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Re: January transfers

Post by Cabanas Blue » Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:50 pm

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Sat Jan 04, 2025 2:57 pm
Someone saying that as well as Axel Wolfie and Burgess are out of contract in the summer surely we won't let all three to for nothing.
According to transfer market Town have a one year option on those three players.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Cabanas Blue » Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:59 pm

hallamblue wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:24 pm
Cabanas Blue wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 4:20 pm
Philogene is not in the Aston Villa squad today.
Wouldn't surprise me if we go after him. A loan deal is OK though isn't it.
Yes that would be our two with Phillips, so we would need to buy a striker or a loan from abroad.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Charnwood » Sat Jan 04, 2025 11:52 pm

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I think we will offer Axel a new contract, but maybe not the other two.
I hope you’re right with Axel Liz. I’ve been 100% with him since the day he arrived. Great signing by McKenna.

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Re: January transfers

Post by hallamblue » Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:36 am

With Axel and now Godfrey we potentially have teo excellent players who can cover right back and right CB . I know Axel didn't cover himself in glory at CB when he first come into the side, but he'd not played any football for about a year, so was very very ring rusty. He used to play CB at Utd, I can't see why he can't play there again if O'Shea is out. But those 3 players would be my first choice for those two positions.

Johnson, H Clarke and Woolfenden have fallen back in the pecking order now, I feel.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Ricco » Sun Jan 05, 2025 8:14 pm

Its bizarre he hasn't had a contract sown up, it's not really our style of recent years. He's a quality player and only just 27, he would be a big loss if allowed to go for nowt.
To be honest, it slightly suggests to me that he's keeping his options open or unable to come to an agreement.

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Re: January transfers

Post by hallamblue » Sun Jan 05, 2025 9:15 pm

Ricco, don't know if you've seen McKenna's post match interviews today but im one of them he talks about our injuries re Omari, Hirst and Axel, and , I dont know, I got a feeling of frustration from him re Axel injury situation..... see what you think


https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-new ... ry-godfrey


Ps when say " he's keeping his options open" do you mean Axel or McKenna? I wouldn't have thought the player has a very strong bargaining position right now....

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Re: January transfers

Post by Ricco » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:52 am

hallamblue wrote:
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Ps when say " he's keeping his options open" do you mean Axel or McKenna? I wouldn't have thought the player has a very strong bargaining position right now....
I meant Axel, I've always had the feeling that he has real pedigree and would attract attention if he proved his form and fitness for us. However I guess that feeling was created when he arrived at us when we were a new Championship side and I haven't questioned it since.

In hindsight you're right, he's still failing to prove he can put in 35+ games a season and be reliable, even if it is from non-football or non-recurring injuries. It's amazing how little football he has played in his career. Plucked at random... Chaplin, while younger has played 356 professional league games to Tuanzebe's 91...

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Re: January transfers

Post by hallamblue » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:10 pm

It’s amazing isn’t it how some players just get injuries, and despite their obvious class, end up playing so few games. We’ve had a few here over the decades haven’t we!

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Re: January transfers

Post by Ricco » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:55 pm

hallamblue wrote:
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It’s amazing isn’t it how some players just get injuries, and despite their obvious class, end up playing so few games. We’ve had a few here over the decades haven’t we!
Yeah we have, I'm sure many clubs have their 'could have been' players.

Dyer was a player often criticised for being injured, but he played more first team games before he turned 21 than Tuanzebe has at 27! The funny thing is... you expect quick lightweight players like Dyer to break down occasionally, they have chicken legs and elastic band hammies. Tuanzebe is built very well though, if you had to pick a player that looks strong enough to deal with the gruelling nature of the career, he'd be one of the first you'd choose.

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Re: January transfers

Post by hallamblue » Mon Jan 06, 2025 4:51 pm

Dyer was actually the first player that came to my mind too.

I think the demands of the game have changed so much over the decades. The thing I've noticed about the PL this season now we're in it and I can see us compete in it up close and personal, is the physical attributes of the established PL players.

They all possess strength, speed, endurance, flexibility, agility, and power. Our players struggle to match this frankly. In fact, the one player we have on our books that possess all these attributes is Delap. The rest have some of the attributes, but not all.

I've lost count of the number of times a Town player is bounced off the ball in challenges like they are snowflakes.


I think if you put our 1981/2 side in the PL now, despite their undoubtedly skills, I dont think many would cope with the physical demands and pace of the game.

Has the game " progessed" ? I'm not so sure.

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Re: January transfers

Post by ashfordblue » Mon Jan 06, 2025 7:31 pm

And so have the pre-match and Training warm-ups you don't do warm-ups in the cold, an hour or two before the kickoff training session every member of the squad should be in a large hot communal bath where you can stretch the hamstrings, and thighs, and calves, and Achilles also stretch and rotate the back. I am sure if KM carried out these main hot bath exercises we would have fewer injuries to worry about and this includes all players currently on the injury list, I must admit these were the things we carried out prior to matches and training twice a week and we never had hamstrings pulls thigh strains bad backs etc, the only problem I had was landing very awkwardly after going up for a ball landed heavily and done both Achilles's tendons I was out for around 6 weeks with specialist treatment on crutches for 4 weeks but other than that no problems
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Re: January transfers

Post by marko69 » Mon Jan 06, 2025 7:51 pm

Like to be a fly on the wall when the messiah introduces the news, Ash.

“Ok guys listen up. Before training from now on, we’ll be using hot water to warm ourselves up to cut down on the soft tissue injuries and hammies etc.”

“Sounds good, boss. Just do some stretches in the shower before getting kitted up?”

“No. We’re all going to have a nice hot, communal bath together! Last one in is a monkeys Uncle!”

Morsy: “You bloody serious!”

Burns (while whipping Morsy with towel) “Of course he is, hahahaha, lets go! Sounds like fun!”

Mashton walks in: “Kieron. Can i have a f**king word please.”

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Re: January transfers

Post by shabba » Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:51 pm

ashfordblue wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 7:31 pm
And so have the pre-match and Training warm-ups you don't do warm-ups in the cold, an hour or two before the kickoff training session every member of the squad should be in a large hot communal bath where you can stretch the hamstrings, and thighs, and calves, and Achilles also stretch and rotate the back. I am sure if KM carried out these main hot bath exercises we would have fewer injuries to worry about and this includes all players currently on the injury list, I must admit these were the things we carried before matches and training twice a week and we never had hamstrings pulls thigh strains bad backs etc, the only problem I had was landing very awkwardly after going up for a ball which I was out for around 6 weeks with specialist treatment on crutches for 4 weeks but other than that no problems
Given how advanced sports science is now Im sure they are on top of things at this elite level. Not sure when you played and at what level, but I guess things have moved on both in terms of how much strain the players go through but also the recovery.
Also didn't hamstring injuries be a long period out back in the 90s, I'm sure when I was watching footie back then it was a nasty injury, now players seem to be back fairly fast from them?

They just need to get a giant roll of cotton-wool and wrap it around Delap after every game! The man is KEY.

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Re: January transfers

Post by marko69 » Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:02 pm

A buddy managed to catch the entire Fulham game......, he says, "Liam Delap is Duncan Ferguson minus the violence!"

Fairly decent assessment.

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Re: January transfers

Post by hallamblue » Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:05 pm

Not so sure it's without the violence. Did you see him from the kick off. Fulham player tried to block Delaps closing down, run forward, and Delap just flattened him :lol:

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Re: January transfers

Post by marko69 » Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:08 pm

hallamblue wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:05 pm
Not so sure it's without the violence. Did you see him from the kick off. Fulham player tried to block Delaps closing down, run forward, and Delap just flattened him :lol:
:lol:

There is of course Liam Delap violence and Duncan Ferguson violence. Think they're several postcodes apart though!

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Re: January transfers

Post by hallamblue » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:23 pm

Yer, the Glasgow kiss, and all that :lol: :lol:

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Re: January transfers

Post by Bluemike » Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:19 am

Rumours we are after Haji Wright from Coventry.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Cabanas Blue » Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:37 am

Injured at the moment and not the KMc type of forward IMO.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Bluemike » Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:10 am

I agree, seen 2 articles though

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Re: January transfers

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Re: January transfers

Post by Cabanas Blue » Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:34 pm

That's not good we don't want our rivals signing good players and I see Palace are upping their bid for Doak.😩

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Re: January transfers

Post by Bluemike » Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:11 pm

I'm not disappointed, I said the other day I hope he goes to Everton

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Re: January transfers

Post by Ricco » Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:19 pm

Even with injuries to Ogbene, Hutchinson and Chaplin, we still have Clarke and Broadhead available on the left and Szmodics and Burns on the right (unless I'm forgetting anyone). So it's not panic stations, but it may force us to drop the 10, which might be no bad thing.

I guess what I'm saying is we need to recruit correctly and not recruit in a panic. Philogene hasn't proved anything at Villa this season and another personnel change is another player we need to get up to speed and integrate, plus they could be a danger to our finances.

I try and avoid transfer threads like the plague, but without reading what anyone else has discussed, that would be my thoughts.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Dubai Blue » Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:47 pm

Well tbh Philogene hasn't had the chance to prove anything really. Villa brought him back because they thought he was too cheap. So now they are going to get their payoff on that decision.

IMO Burns & Clarke don't quite cut it in the Prem and given that we are in with a real chance of staying up I would like for us to bring in improvements on what we have. Just as others around us will be doing. Staying as we are is not really an option IMO.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Shed on tour » Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:51 pm

Not at all worried if Philogene ends up at Everton. As for Doak, I will be very surprised if he comes here and even though it is being said that potentially he has a very bright future I’m not sure if another untested youngster at Premier League level is what we require in this window.
As Ricco has already said we have also got to be careful with our finances in case we end up going down.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Cabanas Blue » Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:22 pm

I think if Philogene had not chosen Villa over Town we might have different thoughts about him, I've watched him a couple of times and I was impressed, he was injured earlier but has still made 11 appearances mostly from the bench I would imagine, he is certainly a better player than Jack Clarke and is Doak any better at the moment.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Ricco » Tue Jan 07, 2025 3:15 pm

Clarke and Philogene had very similar success last season, Clarke probably edged it as he was in a less able team. Philogene has almost had similar opportunities to Clarke this term too and has failed to contribute in a stronger side, whereas at least Clarke has a couple of assists to his name and has looked increasingly dangerous in recent weeks.

I'm not saying Philogene isn't a good player at this level or anything like that, I'm just saying don't be so sure he would be an upgrade and a guaranteed success with immediate contribution. I know little of Doak, but at least he is getting regular game time and should be sharp.

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Re: January transfers

Post by hallamblue » Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:12 pm

Janoi about to reignite his career. Good luck

https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-new ... post570254

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Re: January transfers

Post by hallamblue » Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:17 pm

Looks like we're shifting players out..... seeing on twtd forum H Clarke potentially on his way to Sheffield. Not sure which club though, suspect Weds.

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