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Re: January transfers

Post by ITFC2024 » Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:57 pm

How many loan spots do we still qualify for? I’m being lazy sorry. 8)

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Re: January transfers

Post by hallamblue » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:02 pm

One more I think. The Godfrey one doesn’t count towards our quota of two (?), because he’s from overseas.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Shed on tour » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:18 pm

hallamblue wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:25 pm
Philogene update

https://x.com/sportspeteo/status/187710 ... 6&t=TNjlBJ
Seems a lot of money for him imo. Obviously KM really wanted him but just hope Villa haven’t done us over on this one.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Cabanas Blue » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:27 pm

https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-new ... logene-fee

Jaden Philogene to Ipswich Town, here we go! Despite important bid from Everton, #ITFC agree deal with Aston Villa for £21m with add-ons fee.

Understand Philogene is on his way to Ipswich right now. Medical on Thursday morning.

Direct call with McKenna was crucial. 📲
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Re: January transfers

Post by Cabanas Blue » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:37 pm

Leicester points deduction announcement from Monday January 13th earliest 21:23 - Jan 8 with 1158 views MaySixth

according to The Athletic

in breach of PSR rules by £12m over a three year period

FA and Prem very annoyed with Leicester's successful exploitation of the jurisdiction loophole last time. Will come down hard on them.


Hopefully they will get 6 points.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Charnwood » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:43 pm

Wow what a keeper Spurs have signed for £12.5m. Antonin Kinsky, only 21 yrs old, did anyone else see his debut performance tonight against Liverpool ? How much did we pay for Muric ?

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Re: January transfers

Post by Cabanas Blue » Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:57 pm

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Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:43 pm
Wow what a keeper Spurs have signed for £12.5m. Antonin Kinsky, only 21 yrs old, did anyone else see his debut performance tonight against Liverpool ? How much did we pay for Muric ?
Yes very impressive and only been there three days.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Mariner67 » Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:16 am

How much can we now spend without getting into trouble, 21 million for philogene ,if it happens & the 100 million we spent in the summer,have we not gone over the limit? Can't see us getting 20 million for wolfy & Harry Clarke.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Cabanas Blue » Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:30 am

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Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:16 am
How much can we now spend without getting into trouble, 21 million for philogene ,if it happens & the 100 million we spent in the summer,have we not gone over the limit? Can't see us getting 20 million for wolfy & Harry Clarke.
This is taken from TWTD hopefully that's correct.

They’re big numbers but we’re well funded, and cash isn’t a limiting factor, it’s just FFP. We’ll be ensuring a very high degree of governance over that though, and given all of these signings are on 4+ year deals we’re ‘only’ talking £40m of amortisation per year on £160m of signings on that basis. We’re likely to turnover £150m+ this year so I would think the headroom is healthy. Would almost certainly mean 2 or 3 big tickets move on in the summer if we go down despite parachute payments, but we would still be left with a really strong championship squad. 1 year of amortisation could probably be offset with a Liam Delap sale, where we’ll likely see a significant profit on disposal should we chose to cash in. The approach of signing young, British players significantly derisks it too, I don’t see us having an issue moving on any of these acquisitions should we choose to. They’ll have suitors even if we need to take a slight haircut on 1 or 2.


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Re: January transfers

Post by Dubai Blue » Thu Jan 09, 2025 3:51 am

Nice dealings by Villa. THey obviously thought Philogene was too cheap at 18m and had their 30% built it.

They were right and now they are going to bag an additional 7 or 8 mill plus unknown add-ons.

Good business by them.

Have a feeling Philogene is going to where he wants to be too.

Great for us too.
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Re: January transfers

Post by Bluemike » Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:33 am

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Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:43 pm
Wow what a keeper Spurs have signed for £12.5m. Antonin Kinsky, only 21 yrs old, did anyone else see his debut performance tonight against Liverpool ? How much did we pay for Muric ?
We've really been done over with Muric, there's no getting away from it, and we can't say we weren't warned.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Bluemike » Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:35 am

I hope the boy Philogene does want to be here cus things don't always sit well with me but more than happy to give the lad our full support. It does seem a fair whack of money but a lot of us felt that about Delap and Hutchinson too so maybe it's what you have to pay these days. I think this signing will see Wes Burns contribution greatly reduced.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Dubai Blue » Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:24 am

Bluemike wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:35 am
I think this signing will see Wes Burns contribution greatly reduced.
I hope so, Wes hasn't really stepped up from Champ level for me. Has looked a bit predictable when I've seen him.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Charnwood » Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:41 am

I think it’s a brilliant signing although the size of the fee worries me a little with the FFP rules but hopefully we’re on top of that. I think the player always wanted to come to us but was misled by his Agent or tied by his loan contract to return to Villa if they exercised their options which they did. We also have to remember it was his boyhood club and the opportunity of Champions League football so even if he decided to go there I think it would be quite churlish to hold it against him.
He and Delap linked brilliantly together at Hull last season which will hopefully be restored.

Could Jack Clarke return to Sunderland, I think it could be a consideration or his game time is likely to be even less.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Shed on tour » Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:41 am

One thing is for sure, whatever our opinions are on certain signings McKenna has certainly received full backing from the ownership in terms of players he would like to recruit since arriving at the club.

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Re: January transfers

Post by The Odious Mr Rossi » Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:43 am

Bluemike wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:35 am
I hope the boy Philogene does want to be here cus things don't always sit well with me but more than happy to give the lad our full support. It does seem a fair whack of money but a lot of us felt that about Delap and Hutchinson too so maybe it's what you have to pay these days. I think this signing will see Wes Burns contribution greatly reduced.
so do I :D :D

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Re: January transfers

Post by hallamblue » Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:47 am

It wouldnt surprise me to see a good proportion of the double winning side eventually leave us over the next two windows....

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Re: January transfers

Post by shabba » Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:57 am

Interesting, 20m is alot and worries me it leaves the pot very low for any sort of striker.

We badly need cover for Delap, maybe they have a loan in mind or such.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Bluemike » Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:03 am

Me too Shabba, I said the other day that after the last couple of games I feel we have a chance but if we don't sign another striker we will go down.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Shed on tour » Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:12 am

I would think we are certainly looking at the loan market for a striker now. As has already been said we need another striker as a backup for Delap as I really don’t think we can rely on Hirst due to his injury record. If we don’t get anybody in for that role then I just can’t see us staying up as Delap will probably miss some game time from now to the end of the season whether it be due to injury or suspension.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Bluemike » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:17 am

Even if Hirst was to stay fit which is debatable we still need another top striker, its simply not fair on Al-Hamadi to expect him to pull up trees at this level, we signed the poor bugger from L2, he's made a bigger jump than anyone and was due to go on loan in the summer.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Mariner67 » Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:21 pm

Cabanas Blue wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:30 am
Mariner67 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:16 am
How much can we now spend without getting into trouble, 21 million for philogene ,if it happens & the 100 million we spent in the summer,have we not gone over the limit? Can't see us getting 20 million for wolfy & Harry Clarke.
This is taken from TWTD hopefully that's correct.

They’re big numbers but we’re well funded, and cash isn’t a limiting factor, it’s just FFP. We’ll be ensuring a very high degree of governance over that though, and given all of these signings are on 4+ year deals we’re ‘only’ talking £40m of amortisation per year on £160m of signings on that basis. We’re likely to turnover £150m+ this year so I would think the headroom is healthy. Would almost certainly mean 2 or 3 big tickets move on in the summer if we go down despite parachute payments, but we would still be left with a really strong championship squad. 1 year of amortisation could probably be offset with a Liam Delap sale, where we’ll likely see a significant profit on disposal should we chose to cash in. The approach of signing young, British players significantly derisks it too, I don’t see us having an issue moving on any of these acquisitions should we choose to. They’ll have suitors even if we need to take a slight haircut on 1 or 2.


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Thanks for that information 👍 expect we will be doing some offloading soon.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Bluemike » Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:52 pm

Anyone seen rumours we've started preliminary talks with striker Iheanacho?

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Re: January transfers

Post by ITFC2024 » Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:30 pm

Bluemike wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:52 pm
Anyone seen rumours we've started preliminary talks with striker Iheanacho?
https://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_n ... ?nid=54266

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Re: January transfers

Post by Dubai Blue » Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:20 am

That would be awesome!

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Re: January transfers

Post by Bluemike » Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:32 am

Imagine him, Igor Jesus and Delap as our Three strikers lol, not gonna happen I know but we can but dream.

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Re: January transfers

Post by hallamblue » Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:32 am

Bluemike wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:52 pm
Anyone seen rumours we've started preliminary talks with striker Iheanacho?
Yes it was posted on twtd a few days ago……. I know nothing about the player tbh. Thing is with Town and these owners , anything is now possible.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Dubai Blue » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:11 am

Think our manager is a magnet also.

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Re: January transfers

Post by Bluemike » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:23 am

hallamblue wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2025 10:32 am
Bluemike wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:52 pm
Anyone seen rumours we've started preliminary talks with striker Iheanacho?
Yes it was posted on twtd a few days ago……. I know nothing about the player tbh. Thing is with Town and these owners , anything is now possible.
You may not have clicked but you'll definitely be aware of Iheanacho Iiz.

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