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We will come straight back up?

Post by mendipblue » Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:44 am

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/arti ... 78m0506xdo Not my words but Mick Mills. Do you agree or not 🤔

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Re: We will come straight back up?

Post by Bluemike » Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:35 am

Without knowing the squad/manager etc it's hard to say but what I will say is we won't be very far away in my opinion.

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Re: We will come straight back up?

Post by hallamblue » Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:35 pm

I dont think its going to be as easy as some may think . Leeds have found this out and Id say their original squad when we first played them in the CC was a lot stronger than our current squad. But next season the pressure will be on the manager and the squad to deliver. Not easy .

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Re: We will come straight back up?

Post by The Odious Mr Rossi » Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:47 pm

Absolutely ridiculous statement - we don't know who will be on the playing staff, who will be managing, etc etc.

Mick Mills was a legend for us as a player, but was a failure as a manager and is a crap pundit who lets his enthusiasm and bias cloud his judgement.

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Re: We will come straight back up?

Post by mendipblue » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:08 pm

Bluemike wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:35 am
Without knowing the squad/manager etc it's hard to say but what I will say is we won't be very far away in my opinion.
Fair point. My theory is the way we beat Coventry who are on fire in the championship with are so called 2nd string. Without Delap, Hutchinson, Davis who are being touted to leave, we coped very well 👏

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Re: We will come straight back up?

Post by Mariner67 » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:53 pm

mendipblue wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:08 pm
Bluemike wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:35 am
Without knowing the squad/manager etc it's hard to say but what I will say is we won't be very far away in my opinion.
Fair point. My theory is the way we beat Coventry who are on fire in the championship with are so called 2nd string. Without Delap, Hutchinson, Davis who are being touted to leave, we coped very well 👏
The trouble is we've lost our winning mojo ,the players who took us up have either been loaned out or not playing enough.Yes did well against Coventry, that's because lots of changes were made,plus he didn't stick to the losing formula, saying that we will do well In the championship.

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Re: We will come straight back up?

Post by valleyroad » Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:27 pm

mendipblue wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:08 pm
Bluemike wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:35 am
Without knowing the squad/manager etc it's hard to say but what I will say is we won't be very far away in my opinion.
Fair point. My theory is the way we beat Coventry who are on fire in the championship with are so called 2nd string. Without Delap, Hutchinson, Davis who are being touted to leave, we coped very well 👏
I'd be surprised if Davis or Hutchinson get a PL club. So unless abroad only option is Championship club, so why not Ipswich ?

For me if the attitude and focus is there then there is no reason at all why Town won't be in the running.
I'd imagine most of the squad would be around for next season and many have been bought with next season in mind IMO

For me Delap, Cajuste and Phillips will definitely leave

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Re: We will come straight back up?

Post by The Odious Mr Rossi » Tue Mar 18, 2025 5:56 pm

valleyroad wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:27 pm
I'd be surprised if Davis or Hutchinson get a PL club. So unless abroad only option is Championship club, so why not Ipswich ?

For me if the attitude and focus is there then there is no reason at all why Town won't be in the running.
I'd imagine most of the squad would be around for next season and many have been bought with next season in mind IMO

For me Delap, Cajuste and Phillips will definitely leave
Well, Phillips and Cajuste are loanees, so you get absolutely no kudo for proclaiming they will leave, it's stating the bleeding obvious.
Although I believe that if we get relegated we have an option to buy Cajuste - he gave up the chance of International football this month to concentrate on helping Ipswich, he clearly likes it here and may well be open to giving next season a shot to try to get back to the PL.
I thought previously that Delap would definitely go - I'm not so sure now, other clubs might want him but I'm not sure they would be prepared to pay for him what we would be asking.
Phillips - well he is quoted in the press as pushing for a return to Leeds next season. No worry there, but he's obviously not committed to us so leave the b*stard out for the rest of the season.

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Re: We will come straight back up?

Post by Bluemike » Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:21 pm

Exactly my thoughts on Phillips

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Re: We will come straight back up?

Post by arana peligrosa » Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:43 pm

Believe whoever's in charge and players available is kind of immaterial in that there won't be no instant return. What the team did last year was incredible and can't be matched. Once in a lifetime for some. To race away like we did and almost win the league was almost realms of fantasy and won't be repeated any time soon.

Mills was a great club servant no doubt but perhaps his feelings and hope for the team override what's feasibly achievable. A top six finish is maybe what you can shoot for but auto promotion once again is just too fanciful. The success and achievement of before will just be this time out of reach, can't or won't be replicated et cetera.

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Re: We will come straight back up?

Post by marko69 » Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:41 pm

arana peligrosa wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:43 pm
Believe whoever's in charge and players available is kind of immaterial in that there won't be no instant return. What the team did last year was incredible and can't be matched. Once in a lifetime for some. To race away like we did and almost win the league was almost realms of fantasy and won't be repeated any time soon.
If you were a Portman Road ST holder, Saint….. got to hope the seat next to you is empty! :lol:

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Re: We will come straight back up?

Post by marko69 » Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:43 pm

Agree with most; no way of knowing. Praying its not a string of Paul Jewells & Paul Cooks though if He Who Walks on Water leaves.

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Post by valleyroad » Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:49 pm

marko69 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:43 pm
Agree with most; no way of knowing. Praying its not a string of Paul Jewells & Paul Cooks though if He Who Walks on Water leaves.
Paul Jewell kept Wigan and Bradford in the Premiership. Think he knows a think or two but just didn't happen at PR
Cook has done a very good job at all his clubs too bar Ipswich.
Bit like Aberdeen, Ipswich for a long time was a graveyard for football managers

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Re: We will come straight back up?

Post by marko69 » Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:33 pm

Yes, apparently John Duncan wanted to come back and work with Paul Jewell.
But Mevans wasn’t “ready to rumble” with PJ & Duncan.

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Re: We will come straight back up?

Post by ITFC2024 » Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:34 pm

I don’t think we’ll bounce right back, but I do think we’ll be promoted eventually sooner rather than later, but not too soon. I just hope if/when we are promoted again, we’ll be ready.

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Re: We will come straight back up?

Post by Blue Wilf » Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:04 am

It will be hard, for sure, but I think (hope) that the ambition of Gamechanger will give us the edge as they were very happy to financially support the manager in each window - even in the Prem. The issue has been that no 'established' PL players really want to come to a newly promoted team so our recruitment has been poor from a PL quality perspective. Those players are however, proven quality at Championship level and having had a taste of the Prem, will likely want more so be motivated as such. Some will leave (ie probably Delap and maybe a couple of others) but fundamentally, we will have the basis of a very sound squad at the new level.

Remember - this is a long term project for GC with stands over car parks, training facilities, new development behind the Sir Alf stand and L1 academy etc all under way. The future remains bright but we need to adapt our approach to get to where we want to be and that will be interesting to see.

I for one can't wait for a Championship return now that our PL adventure is essentially over. A good summer, none of the associated bus parade nonsense to raise peoples expectations (only for them to be scuppered), games Saturday at 3pm against big, well supported teams, proper stadiums, no ball aching VAR, no circus, competing at the top (or nearbit - hopefully), night games under the lights midweek, less scramble for tickets, fans that don't watch their teams go 3 goals up and then leave early to get home (ie man city, arsenal, man utd, spurs etc etc) and enjoying my football again. I said during last season that I felt this would be the case and was once again pilloried by many on this site for that view and my apparent lack of ambition - well ambition is all very well but sometimes in life, being content (for a season or two), is preferable to ambition. I can't bloody wait!

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Re: We will come straight back up?

Post by marko69 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:37 am

Blue Wilf wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:04 am
Remember - this is a long term project for GC with stands over car parks, training facilities, new development behind the Sir Alf stand and L1 academy etc all under way. The future remains bright but we need to adapt our approach to get to where we want to be and that will be interesting to see.
And thats been the confusion the entire season with “The process” being voiced over Kieron McKennas decisions. 🤷‍♂️
The process always was “the long term project”…… ie, who the club can afford at various moments in time.
Trust the process, Wilf. 👍👌

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Re: We will come straight back up?

Post by Blue Wilf » Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:16 am

marko69 wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:37 am
Blue Wilf wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:04 am
Remember - this is a long term project for GC with stands over car parks, training facilities, new development behind the Sir Alf stand and L1 academy etc all under way. The future remains bright but we need to adapt our approach to get to where we want to be and that will be interesting to see.
And thats been the confusion the entire season with “The process” being voiced over Kieron McKennas decisions. 🤷‍♂️
The process always was “the long term project”…… ie, who the club can afford at various moments in time.
Trust the process, Wilf. 👍👌
You will note however, Marko that my reference to 'the process' talks only of infrastructure projects. You are intent on including the playing side as part of that process - I am not. One is a long term set of objectives that are run by businessmen (and is apparently in good health), the other is a volatile, performance, form, injury and tactically led set of objectives that is a totally different ball game and one that I think we are failing, so I do not agree with your observation in that regard.

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Re: We will come straight back up?

Post by Mauswara » Thu Mar 20, 2025 6:55 am

"The problem we have had against the level of teams that we are playing against in the Premier League is actually beating them, winning the game, getting the points on the board"

above my philosophical pay-grade Mick.

on point - I think we'd come back up but I dunno that now is the time to be focusing on that eventuality

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Re: We will come straight back up?

Post by marko69 » Fri Mar 21, 2025 8:22 am

Blue Wilf wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:16 am
You are intent on including the playing side as part of that process - I am not.
Na man, I’m not. Great that we are on the same page with regards to Mashtons process. 👍👌

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