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Arrise Sir Boris

Post by goldandblack » Thu Mar 31, 2022 7:50 pm

Since Boris became Prime Minister in May 2019. only 3 yrs now.

We achieved Brexit as promised after everyone with (invested interest) said he couldn't or Wouldn't
See us through a World Pandemic the likes not seen before in centuries.
Being stabbed in the back by colleagues, and an ITV News Reader and his side kick puppet
Was in hospital seriously ill with the dreaded covid.
Now in the middle of a possible WW3,
In between got married,
Had 2 children,
Instead of the usual opposition calling for his head over a few beers in the middle of having to work during all that time,
Personally I would build him a statue and put it next to Sir Winston,
To me our best prime minister since Winston, IMO. and I've seen them all since,

A good topic to discuss.

What/Who would have done a better job,

Theresa (when Europe says jump), May
A capitalist labour leader, with a title. How’s that work, :astroll:
Ed Davey,, :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Arrise Sir Boris

Post by Charnwood » Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:06 pm

Whilst I have no intention of getting involved in a political debate on a footie forum for what it’s worth I think Boris Johnson is the poorest/worst Conservative PM in my lifetime and with luck his period in office will never extend beyond one term. ☹️

Hopefully that’s my contribution to this thread over.

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Re: Arrise Sir Boris

Post by goldandblack » Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:54 pm

Charnwood wrote:
Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:06 pm
Whilst I have no intention of getting involved in a political debate on a footie forum for what it’s worth I think Boris Johnson is the poorest/worst Conservative PM in my lifetime and with luck his period in office will never extend beyond one term. ☹️

Hopefully that’s my contribution to this thread over.
Although wrong in my eyes that's your opinion Andy, Boris has no hiding agendas like most tory MPs, name a tory between Winston and Boris who hasn't used the job as PM to future employment for them and their families in the Common market. or major companies, even the socialist's have joined that club since Thatcher's thugs killed off the unions,
No harm in discussing things in General Chat, that's why its called that,

Another point with you living in Spain it was never in your interest in leaving the EU was their, so perhaps it just self preservation.

I've always been a socialist but hadnt voted since liar Blair until Boris, once the back stabbers kick him out i wont be voting again,

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Re: Arrise Sir Boris

Post by Charnwood » Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:12 am

I assumed when I went to bed I’d been caught on an early April Fool and that may well be the case Woolfie.

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Post by marko69 » Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:01 am

Sean Lock (RIP) once said Boris Johnson isnt a real person. Its a suit with a zip up the back and each day a different person steps inside the suit and is “Boris for the day”………. :lol:

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Post by Charnwood » Fri Apr 01, 2022 9:28 am

I’ve been a Conservative Voter all my life Woolfie but as I’ve grown older my values have definitely become more Socialist, which is why I’m no fan of BJ’s right wing Conservative/Nationalist Party. Unfortunately Boris has no values and has even made it difficult for displaced Ukrainians to seek refuge in Britain which makes a nonsense of his efforts to portray himself as a supporter of Ukraine and a Global Leader against Putins War. As the Former Finnish PM said, “only in Britains Post Brexit La La Land can BJ possibly be seen as a Global Leader”, sadly the rest of the world see him very differently.

Talking of Boris’s values, he was of course a staunch Remainer until he saw an opportunity to switch sides sides solely to fulfil his personal ambition and for personal gain. I shan’t attempt to list all his c*ck ups that have screwed the public purse and cost peoples lives because you and others who’ve been taken in by his rhetoric wouldn’t like or believe it.

As for me and Brexit Woolfie, yes I was a remainer, not just for personal reasons but for my children and grandchildren to ensure they had the same opportunities as my generation. Unfortunately this isn’t to be but I’m sure they’ll get over it especially now they’re settled in the US, I’m over it too and life moves on. Pre Brexit I had no intention of living in Spain but Brexit forced my hand as I no longer wanted to be part of BJ’s post Brexit racist Britain. Until Brexit my intention was to live and pay taxes in the UK for the rest of my life and enjoy my holiday home in Spain as and when I wanted some sunshine or simply take a break, but Brexit made that difficult and choices had to be made. Britain’s loss is Spain’s gain given I pay far more in taxes than I take out in benefits both financial and hidden. My only loss as a result of Brexit is a weaker pound which costs me on exchange rates, but that’s more than covered by much lower living costs and we haven’t even mentioned quality of life and climate.

I don’t know what the future holds for British politics, but for sure I’m happy to be away from it.

I’m still hoping that at 12 Noon you’ll tell me this really was an early April Fool and I was the fool that fell for it. 🙏🙏🙏

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Re: Arrise Sir Boris

Post by Frosty » Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:24 am

I’ve said this before to some English friends of mine.

I think you will find that brexit makes the uk more efficient, more nimble and less constrained by Europe.

When the UK threw NZ under the bus in 1973 by joining the EEC it made this country after a few years of turmoil and poor governance a far more productive and efficient country and we are in the middle of f**king nowhere down here.

Ps, I am semi joking about 1973, you had little choice but to join the EEC, but it killed our trading relationship due to agricultural tariffs and protectionism driven by primarily the French.

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Re: Arrise Sir Boris

Post by marko69 » Fri Apr 01, 2022 12:40 pm

Protectionism ?

Jaysus fkn H…….. there were “isms” in 1973 as well? Fuuuuuuuck 🤦‍♂️

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Re: Arrise Sir Boris

Post by goldandblack » Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:42 pm

Frosty wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:24 am
I’ve said this before to some English friends of mine.

I think you will find that brexit makes the uk more efficient, more nimble and less constrained by Europe.

When the UK threw NZ under the bus in 1973 by joining the EEC it made this country after a few years of turmoil and poor governance a far more productive and efficient country and we are in the middle of f**king nowhere down here.

Ps, I am semi joking about 1973, you had little choice but to join the EEC, but it killed our trading relationship due to agricultural tariffs and protectionism driven by primarily the French.
Agree, we did the dirty on NZ and all our commonwealth friends, We did have a choice but they fixed that vote, personally i have never met anyone who actually voted to go into the common market,
Brussels is as i said just a cash cow for failed politicians, and their families. Why should us and Germany pay to bail out the likes of France, Italy, Spain, Belgium etc etc, year after year,

Well Done Boris getting us out of that and lets fill the Channel Tunnel while we are at it, perhaps with William Hague's,Liar Blair's and Neil Kinnocks gold, or perhaps tears now,,
where do you want your statue Mr Johnson,

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Re: Arrise Sir Boris

Post by goldandblack » Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:38 pm

marko69 wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 12:40 pm
Protectionism ?

Jaysus fkn H…….. there were “isms” in 1973 as well? Fuuuuuuuck 🤦‍♂️
I remember the Ted Heathism and the 3 day weekism. he needed Protectionism from the TUC, and Len Murray ism

and the king of rock Noddy and Sladeism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu_ozjAu_vM

but on the good side we had Blondieism :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0skjm-uJSs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGU_4-5RaxU

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Re: Arrise Sir Boris

Post by Andym » Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:13 am

In my Eyes he is the worst prime minister ever. No morals. No policies. A proven liar, a populist who does whatever he thinks will get him elected. I’m a socialist, although the EU has many faults we should have remained and tried to reform it. I hated Thatcher and still do but at least she had a vision - in my opinion misguided and wrong but she acted on her beliefs. Johnson has no political beliefs and his only motivation is self promotion. If it wasn’t for our disgusting and disgraceful right wing press, all owned by non-doms, we wouldn’t have had him as PM and wet wouldn’t have had Brexit. Their scaremongering over immigrants taking out jobs and living on benefits was awful.

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Re: Arrise Sir Boris

Post by goldandblack » Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:59 pm

Andym wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:13 am
In my Eyes he is the worst prime minister ever. No morals. No policies. A proven liar, a populist who does whatever he thinks will get him elected. I’m a socialist, although the EU has many faults we should have remained and tried to reform it. I hated Thatcher and still do but at least she had a vision - in my opinion misguided and wrong but she acted on her beliefs. Johnson has no political beliefs and his only motivation is self promotion. If it wasn’t for our disgusting and disgraceful right wing press, all owned by non-doms, we wouldn’t have had him as PM and wet wouldn’t have had Brexit. Their scaremongering over immigrants taking out jobs and living on benefits was awful.
All you just wrote is your opinion and welcome, although different to mine,,
But then you contradicted the whole post with the Thatcher comments.
You say “I’m a socialist” then although you hate Thatcher you the go on to say she had a vision,
Although it shows the South has a different look on Thatcher,

some of her visions,
1..To destroy your socialist jobs and the TUC, in the Steel and Coal mining. Then buying in coal and Gas from Russia.and steel from China.
Explain that one to the hard working Welsh, Midlands and the North workers,

2...To use her time in power to build the Channel Tunnel and the M25. Using her husband’s company to build both,

there now isnt a Socialist party thanks to the Rusty Lady
That is what you call a VISION,
If it wasn't for her Falkland's spectacle she'd have been out years before,
I could go on and on but enough said on the witch.


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Re: Arrise Sir Boris

Post by Andym » Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:03 pm

goldandblack wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:59 pm
Andym wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:13 am
In my Eyes he is the worst prime minister ever. No morals. No policies. A proven liar, a populist who does whatever he thinks will get him elected. I’m a socialist, although the EU has many faults we should have remained and tried to reform it. I hated Thatcher and still do but at least she had a vision - in my opinion misguided and wrong but she acted on her beliefs. Johnson has no political beliefs and his only motivation is self promotion. If it wasn’t for our disgusting and disgraceful right wing press, all owned by non-doms, we wouldn’t have had him as PM and wet wouldn’t have had Brexit. Their scaremongering over immigrants taking out jobs and living on benefits was awful.
All you just wrote is your opinion and welcome, although different to mine,,
But then you contradicted the whole post with the Thatcher comments.
You say “I’m a socialist” then although you hate Thatcher you the go on to say she had a vision,
Although it shows the South has a different look on Thatcher,

some of her visions,
1..To destroy your socialist jobs in the Steel and Coal mining. Then buying in coal and Gas from Russia.
Explain that one to the hard working Welsh, Midlands and the North workers, To destroy your Socialist party and the TUC,

2...To use her time in power to build the Channel Tunnel and the M25. Using her husband’s company to build both,

That is what you call a VISION,
If it wasn't for her Falkland's spectacle she'd have been out years before,
I could go on and on but enough said on the witch.


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Indeed. I hated her vision. I hated everything she did. But I think she believed in what she was doing. Boris doesn’t believe in anything except being popular and self-publicity.

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Re: Arrise Sir Boris

Post by goldandblack » Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:14 pm

Andym wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:03 pm
goldandblack wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:59 pm
Andym wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:13 am
In my Eyes he is the worst prime minister ever. No morals. No policies. A proven liar, a populist who does whatever he thinks will get him elected. I’m a socialist, although the EU has many faults we should have remained and tried to reform it. I hated Thatcher and still do but at least she had a vision - in my opinion misguided and wrong but she acted on her beliefs. Johnson has no political beliefs and his only motivation is self promotion. If it wasn’t for our disgusting and disgraceful right wing press, all owned by non-doms, we wouldn’t have had him as PM and wet wouldn’t have had Brexit. Their scaremongering over immigrants taking out jobs and living on benefits was awful.
All you just wrote is your opinion and welcome, although different to mine,,
But then you contradicted the whole post with the Thatcher comments.
You say “I’m a socialist” then although you hate Thatcher you the go on to say she had a vision,
Although it shows the South has a different look on Thatcher,

some of her visions,
1..To destroy your socialist jobs in the Steel and Coal mining. Then buying in coal and Gas from Russia.
Explain that one to the hard working Welsh, Midlands and the North workers, To destroy your Socialist party and the TUC,

2...To use her time in power to build the Channel Tunnel and the M25. Using her husband’s company to build both,

That is what you call a VISION,
If it wasn't for her Falkland's spectacle she'd have been out years before,
I could go on and on but enough said on the witch.


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Indeed. I hated her vision. I hated everything she did. But I think she believed in what she was doing. Boris doesn’t believe in anything except being popular and self-publicity.
quite right Andy, the only vision she had was wicked and how to get rich quick. she destroyed whole communities of decent people,

But i stick to my opinion of Boris, it was the North that voted for Boris and Brexit, and i think they will vote him in again,
I do look on him a bit different.
No other prime minister has had to deal with what he has,( since Winston,)
He has the guts to change his decisions if needed,
He's had to fight against all those Capalists who make / made fortunes in the EU, that's this countries big problem, not caused by Boris,




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Post by Charnwood » Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:37 pm

goldandblack wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:42 pm
Frosty wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:24 am
I’ve said this before to some English friends of mine.

I think you will find that brexit makes the uk more efficient, more nimble and less constrained by Europe.

When the UK threw NZ under the bus in 1973 by joining the EEC it made this country after a few years of turmoil and poor governance a far more productive and efficient country and we are in the middle of f**king nowhere down here.

Ps, I am semi joking about 1973, you had little choice but to join the EEC, but it killed our trading relationship due to agricultural tariffs and protectionism driven by primarily the French.
Agree, we did the dirty on NZ and all our commonwealth friends, We did have a choice but they fixed that vote, personally i have never met anyone who actually voted to go into the common market,
Brussels is as i said just a cash cow for failed politicians, and their families. Why should us and Germany pay to bail out the likes of France, Italy, Spain, Belgium etc etc, year after year,

Well Done Boris getting us out of that and lets fill the Channel Tunnel while we are at it, perhaps with William Hague's,Liar Blair's and Neil Kinnocks gold, or perhaps tears now,,
where do you want your statue Mr Johnson,
You need to get out and mix more Woolfie, the majority to join the Common Market was almost 9m votes with 64% voting in favour nothing like the close Brexit vote in 2016.

By all means fill the tunnel for me, but what another own goal for Britain that would be with £46bn lost in exports directly linked to the tunnel and another 220,000 jobs gone also directly linked to the tunnel.

You could also wave goodbye to a further £1.7bn income from inbound tourism and a further 45,000 jobs which support it.

If only you could arrange this maybe the Right Wing extremists who would support it could bury BJ somewhere close to the middle to save any further collateral damage.

Sadly the Conservative Party has been destroyed by disillusioned traditional Labour Voters who were brainwashed by the Daily Express and Daily Mail into thinking that Boris’s Britain would bring them equality and a better life which most of us know won’t happen, just another of Boris’s many lies like the £350m every day to improve the NHS. Boris is to honesty what Putin is to peace, I just hope the brainwashed realise this by the time it comes to any future election because until we have a stronger opposition the only way out of this mess is to have either a far from ideal hung parliament or a Conservative Party that moves closer to the Centre with a Statesman like Prime Minister. Some thought, others hoped that Boris might just be this person, but it’s clear to most that he’s just not capable of this.

…. and just to cap it all, for anyone with f*cked up travel arrangements this coming weekend, you can blame Boris for the mess at all the borders we’ve lost control of brought about by a f*cked up furlogh scheme which allowed recipients to take the money and run, and Brexit which drove away thousands of disillusioned Europeans who chose to leave Britain and go home. The rest of the World have their major city airports operating smoothly and they’ve all had Covid to deal with just the same as the UK, the only difference is most have managed Covid better and haven’t had a Brexit. Britain is in a mess, most of it caused by Boris and his closet allies, eg Jacob Reece-Mogg, Dominic Raab, Pritti Patel, Michael Gove, Sajid Javid etc just to name a handful, honestly how many of these would you really trust and I haven’t even mentioned silver spoon Rishi Sunak who anyone can see is the next most likely candidate to self promote himself to leader of the Party.

Bloody hell Woolfie you really do bring the worst out of me, but as you can guess I really hate this PM with a passion and unlike you and Andy M I am a self confessed Tory although I haven’t yet and never will vote Conservative whilst BJ remains the leader.

Rant over.

Ps: I promise I’ll try not to respond anymore ☹️…. Maybe a better topic for discussion would be, who could replace Boris Johnson as the next Prime Minister ?

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Re: Arrise Sir Boris

Post by goldandblack » Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:22 pm

Charnwood wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:37 pm
goldandblack wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:42 pm
Frosty wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:24 am
I’ve said this before to some English friends of mine.

I think you will find that brexit makes the uk more efficient, more nimble and less constrained by Europe.

When the UK threw NZ under the bus in 1973 by joining the EEC it made this country after a few years of turmoil and poor governance a far more productive and efficient country and we are in the middle of f**king nowhere down here.

Ps, I am semi joking about 1973, you had little choice but to join the EEC, but it killed our trading relationship due to agricultural tariffs and protectionism driven by primarily the French.
Agree, we did the dirty on NZ and all our commonwealth friends, We did have a choice but they fixed that vote, personally i have never met anyone who actually voted to go into the common market,
Brussels is as i said just a cash cow for failed politicians, and their families. Why should us and Germany pay to bail out the likes of France, Italy, Spain, Belgium etc etc, year after year,

Well Done Boris getting us out of that and lets fill the Channel Tunnel while we are at it, perhaps with William Hague's,Liar Blair's and Neil Kinnocks gold, or perhaps tears now,,
where do you want your statue Mr Johnson,
You need to get out and mix more Woolfie, the majority to join the Common Market was almost 9m votes with 64% voting in favour nothing like the close Brexit vote in 2016.

By all means fill the tunnel for me, but what another own goal for Britain that would be with £46bn lost in exports directly linked to the tunnel and another 220,000 jobs gone also directly linked to the tunnel.

You could also wave goodbye to a further £1.7bn income from inbound tourism and a further 45,000 jobs which support it.

If only you could arrange this maybe the Right Wing extremists who would support it could bury BJ somewhere close to the middle to save any further collateral damage.

Sadly the Conservative Party has been destroyed by disillusioned traditional Labour Voters who were brainwashed by the Daily Express and Daily Mail into thinking that Boris’s Britain would bring them equality and a better life which most of us know won’t happen, just another of Boris’s many lies like the £350m every day to improve the NHS. Boris is to honesty what Putin is to peace, I just hope the brainwashed realise this by the time it comes to any future election because until we have a stronger opposition the only way out of this mess is to have either a far from ideal hung parliament or a Conservative Party that moves closer to the Centre with a Statesman like Prime Minister. Some thought, others hoped that Boris might just be this person, but it’s clear to most that he’s just not capable of this.

…. and just to cap it all, for anyone with f*cked up travel arrangements this coming weekend, you can blame Boris for the mess at all the borders we’ve lost control of brought about by a f*cked up furlogh scheme which allowed recipients to take the money and run, and Brexit which drove away thousands of disillusioned Europeans who chose to leave Britain and go home. The rest of the World have their major city airports operating smoothly and they’ve all had Covid to deal with just the same as the UK, the only difference is most have managed Covid better and haven’t had a Brexit. Britain is in a mess, most of it caused by Boris and his closet allies, eg Jacob Reece-Mogg, Dominic Raab, Pritti Patel, Michael Gove, Sajid Javid etc just to name a handful, honestly how many of these would you really trust and I haven’t even mentioned silver spoon Rishi Sunak who anyone can see is the next most likely candidate to self promote himself to leader of the Party.

Bloody hell Woolfie you really do bring the worst out of me, but as you can guess I really hate this PM with a passion and unlike you and Andy M I am a self confessed Tory although I haven’t yet and never will vote Conservative whilst BJ remains the leader.

Rant over.

Ps: I promise I’ll try not to respond anymore ☹️…. Maybe a better topic for discussion would be, who could replace Boris Johnson as the next Prime Minister ?
I would love to get out more Andy but at present I can’t, so I find myself on here too much at the moment,
After reading that it’s made my beliefs even stronger, glad you went into so much details.


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Post by Charnwood » Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:43 pm

I never open the “You Tubes” Woolfie so they’re always wasted on me. Like you I’m not getting out much either cos it’s hardly stopped raining here for two weeks so no golf, nobody plays here when it rains. As soon as the sun shines again you won’t see me on here for dust and I certainly won’t be thinking anything about politics which generally bore me shitless.

All said and done I won’t be on here next month much anyway as we head off to the US for four weeks and a few days on Sunday. Just thankful for ifollow so I can at least watch the footie live whilst I’m away.

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Re: Arrise Sir Boris

Post by Andym » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:31 pm

Charnwood wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:37 pm
goldandblack wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:42 pm
Frosty wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:24 am
I’ve said this before to some English friends of mine.

I think you will find that brexit makes the uk more efficient, more nimble and less constrained by Europe.

When the UK threw NZ under the bus in 1973 by joining the EEC it made this country after a few years of turmoil and poor governance a far more productive and efficient country and we are in the middle of f**king nowhere down here.

Ps, I am semi joking about 1973, you had little choice but to join the EEC, but it killed our trading relationship due to agricultural tariffs and protectionism driven by primarily the French.
Agree, we did the dirty on NZ and all our commonwealth friends, We did have a choice but they fixed that vote, personally i have never met anyone who actually voted to go into the common market,
Brussels is as i said just a cash cow for failed politicians, and their families. Why should us and Germany pay to bail out the likes of France, Italy, Spain, Belgium etc etc, year after year,

Well Done Boris getting us out of that and lets fill the Channel Tunnel while we are at it, perhaps with William Hague's,Liar Blair's and Neil Kinnocks gold, or perhaps tears now,,
where do you want your statue Mr Johnson,
You need to get out and mix more Woolfie, the majority to join the Common Market was almost 9m votes with 64% voting in favour nothing like the close Brexit vote in 2016.

By all means fill the tunnel for me, but what another own goal for Britain that would be with £46bn lost in exports directly linked to the tunnel and another 220,000 jobs gone also directly linked to the tunnel.

You could also wave goodbye to a further £1.7bn income from inbound tourism and a further 45,000 jobs which support it.

If only you could arrange this maybe the Right Wing extremists who would support it could bury BJ somewhere close to the middle to save any further collateral damage.

Sadly the Conservative Party has been destroyed by disillusioned traditional Labour Voters who were brainwashed by the Daily Express and Daily Mail into thinking that Boris’s Britain would bring them equality and a better life which most of us know won’t happen, just another of Boris’s many lies like the £350m every day to improve the NHS. Boris is to honesty what Putin is to peace, I just hope the brainwashed realise this by the time it comes to any future election because until we have a stronger opposition the only way out of this mess is to have either a far from ideal hung parliament or a Conservative Party that moves closer to the Centre with a Statesman like Prime Minister. Some thought, others hoped that Boris might just be this person, but it’s clear to most that he’s just not capable of this.

…. and just to cap it all, for anyone with f*cked up travel arrangements this coming weekend, you can blame Boris for the mess at all the borders we’ve lost control of brought about by a f*cked up furlogh scheme which allowed recipients to take the money and run, and Brexit which drove away thousands of disillusioned Europeans who chose to leave Britain and go home. The rest of the World have their major city airports operating smoothly and they’ve all had Covid to deal with just the same as the UK, the only difference is most have managed Covid better and haven’t had a Brexit. Britain is in a mess, most of it caused by Boris and his closet allies, eg Jacob Reece-Mogg, Dominic Raab, Pritti Patel, Michael Gove, Sajid Javid etc just to name a handful, honestly how many of these would you really trust and I haven’t even mentioned silver spoon Rishi Sunak who anyone can see is the next most likely candidate to self promote himself to leader of the Party.

Bloody hell Woolfie you really do bring the worst out of me, but as you can guess I really hate this PM with a passion and unlike you and Andy M I am a self confessed Tory although I haven’t yet and never will vote Conservative whilst BJ remains the leader.

Rant over.

Ps: I promise I’ll try not to respond anymore ☹️…. Maybe a better topic for discussion would be, who could replace Boris Johnson as the next Prime Minister ?
I agree with pretty much every word of that. The Conservatives have a liar and bullshitter leader that so many latch on to because he has cultivated a personality. Labour have a leader with no personality whatsoever in an age when personality and sound bites are so important. Short slogans (Get Brexit done, make America great again) rule over sound policies.

My own view is that both main parties are hamstrung by trying to cater for the centrists and the extreme elements of their parties, which leads to infighting in both camps. I’d much prefer to see proportional representation which would allow other parties to get the representation their support deserves. Although I remain a remainer, I just think how much better a Brexit deal we might have achieved if Theresa May has gone into it on as cross party basis. Labour support would have nullified the extreme right of the Tory party. Consensus politics (PR often leads to coalition governments) has got to be better than the current system where, whichever party wins, the extremists manage to hold the upper hand.

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Post by goldandblack » Tue Apr 05, 2022 3:08 pm

We seem to be putting all the blame on Boris for leaving the Fagins of the EU.
But he was actually working for those who voted OUT. As said he was a remainer but still did what we voted him to do, perhaps the finger should be pointed at US or Nigel Farage perhaps.
Thank you Boris. And Nigel

While the EU Differed on taking the jabs for Covid Boris went ahead and ordered millions of the doses
Thank You Boris and our brilliant Scientists,

How I look on the EU it was like every year us and all our mates from the EU all went down the boozer, everyone chucked 20 notes in the kitty,
At the end of the night us and Germany got 2 quid back, France, Spain, Belgium, Portugal, etc got 15 quid back, Greece and their neighbours got 20 quid back and us and Germany had to pay for their cabs home. Plus a tip.
We also got the bill for Blairs, Kinnock, and William Hague and families 7 course meals in the saloon bar of the same boozer,.

Think that sums up our part in the EU, Any Discrepancy’s in these figures blame Boris or his Cat not me, :wink:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0Vd6QQsWeA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Ojjn35kP8

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Re: Arrise Sir Boris

Post by goldandblack » Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:40 pm

Charnwood wrote:
Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:43 pm
I never open the “You Tubes” Woolfie so they’re always wasted on me. Like you I’m not getting out much either cos it’s hardly stopped raining here for two weeks so no golf, nobody plays here when it rains. As soon as the sun shines again you won’t see me on here for dust and I certainly won’t be thinking anything about politics which generally bore me shitless.

All said and done I won’t be on here next month much anyway as we head off to the US for four weeks and a few days on Sunday. Just thankful for ifollow so I can at least watch the footie live whilst I’m away.
Your Lucky Andy, I struggle to get to the end of my garden, raining or not, if it wasn't for Covid I'd be back on the North Bank by now,

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Re: Arrise Sir Boris

Post by goldandblack » Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:47 pm

Andy wrote:
Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:31 pm
Charnwood wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:37 pm
goldandblack wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:42 pm


Agree, we did the dirty on NZ and all our commonwealth friends, We did have a choice but they fixed that vote, personally i have never met anyone who actually voted to go into the common market,
Brussels is as i said just a cash cow for failed politicians, and their families. Why should us and Germany pay to bail out the likes of France, Italy, Spain, Belgium etc etc, year after year,

Well Done Boris getting us out of that and lets fill the Channel Tunnel while we are at it, perhaps with William Hague's,Liar Blair's and Neil Kinnocks gold, or perhaps tears now,,
where do you want your statue Mr Johnson,
You need to get out and mix more Woolfie, the majority to join the Common Market was almost 9m votes with 64% voting in favour nothing like the close Brexit vote in 2016.

By all means fill the tunnel for me, but what another own goal for Britain that would be with £46bn lost in exports directly linked to the tunnel and another 220,000 jobs gone also directly linked to the tunnel.

You could also wave goodbye to a further £1.7bn income from inbound tourism and a further 45,000 jobs which support it.

If only you could arrange this maybe the Right Wing extremists who would support it could bury BJ somewhere close to the middle to save any further collateral damage.

Sadly the Conservative Party has been destroyed by disillusioned traditional Labour Voters who were brainwashed by the Daily Express and Daily Mail into thinking that Boris’s Britain would bring them equality and a better life which most of us know won’t happen, just another of Boris’s many lies like the £350m every day to improve the NHS. Boris is to honesty what Putin is to peace, I just hope the brainwashed realise this by the time it comes to any future election because until we have a stronger opposition the only way out of this mess is to have either a far from ideal hung parliament or a Conservative Party that moves closer to the Centre with a Statesman like Prime Minister. Some thought, others hoped that Boris might just be this person, but it’s clear to most that he’s just not capable of this.

…. and just to cap it all, for anyone with f*cked up travel arrangements this coming weekend, you can blame Boris for the mess at all the borders we’ve lost control of brought about by a f*cked up furlogh scheme which allowed recipients to take the money and run, and Brexit which drove away thousands of disillusioned Europeans who chose to leave Britain and go home. The rest of the World have their major city airports operating smoothly and they’ve all had Covid to deal with just the same as the UK, the only difference is most have managed Covid better and haven’t had a Brexit. Britain is in a mess, most of it caused by Boris and his closet allies, eg Jacob Reece-Mogg, Dominic Raab, Pritti Patel, Michael Gove, Sajid Javid etc just to name a handful, honestly how many of these would you really trust and I haven’t even mentioned silver spoon Rishi Sunak who anyone can see is the next most likely candidate to self promote himself to leader of the Party.

Bloody hell Woolfie you really do bring the worst out of me, but as you can guess I really hate this PM with a passion and unlike you and Andy M I am a self confessed Tory although I haven’t yet and never will vote Conservative whilst BJ remains the leader.

Rant over.

Ps: I promise I’ll try not to respond anymore ☹️…. Maybe a better topic for discussion would be, who could replace Boris Johnson as the next Prime Minister ?
I agree with pretty much every word of that. The Conservatives have a liar and bullshitter leader that so many latch on to because he has cultivated a personality. Labour have a leader with no personality whatsoever in an age when personality and sound bites are so important. Short slogans (Get Brexit done, make America great again) rule over sound policies.

My own view is that both main parties are hamstrung by trying to cater for the centrists and the extreme elements of their parties, which leads to infighting in both camps. I’d much prefer to see proportional representation which would allow other parties to get the representation their support deserves. Although I remain a remainer, I just think how much better a Brexit deal we might have achieved if Theresa May has gone into it on as cross party basis. Labour support would have nullified the extreme right of the Tory party. Consensus politics (PR often leads to coalition governments) has got to be better than the current system where, whichever party wins, the extremists manage to hold the upper hand.
you make some good points Andy but don't agree with some of them, I think the Boris reign is up against those extremists and not working with them.
IMO, Theresa May was either very weak or just didn't want us out of the EU or told not to come out. She must have been over in Brussels at a drop of a hat and when these Anti British EU members told her to, Boris was in charge dealing with them and well done Boris for not jumping at a click of a finger or letting the French run our country.

both of you say he is the worst Prime Minister, We have at least 2 with blood on their hands at the front of the que.

that stretch of water between us and them is why we are GREAT BRITAIN, and exactly why we had a vote, and the people spoke,

a good read,
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26515129

Power to the people


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Re: Arrise Sir Boris

Post by Charnwood » Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:55 pm

Blimey Woolfie I can’t believe how brain washed you are.

1) The majority of informed people in the UK now accept that Brexit was a mistake and there’s more than enough information in the public domain to support that view without me needing to expand.
Well done Boris👏

2) Boris spent millions of UK Taxpayers rushing through the development of the World Beating Oxford AstraZeneca Covid Vaccine treating it more of a race / competition with the EU than getting it right first time ignoring warnings that it was the wrong technology and even ignoring manufacturers recommendations on how best to use it. Instead it was simply a race to get a first dose into anybody and everybody’s arm as fast as he could even though it soon became evident it was a second rate product compared with the Pfizer/BioNTech product developed by US&Germany in just 110 days using mRNA vaccine technology to produce a way superior product offering much better protection. I think even the UK Government have accepted this now, making the AZ vaccine almost redundant.
Well done Boris. 👏

3) What about the PPE Scandal that Tory Peers and Ministers and their mates all got their noses in the troughs with wasting £10 Bn of taxpayers money on.
Well done Boris👏

4) Nightingale Hospitals - Built at a cost of £530m, a great idea but hardly any patients ever treated in them because nobody had bothered to work out that the NHS didn’t have any spare doctors or nurses to staff them with because of staff shortages caused by the many leavers who returned to the EU because of Brexit.
Well done Boris👏

5) The furlough scheme - Probably the worst £70 billion ever spent by any Government paying people to sit at home and do nothing which was a monumental waste of taxpayer money which could have been far better used paying Income Support to those who really needed it. Instead with few checks and balances in place it has lined the pockets of many wealthy recipients who neither needed or deserved it. A great example was P&O who claimed anything from £10m-£30m in furlough money in the same year it paid its bosses £270m in dividends. This is just one example that recently came to light, there will be hundreds more, and wealthy self employed who bagged £10k each with no checks whatsoever and there will be tens of thousands of them.
Well done Boris👏


….. and you don’t understand why I don’t like him. 🤔

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Post by goldandblack » Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:40 pm

Charnwood wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:55 pm
Blimey Woolfie I can’t believe how brain washed you are.

1) The majority of informed people in the UK now accept that Brexit was a mistake and there’s more than enough information in the public domain to support that view without me needing to expand.
Well done Boris👏

2) Boris spent millions of UK Taxpayers rushing through the development of the World Beating Oxford AstraZeneca Covid Vaccine treating it more of a race / competition with the EU than getting it right first time ignoring warnings that it was the wrong technology and even ignoring manufacturers recommendations on how best to use it. Instead it was simply a race to get a first dose into anybody and everybody’s arm as fast as he could even though it soon became evident it was a second rate product compared with the Pfizer/BioNTech product developed by US&Germany in just 110 days using mRNA vaccine technology to produce a way superior product offering much better protection. I think even the UK Government have accepted this now, making the AZ vaccine almost redundant.
Well done Boris. 👏

3) What about the PPE Scandal that Tory Peers and Ministers and their mates all got their noses in the troughs with wasting £10 Bn of taxpayers money on.
Well done Boris👏

4) Nightingale Hospitals - Built at a cost of £530m, a great idea but hardly any patients ever treated in them because nobody had bothered to work out that the NHS didn’t have any spare doctors or nurses to staff them with because of staff shortages caused by the many leavers who returned to the EU because of Brexit.
Well done Boris👏

5) The furlough scheme - Probably the worst £70 billion ever spent by any Government paying people to sit at home and do nothing which was a monumental waste of taxpayer money which could have been far better used paying Income Support to those who really needed it. Instead with few checks and balances in place it has lined the pockets of many wealthy recipients who neither needed or deserved it. A great example was P&O who claimed anything from £10m-£30m in furlough money in the same year it paid its bosses £270m in dividends. This is just one example that recently came to light, there will be hundreds more, and wealthy self employed who bagged £10k each with no checks whatsoever and there will be tens of thousands of them.
Well done Boris👏


….. and you don’t understand why I don’t like him. 🤔
Well Done Andy, You ask a question then answer your own question.

1.So you know what the majority of folk in the UK are thinking now. So you challenge someone to a game of golf and lose, you wouldn't except that you LOST and stamp your feet and say we play again, how many times would you lose before you except you actually LOST or keep playing the match until you win,
Bad loser/s perhaps,

2. You criticise the Government spending all that Tax Payers money on the
Covid Vaccine treatment. then you continue to say in .4. the nightingale hospitals were hardly used, Well the reason why those same said Hospitals were hardly used was because of spending all that money on an antidote. :astroll:

3. like others conveniently forgetting the rush to get enough ppi in to safeguard the NHS to the best ability.
Also Europe putting millions of fake PPI into landfill purchased which also included our Tax Payers money. better the devil you know springs to mind eh.

5, I think i will treat that statement as contempt to the hard working BRITISH WORKERS.

I think i do know why you don't like Boris now, its all in your question 5.

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Post by Frosty » Fri Apr 08, 2022 7:29 am

Brexit is still a toxic subject still then huh. :wink:

You are both good guys, who should really agree to disagree.

I actually see both sides of it down here, the loss of being part of a big economic common market versus your own identity and not wanting to be subject to some of Europe's parliamentary decisions.

Quite frankly if I lived in your part of the world, I am not sure I would even want to be part of NATO. Britain owns 4 trident carrying SSBN's which is all you really need now days if you want security.

I see the world getting dragged into yet another larger European conflict (rightly or wrongly) over a feud between between the two largest SSR's of the former USSR. (which I am not completely convinced that the CIA isn't stoking). I do need to qualify my statement that the actions of Russia that have come to light over recent days are completely unacceptable, although totally not unsurprising if one is a student of history.

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Post by marko69 » Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:16 pm

Don’t want to sway the conv away from Boris, but as you mention Russia, Frosty, i’ll just say that i do not know what to believe anymore. The news becomes sillier by the day.
Controversially, I DO NOT believe Russia are guilty of War crimes. I think Zelensky is starting to become full of sh*t and is all out propaganda-ing things up. Just cannot believe a so called Super Power would resort to the claims made by Ukraine.

On the “Super Power” label. Vlad has really f*cked up. Properly underestimated the task. To hear comments like, “……. failed to take Kiev…..”
Thats sounds terrible for trying to “show face”……. A super power cant take a city?? EH? 🤷‍♂️

Nope, Vlad, you’ve lost your scary edge. And you’ve lost this conflict with added bullshit prop chucked at you.

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Post by goldandblack » Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:56 pm

Frosty wrote:
Fri Apr 08, 2022 7:29 am
Brexit is still a toxic subject still then huh. :wink:

You are both good guys, who should really agree to disagree.

I actually see both sides of it down here, the loss of being part of a big economic common market versus your own identity and not wanting to be subject to some of Europe's parliamentary decisions.

Quite frankly if I lived in your part of the world, I am not sure I would even want to be part of NATO. Britain owns 4 trident carrying SSBN's which is all you really need now days if you want security.

I see the world getting dragged into yet another larger European conflict (rightly or wrongly) over a feud between between the two largest SSR's of the former USSR. (which I am not completely convinced that the CIA isn't stoking). I do need to qualify my statement that the actions of Russia that have come to light over recent days are completely unacceptable, although totally not unsurprising if one is a student of history.
Dave,
I still respect Charnwood, Andym’s and yours opinions as I always have, I wouldn't bring this forum into any disrespect or confliction .

I think we have all kept this as just a discussion amongst folk old and ugly enough to just keep it as just a difference of opinion, otherwise I wouldn’t continue.
But I won’t change my views as I my very first posted, that no Prime Minister has had to deal with such big issues in just a short while not forgetting he is working alongside his own colleagues ? who voted against Brexit for their own interests not ours,

What really gets up my nose is these ITV Newsreaders like Tom Bradley forgetting he is just there to read the news, and his sidekick Preston for being a total D…K
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Post by goldandblack » Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:57 pm

marko69 wrote:
Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:16 pm
Don’t want to sway the conv away from Boris, but as you mention Russia, Frosty, i’ll just say that i do not know what to believe anymore. The news becomes sillier by the day.
Controversially, I DO NOT believe Russia are guilty of War crimes. I think Zelensky is starting to become full of sh*t and is all out propaganda-ing things up. Just cannot believe a so called Super Power would resort to the claims made by Ukraine.

On the “Super Power” label. Vlad has really f*cked up. Properly underestimated the task. To hear comments like, “……. failed to take Kiev…..”
Thats sounds terrible for trying to “show face”……. A super power cant take a city?? EH? 🤷‍♂️

Nope, Vlad, you’ve lost your scary edge. And you’ve lost this conflict with added bullshit prop chucked at you.
Think will keep out of this one mate,

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Post by marko69 » Fri Apr 08, 2022 2:14 pm

Probably right to do so, Wolfie. The BBC News & Jeremy Vine radio progs etc are just becoming unlistenable. Its constant contradictory news. Who do we believe?

The other day, a news reporter was reporting from a city in Southern Ukraine, talking about “horrors” ……. (Important to home in on the terminology ——->> horrors) ….. and just in the immediate background was a woman casually resting against a wall, on her phone, costa coffee cup in hand.

In 1991 when the first Gulf War was taking place, John Simpson looked like he was in real horror situations, dodging bullets, skuds etc etc.,……. But something isn’t sitting right with all this.
Probably listened too much of the tit for tat world oil & gas situation and the conspiracy theories surrounding that with regards to war etc etc.
Never denying people are losing lives, it is a shocking situation in 2022……… but because there are MANY “truths” out there, that means there are a shedload of lies out there and its f**king annoying.

Anyway, back to Boris chat. Who is in the suit today? :D

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Post by goldandblack » Fri Apr 08, 2022 7:37 pm

marko69 wrote:
Fri Apr 08, 2022 2:14 pm
Probably right to do so, Wolfie. The BBC News & Jeremy Vine radio progs etc are just becoming unlistenable. Its constant contradictory news. Who do we believe?

The other day, a news reporter was reporting from a city in Southern Ukraine, talking about “horrors” ……. (Important to home in on the terminology ——->> horrors) ….. and just in the immediate background was a woman casually resting against a wall, on her phone, costa coffee cup in hand.

In 1991 when the first Gulf War was taking place, John Simpson looked like he was in real horror situations, dodging bullets, skuds etc etc.,……. But something isn’t sitting right with all this.
Probably listened too much of the tit for tat world oil & gas situation and the conspiracy theories surrounding that with regards to war etc etc.
Never denying people are losing lives, it is a shocking situation in 2022……… but because there are MANY “truths” out there, that means there are a shedload of lies out there and its f**king annoying.

Anyway, back to Boris chat. Who is in the suit today? :D
I was watching the local news this week talking about the rising prices,
this reporter was on the street and interviewing folk. this woman said to the reporter she had to watch every pound just to survive, while she was drinking a Costa Coffee, not sure if folk realise what hard up really means means,

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Post by marko69 » Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:21 pm

Yeah, who edits these reports for TV?

Had something like that back in January on Reporting Scotland…….. some family in Motherwell who couldn’t make ends meet being interviewed in the lounge of their house which was like feckin Toys R Us. 🤷‍♂️ Kid sitting in the background building a lego theme park FFS. 🤦‍♂️

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