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Plymouth have just lost their manager ….

Post by hallamblue » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:34 pm

To Stoke. It’ll be interesting to see how they cope with that. They’re teetering a bit close to that relegation scrap aren’t they. Wonder how many players will follow him?

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Post by shabba » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:54 pm

Shame, I like Plymouth - seems a decent club, good last couple of managers and some decent players.

Not sure how much of an upgrade stoke is, I guess they have a bit more money maybe and are a bigger club overall.

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Post by Mauswara » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:04 pm

If I had to choose which of those towns to live in there'd be no contest.

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Post by arana peligrosa » Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:14 am

shabba wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:54 pm
Shame, I like Plymouth - seems a decent club, good last couple of managers and some decent players.

Not sure how much of an upgrade stoke is, I guess they have a bit more money maybe and are a bigger club overall.
Believe all they've won is a League Cup in the early 70's. Probably one of the UK's oldest club names and for all the years of existence they don't really have much to show for it. Stanley Matthews was a great figure and icon of the game but for trophies won or challenged, they've fallen way short.

Never had an issue with Plymouth but thought last season we were clearly the best team in League One. Us and not they should have taken the title but we're having such a great season now you can kind of overlook it.

Sunderland as an aside have brought in ex-Huns coach Mike Beal on a two and half year contract. Won over 30 games from like 44 played in the SPL but it wasn't good enough for the directors there following a poor start thereafter. It's a fickle game where loyalty and understanding can go by the wayside at any given time.

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Post by Bluemike » Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:47 am

Still at Plymouth as far as I can see ??

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Post by marko69 » Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:06 pm

Yes, Saint……. Sorry for hijacking thread again, (9 will boot my arse)……. But Beale to Sunderland is a proper head scratcher. Someone at Sunderland reckons Beale will make them better than what Mowbray could. Jaysus H, if i was a black cat —->> extremely underwhelmed.

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Post by hallamblue » Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:10 pm

The Mackems are definitely NOT happy marko .

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Post by Shed on tour » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:51 pm

Bluemike wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:47 am
Still at Plymouth as far as I can see ??
Now been confirmed as new Stoke manager.

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Post by hallamblue » Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:10 pm

You should be wrapping pressies- mine especially. Don’t worry about Mike, he still believes in Father Christmas! :lol:

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Post by Bluemike » Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:51 pm

Shed on tour wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:51 pm
Bluemike wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:47 am
Still at Plymouth as far as I can see ??
Now been confirmed as new Stoke manager.
Yeah saw he was now

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Post by herforder » Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:23 pm

My great grandfather is buried in Plymouth. He doesn’t get out much.

Interesting one. Must believe he’ll be better placed to progress with Stoke, rather than Plymouth whose budget is likely to be some way inferior, and therefore limiting in the Cship. Assume the Pilgrims will be due some compo.

Any chance of us prising Morgan Whittaker away from them?

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Post by marko69 » Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:26 pm

herforder wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:23 pm
Any chance of us prising Morgan Whittaker away from them?
GREAT call. 👍👌

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Post by Charnwood » Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:30 pm

I don’t see this as much of a career move. Must be a money driven decision or maybe a fall out with the Plymouth owners.

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Post by Charnwood » Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:54 am

Add Stoke City to the list of Football Clubs we meet soon after appointing a new manager, it happens so often and adds an extra dimension to the game with the team often benefiting from a new manager bounce.

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Post by Bluemike » Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:11 am

Well Plymouth fans were saying how great the owners are and what a relationship they have with Schumacher so I can only think he views it as a good career move, clearly a bigger club but not much better atm.

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Post by shabba » Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:58 am

Bluemike wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2023 11:11 am
Well Plymouth fans were saying how great the owners are and what a relationship they have with Schumacher so I can only think he views it as a good career move, clearly a bigger club but not much better atm.
Yes higher potential I guess.

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Post by hallamblue » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:37 pm

He may benefit from the summer signings brought it. As we know it takes time to gel a new team together. His predecessor hasn’t had the time to benefit from those acquisitions.

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Post by herforder » Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:30 pm

Interesting that only four C’ship managers remain in post from the start of last season: Town, Blackburn, Preston and Coventry. High level of churn in a ‘results based’ industry. Sometimes, though, there’s no obvious rationale to owners’ hitting the eject button. John Eustace vs Wayne Rooney at Brum falls into that basket. Possible move by Eustace to Plymouth seems a good bet!

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Post by Bluemike » Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:46 pm

Eustace would be an excellent fit for Plymouth, they could certainly do a lot worse.

What Birmingham did defies any sense of logic, Rooney is without question one of the worst managers there is, they get what they deserve as far as I'm concerned.

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Post by hallamblue » Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:06 pm

herforder wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:30 pm
Interesting that only four C’ship managers remain in post from the start of last season: Town, Blackburn, Preston and Coventry. High level of churn in a ‘results based’ industry. Sometimes, though, there’s no obvious rationale to owners’ hitting the eject button. John Eustace vs Wayne Rooney at Brum falls into that basket. Possible move by Eustace to Plymouth seems a good bet!
When did nodge appoint Wagner? I thought he was there last season?

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Post by AzzurroMark » Wed Dec 20, 2023 3:52 pm

hallamblue wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:06 pm
herforder wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:30 pm
Interesting that only four C’ship managers remain in post from the start of last season: Town, Blackburn, Preston and Coventry. High level of churn in a ‘results based’ industry. Sometimes, though, there’s no obvious rationale to owners’ hitting the eject button. John Eustace vs Wayne Rooney at Brum falls into that basket. Possible move by Eustace to Plymouth seems a good bet!
When did nodge appoint Wagner? I thought he was there last season?
No Dean Smith was there until December 2022.

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Post by shabba » Wed Dec 20, 2023 6:21 pm

Blimey that’s a shocking stat! I’d love to know what overall result the change had, ie league position change from start of new manager to final league place.

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Post by hallamblue » Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:13 pm

AzzurroMark wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2023 3:52 pm
hallamblue wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:06 pm
herforder wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2023 1:30 pm
Interesting that only four C’ship managers remain in post from the start of last season: Town, Blackburn, Preston and Coventry. High level of churn in a ‘results based’ industry. Sometimes, though, there’s no obvious rationale to owners’ hitting the eject button. John Eustace vs Wayne Rooney at Brum falls into that basket. Possible move by Eustace to Plymouth seems a good bet!
When did nodge appoint Wagner? I thought he was there last season?
No Dean Smith was there until December 2022.
Ah, yes of course he was. I’d forgotten about him…. Another nodge manager that had left an impression then.. :lol:

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