was MM on that link then, i didn't notice that , come to think about it we haven't had a thread/ discussion on Mick for ages,hallamblue wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:21 amLol I thought you were talking about McCarthy coz the article is all about him ….yer WUM ha hagoldandblack wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:20 pmMick ? I was talking about Dave Edwards, you've got MM on the brain,hallamblue wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:17 pmLol, I’d stop watching Town if he ever came back here … which he won’t , coz he simply isn’t good enough and incapable of producing the brand of football our owners ( and fans) want at this Club.
For me McCarthy is a sticking plaster for any club needing to steady their ship. I’ll tell you a club that could have find with him ( but it’s too late now ), and that’s Derby County !
If not Cook ….. then who ?
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He’s yesterday’s news John , that’s why
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He’s yesterday’s news John, that’s why
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did you have to say it twice to convince yourself or me Liz LOL.
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did you have to say it twice to convince yourself or me Liz LOL.
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That is interesting, looks like he is finally coming to the end.
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tangfastic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:41 pmInteresting read. Another who’s got no Plan B
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59327793
Cardiff isn't no nice place with or without McCarthy. Swansea's what forty miles to the west but it's streets ahead in terms of design, vibrancy and attraction. Much reduced crime level also.
McCarthy maybe won't get employed again. He's had a good run but needs to accept as a managerial figure that his time has passed. Still regret to this day that we brought him in after Jewell was it. An absolute banal mundane demeanor at attempting to get things done.
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tangfastic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:41 pmInteresting read. Another who’s got no Plan B
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59327793
Perry Ng: Cardiff 'wasn't a nice place' under ex-boss Mick McCarthy
That statement sums up football today, which you see time and time again against good managers,
Imagine the likes of Bill Shankly, Don Revie, Sir Alex, or Cloughie, etc. reaction to that statement,
They never had a plan B, as the team/players were good enough and also needed to keep their job, the manager was the boss.
As for a Plan B, an old saying, “you can’t make a purse out of a pigs ear” If a player/team isn’t good enough blame the manager, there not going to blame themselves,
they seemed to listen when they went on that 11 unbeaten run when he started, perhaps they were more interested in getting a new contract.
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Maybe they did, but Mick got a new 4 year contract in the summer as well. Mick’s done pretty well in his career. Nowhere near as good as the manager’s you listed or played anywhere as good football as them, but he’s lasted longer than most and had his successes. But not sure he’s still got it. That record of 8 straight losses is pretty damning for a manager who was known for safety first football and every points a prisoner.goldandblack wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:31 pmtangfastic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:41 pmInteresting read. Another who’s got no Plan B
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59327793
Perry Ng: Cardiff 'wasn't a nice place' under ex-boss Mick McCarthy
That statement sums up football today, which you see time and time again against good managers,
Imagine the likes of Bill Shankly, Don Revie, Sir Alex, or Cloughie, etc. reaction to that statement,
They never had a plan B, as the team/players were good enough and also needed to keep their job, the manager was the boss.
As for a Plan B, an old saying, “you can’t make a purse out of a pigs ear” If a player/team isn’t good enough blame the manager, there not going to blame themselves,
they seemed to listen when they went on that 11 unbeaten run when he started, perhaps they were more interested in getting a new contract.
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my point is players wouldn't decide those managers futures, (well except Leeds & Clough which adds to my view)they certainly do now, I remember Kenny Jacket writing an article on what I'm saying,tangfastic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:05 pmMaybe they did, but Mick got a new 4 year contract in the summer as well. Mick’s done pretty well in his career. Nowhere near as good as the manager’s you listed or played anywhere as good football as them, but he’s lasted longer than most and had his successes. But not sure he’s still got it. That record of 8 straight losses is pretty damning for a manager who was known for safety first football and every points a prisoner.goldandblack wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:31 pmtangfastic wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:41 pmInteresting read. Another who’s got no Plan B
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59327793
Perry Ng: Cardiff 'wasn't a nice place' under ex-boss Mick McCarthy
That statement sums up football today, which you see time and time again against good managers,
Imagine the likes of Bill Shankly, Don Revie, Sir Alex, or Cloughie, etc. reaction to that statement,
They never had a plan B, as the team/players were good enough and also needed to keep their job, the manager was the boss.
As for a Plan B, an old saying, “you can’t make a purse out of a pigs ear” If a player/team isn’t good enough blame the manager, there not going to blame themselves,
they seemed to listen when they went on that 11 unbeaten run when he started, perhaps they were more interested in getting a new contract.
he proved he was right at the Wolves,
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Do you feel that’s the case with Paul Cook, G&B? Obviously you’re a big supporter of MM, I’m just curious what you think of Cook?As for a Plan B, an old saying, “you can’t make a purse out of a pigs ear” If a player/team isn’t good enough blame the manager, there not going to blame themselves,
I can’t think of any manager who would come to ITFC in league one and do much better than Cook.
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There's currently Nine managers above us in League One doing better jobs with vastly inferior budgets and squads.
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Impossible to say really, I think a couple of them are excellent lower league managers who have probably never had such luxury as our squad would provide.
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Don't really know a lot about Paul Cook the manager,or a valid opinion, except he played for us and we saved him from the jaws/beaks of Norwich,number 9 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:16 pmDo you feel that’s the case with Paul Cook, G&B? Obviously you’re a big supporter of MM, I’m just curious what you think of Cook?As for a Plan B, an old saying, “you can’t make a purse out of a pigs ear” If a player/team isn’t good enough blame the manager, there not going to blame themselves,
I can’t think of any manager who would come to ITFC in league one and do much better than Cook.
getting back on topic, In all honesty i do believe MM has now passed his sell by date, my gripe is folk slagging him off, the best football i see at Wolves in 30 yrs was under MM, Thats what i judged him on, plus as to Hallams quote ".yer a WUM G & B ha ha "
also keeps a bit of banter going,