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Any Chance of Points?

Villa Win
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Town Win
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Draw
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19%
 
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Aston Villa vs Ipswich Town Preview & Matchday Thread

Post by Frosty » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:17 pm

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Saturday 26th January 2019– 15:00


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Pre-Match Thoughts - Bluemike



Another Nail In The Coffin?


The disappointing defeat away at Blackburn last weekend was yet another story of what might have been, honours even at half time and not an awful lot in the game gave hope that we may actually go on to take something from the game, lets be honest even a point would have been like Gold dust given how results went elsewhere, but alas it was not to be and once again we failed to capitalise on others shortcomings, thanks in no small part to yet another individual error, I dread to think how many that is now and again it was a different culprit with young Callum Elder the culprit on this occasion.

There is no doubt the penalty was a big turning point and the second that went it you kind of knew what was going to be the outcome, heads didn't drop but I do think any real belief that we can get back into it was severely lacking, the first half was not at all bad, in fact Will keane had a great chance just before the break to put us ahead so we were well in the game, at the moment it is all about fine margins, the Ref gives them a Penalty when he was clearly undecided and while it was a correct decision it has to be said the one at the end which we should have had was blatant and while it may not have made a difference it is really quite laughable how theirs is given and yet again ours isn't. Had Will Keane been a little less honest too we may well have had One in the first half which changes the whole game with Blackburn possibly down to Ten men too, as I say fine margins and ifs and buts.

I think we all have to be realistic and admit this latest setback is in all probability another nail in the coffin, while the gap is still not impossible and remains at seven points what is becoming worrying is that games are coming and going and as Paul Lambert says time is running out, to turn this around in Eighteen games is with the best will in the world not going to happen, it's never been done before and we are just not good enough to put a run of wins together. I've said several times now that to stand any chance we need to not only win the games we should win against the Rotherham's and Reading's of this world but we need at least a couple of shock results as well like victory at Villa Park or Carrow Road but to be honest it has never looked like happening, yes it could still happen but the likelihood is that it won't.


Great News


For me the best bit of news for many a day was the announcement that irrespective of what Division we are playing in next season Paul Lambert will be our manager, it restores a little bit of hope in me that relegation may not be quite as painful as I once feared, it will still hurt for sure and the Summer will be one where I struggle to even think about Football for a few weeks but once I have digested the reality of it and dusted myself down and thought about it realistically we surely must have a great chance of bouncing back and with it a fair few games of Football being won along the way, I am not daft enough to think it will be a breeze because it won't but with a manager of that calibre and with some of the young talent on our books we will be in with a real fighting chance.

I think Paul Lambert has revitalised the fans superbly well and while some are still dubious of his ways most seem to have really bought into what he is trying to do, it is not just the team on the pitch that needed to be sorted but the club from top to bottom and this he has started to do. Bringing back some of the clubs legends from yesteryear was a great stroke, to hear their thoughts and wishes for ITFC can only be a good thing, Lambert could not have spoken any higher about us fans and I was one fortunate enough to benefit from his gesture last weekend where he picked up the tab for our travel costs to Blackburn, even then some dismiss it because "he can easily afford it" but that is not the point, he did it !! I applaud him for at least trying to bring a togetherness back among the fans and the atmosphere against Rotherham is testimony to the fact that for the time being at least it is working. I feel we are in very good hands in that regard.


Villa Park Up Next


When you are desperate for a win Villa Park is hardly a place to be heading to and while they are not doing particularly well right now it is still a daunting task for the Town team to face, we need points, it doesn't matter how they come or where , we just need them to start arriving, thanks to the FA Cup this week only Rotherham from our relegation rivals have a game and with that being against Leeds you would like to think that no further damage to the seven point gap will be inflicted should we get beaten. I remember rolling up at at Villa Park a couple of seasons back fearing a drubbing only for Emyr Huws to send us into raptures with the only goal of the game to give us a shock win, boy how I would love a repeat of that scenario on Saturday.

A glance at Villa's team sheet tells me Two things, firstly they should be doing much better than sitting in Thirteenth place, Seven points off the play offs and secondly we have one hell of a job on our hands, on paper at least, Hutton, Chester, Hourihane, kodjia, Adomah, Abraham, Bolasie, Grealish, it goes on, can we really see our defence holding out against that fire power ? I certainly can't and it looks like B&Q are going to be selling another nail very soon. At best a Two goal defeat for me I am afraid to say, is Emyr Fit ??????




The Opposition – Aston Villa



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Aston Villa Football Club were formed in March 1874, by members of the Villa Cross Wesleyan Chapel in Handsworth which is now part of Birmingham.

Aston Villa's first match was against the local Aston Brook St Mary's Rugby team. As a condition of the match, the Villa side had to agree to play the first half under rugby rules and the second half under football rules.

After moving to the Wellington Road ground in 1876, Villa soon established themselves as one of the best teams in the Midlands, winning their first honour, the Birmingham Senior Cup in 1880.

The club won their first FA Cup in 1887.

Aston Villa were one of the dozen teams that competed in the inaugural Football League in 1888 with one of the club's directors, William McGregor being the league's founder. Aston Villa emerged as the most successful English club of the Victorian era, winning no fewer than five League titles and three FA Cups by the end of Queen Victoria's reign. In 1897, the year Villa won The Double, they moved into their present home, the Aston Lower Grounds.

Aston Villa won their sixth FA Cup in 1920, soon after though the club began a slow decline that led to Villa, at the time one of the most famous and successful clubs in world football, being relegated in 1936 for the first time to the Second Division.

Like all English clubs, Villa lost seven seasons to the Second World War, and that conflict brought several careers to a premature end.

Aston Villa's first trophy for 37 years came in the 1956–57 season when they won a then record seventh FA Cup Final win.

The team struggled in the league though and were relegated two seasons later, due in large part to complacency. However, Villa returned to the top-flight in 1960 as Second Division Champions. The following season Aston Villa became the first team to win the Football League Cup.
Villa was relegated for the third time in 1967.

The following season the fans called for the board to resign as Villa finished 16th in the Second Division. With mounting debts and Villa lying at the bottom of Division Two, and after much speculation, control of the club was bought by London financier Pat Matthews. However, new ownership could not prevent Villa being relegated to the Third Division for the first time at the end of the 1969–70 season.

However, Villa gradually began to recover and in the 1971–72 season they returned to the Second Division as Champions.

In 1974, the club won the League Cup and, at the end of season 1974–75, Villa returned to the First Division and into Europe.

Villa were back among the elite and this culminated in a seventh top-flight league title in 1980–81.

In the 1981–82 season, Villa won the European Cup with a 1–0 victory over Bayern Munich in Rotterdam. The following season Villa were crowned European Super Cup winners, beating Barcelona in the final. This marked a pinnacle though and Villa's fortunes declined sharply for most of the 1980s, culminating in relegation in 1987. This was followed by promotion the following year and a runners-up position in the First Division in the 1989–90 season.

Villa were one of the founding members of the Premier League in 1992, and finished runners-up to Manchester United in the inaugural season. For the rest of the Nineties however Villa went through three different managers and their league positions were inconsistent, although they did win two League Cups and regularly achieved UEFA Cup qualification.

Villa reached the FA Cup final in 2000 but lost to Chelsea in the last game to be played at the old Wembley Stadium. Again Villa's league position continued to fluctuate under several different managers. After 23 years as chairman, and single biggest shareholder, Doug Ellis finally decided to sell his stake in Aston Villa due to ill-health. After much speculation it was announced the club was to be bought by American businessman Randy Lerner, owner of NFL franchise the Cleveland Browns.
The first Cup final of the Lerner era came in 2010 when Villa were beaten in the League Cup Final.

At the end of the 2011–12 season after Villa finished in 16th place, only just above the relegation zone.

On 28 February 2012, the club announced a financial loss of £53.9 million. Lerner put the club up for sale on 12 May 2014, with an estimated value of £200 million.

In the 2014–15 season Aston Villa scored just 12 goals in 25 league games, the lowest in Premier League history, and Paul Lambert was sacked on 11 February 2015, Tim Sherwood succeeded him, and saved Aston Villa from relegation while also leading them to the 2015 FA Cup Final.

Sherwood was sacked in the 2015–16 season, as was his successor Rémi Garde.

Eric Black took temporary charge of the team, but was not able to prevent Villa from being relegated for the first time since 1987.

On 2 June 2016, Roberto Di Matteo was announced as the club's new manager, before being replaced by Steve Bruce on the 12th October.

Last season Villa finished in 4th place and beat Middlesbrough in the Semi-Final playoffs before losing out to Fulham for a place in this seasons Premiership.

In October 2018, Bruce was sacked after winning only one of the past nine matches. He was replaced by Brentford manager Dean Smith. John Terry became assistant manager.





The Manager – Dean Smith



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Media Watch - K L Blue








Form Guide




Aston Villa Last 5 Matches – Currently in 13th place with 39 points



26 Dec Swansea City 0 - 1 Aston Villa


29 Dec Preston 1 - 1 Aston Villa


1 Jan Aston Villa 2 - 2 QP Rangers


12 Jan Wigan Athletic 3 - 0 Aston Villa


19 Jan Aston Villa 2 - 2 Hull City









Ipswich Last 5 Matches - Currently in 24th place with 18 points





26 Dec QP Rangers 3 - 0 Ipswich Town


29 Dec Middlesbrough 2 - 0 Ipswich Town


1 Jan Ipswich Town 2 - 3 Millwall


12 Jan Ipswich Town 1 - 0 Rotherham


19 Jan Blackburn 2 - 0 Ipswich Town






Marko’s Caption Contest – THE DON CUP



Looking at previous seasons tables in late January, any one of the top 6 at the moment, (top 7 if Tang gets himself posting again) look set to get their name placed on the DON CUP. Three previous winners in that Top 6; can one of them be the first to win it twice, or will there be a 5th name added! All to play for. Dig deep, give those judges a dilemma.



Blackburn scores:

AylesburyBlue 5pts
Frosty 4pts
Derickipsw 3pts
Ando, IpswichTownNo1 & Nicsreamer 2pts



LEAGUE TABLE

NICSCREAMER 60
ANDO 57
FROSTY 53
DERICKIPSW 49
BLUEMIKE 45
AYLESBURYBLUE 45
TANGFASTIC 45
NUMBER 9 35
IPSWICHTOWNNO1 34
BLUEBLOOD 33
WATERSHIP DOWN 16
JOHNNYB 10
BLUEPETER 9
PATTHEGIMP 8
BLUEWILF 7
KERRY BLUE 6
BARMY BILLY 6
SHED ON TOUR 5
TODD66 3
MASSEYFERGUSON 3
MARVINBAY1973 2
CHARNWOOD 1
KL BLUE 1
OHIOTRACTORBOY 1



VILLA CAPTION PIC


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Match Referee – Keith Stroud




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ASTON VILLA 2 IPSWICH TOWN 1

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Post by Kerry Blue » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:30 pm

Sorry to say I can only see a Villa win 2-0 😢

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Post by saint jude » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:57 pm

They'll take it, maybe by one goal and nothing more. Could be the score that finally sends the club into League One although realize that in truth (it) had already come to pass before this time of fixture.

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Post by Bluemike » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:21 pm

CAPTION....." Come and say it to my bloody face Derick"

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Post by Andym » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:28 pm

Bluemike wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:21 pm
CAPTION....." Come and say it to my bloody face Derick"
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Post by MasseyFerguson » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:09 am

Even though my contributions to discussions tend to be on the pessimistic side I usually let the closet optimist in me out when it comes to predictions for games. In that vein I'm plumping for a 1-1 draw.

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Post by Charnwood » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:32 am

One thing for sure is that we’ll need to score at least one maybe two goals to get anything out of this game. Villa haven’t failed to score in any of their home games and the only stat that gives us any hope is that four of their last five games at Villa Park have ended drawn three of them 2-2, the other 5-5.

If we can score I think we could nick a point, if not we lose to Nil again 2-0 or worse.

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Post by derick_ipsw » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:11 am

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Post by Andym » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:55 am

It's hard to see how we can break the cycle of conceding at least 2 in away games.
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Post by nicscreamer » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:30 am

I cant see anything other than a loss :-(. Prove me wrong Ipswich.

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Post by Watership Down » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:27 pm

It's too big of a hill to climb against a club like Villa...... Aston Villa 3 Ipswich 1

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Post by marko69 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:50 pm

Another decent preview in the circumstances.

I think if I was going to this game by coach, I’d just get myself slightly pished so I could sing in the coach Home. Nothing worse than a quiet coach after a 3-0 defeat. Get that coach rocking...... “ITFC Til you all die” etc etc.
Just can’t see anything here but defeat.

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Post by Ando » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:51 pm

Routine defeat is all I can see, possibly 1-1 at best. Just can't see us getting more than 1 goal in any game at present. I really hope I'm wrong.

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Post by hallamblue » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:23 pm

Arrogant Villa fans .... some of their views below:


Next up, the mighty Tractor Boys!”, “This is a brilliant chance for Dean Smith to get back to winning ways”, “If we can't beat Ipswich at home we may as well just call it a day”, “Quite frankly if we don't win this, we definitely aren't getting in the top six this season”, “Hard to believe we won't win this.”

“As for the game then it’s a bit of a must-win, purely because Ipswich are terrible.” The vast majority of Claret and Blues expect nothing other than a routine home win. “A win isn't enough. A statement will be needed to give fans encouragement and players confidence, a big fat 3-0 or 4-1 statement.”

“If we can’t beat Ipswich then we are done for the season really. I have no animosity to Paul Lambert and hope he is given a polite welcome, but his team is made is League One players and third-rate Championship players. If he can beat us with that lot or get a draw against us, then shame on us.”

“Lambert will want to get one over on us as well. It will be interesting to see what sort of reception he gets at Villa Park”, “In principle, this one should be a win and that makes me nervous all on its own”, “After nearly getting properly mauled by the Tigers, we risk getting ploughed by the Tractors.”

One Villa fan reflected on distant days… “I would have struggled to believe that our visitors would be bottom of this league and we would be in the bottom half of it 38 years after we did battle with each other to be champions of England. We were really the two best teams in England back then.

“Although Ipswich fans have always had difficulty in accepting it, we were the best of the two teams having won the Championship trophy by four clear points.”

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Post by nicscreamer » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:34 pm

To be fair, they are mostly correct. They really should be beating us, and we are a team of league one players....

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Post by Shed on tour » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:52 pm

Can't say I would argue about their assessment of our current team.
However, with regards to the 81 teams I would argue that our first 11 were better than theirs, we beat them the 3 times we played them that season.
Where they had the advantage was we were going for 3 trophies that year and did not have the squad to cope with it.

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Post by Bluemike » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:11 pm

Yes unfortunately they are pretty much correct. As for 81 our team was better than theirs by some distance, just my opinion.

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Post by marko69 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:31 pm

“Ploughed by the Tractors....” That was a good one. :lol:

I do have memories of thinking Gary Shaw from the 81 Villa team was superb.

But they played in the worst colours known to football.

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Post by rossi » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:50 pm

hallamblue wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:23 pm
Arrogant Villa fans .... some of their views below:


Next up, the mighty Tractor Boys!”, “This is a brilliant chance for Dean Smith to get back to winning ways”, “If we can't beat Ipswich at home we may as well just call it a day”, “Quite frankly if we don't win this, we definitely aren't getting in the top six this season”, “Hard to believe we won't win this.”

“As for the game then it’s a bit of a must-win, purely because Ipswich are terrible.” The vast majority of Claret and Blues expect nothing other than a routine home win. “A win isn't enough. A statement will be needed to give fans encouragement and players confidence, a big fat 3-0 or 4-1 statement.”

“If we can’t beat Ipswich then we are done for the season really. I have no animosity to Paul Lambert and hope he is given a polite welcome, but his team is made is League One players and third-rate Championship players. If he can beat us with that lot or get a draw against us, then shame on us.”

“Lambert will want to get one over on us as well. It will be interesting to see what sort of reception he gets at Villa Park”, “In principle, this one should be a win and that makes me nervous all on its own”, “After nearly getting properly mauled by the Tigers, we risk getting ploughed by the Tractors.”

One Villa fan reflected on distant days… “I would have struggled to believe that our visitors would be bottom of this league and we would be in the bottom half of it 38 years after we did battle with each other to be champions of England. We were really the two best teams in England back then.

“Although Ipswich fans have always had difficulty in accepting it, we were the best of the two teams having won the Championship trophy by four clear points.”
Oh, I would not say they are being arrogant - merely speaking the truth, and I can't really disagree with anything they say.

As far as the game goes, though, I think the form book will disappear for this one - more a case of a manager getting one over the club that sacked him.

Villa 1 - Ipswich 2

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Post by saint jude » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:20 pm

The last opposition quote failed to mention us winning three times against them that season, home, away and FA Cup. Bit of a convenient oversight that. Yes they won the league eventually but don't tell me they were a better team player for player than ourselves.

I got no issue with an opposition stating they'll expect to win (present time) but there's often a lack of respect with it. It's almost as if we're just there to make up the numbers and any chance of a Town victory (or indeed point) is waved aside amid a touch of ridicule. Realize it's not the best of circumstances but people could be a little more courteous with their assessments.

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Post by Bluemike » Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:19 pm

Exactly SJ, we kicked their arses Three times.

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Post by BLUEBLOOD » Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:51 pm

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Post by Bluemike » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:46 am

Off we go for more pain.

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Post by Frosty » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:41 am

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“Chambers couldn’t believe no one got the answer of Dolly Parton after they gave up playing football and asked Villa to join them in a game of Charades”

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Post by Ando » Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:14 am

We were the best side in Europe in 81 let alone in England. How close we came to a treble was quite remarkable really.

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Post by Marvinbay1973 » Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:51 am

hallamblue wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:23 pm
Arrogant Villa fans .... some of their views below:


Next up, the mighty Tractor Boys!”, “This is a brilliant chance for Dean Smith to get back to winning ways”, “If we can't beat Ipswich at home we may as well just call it a day”, “Quite frankly if we don't win this, we definitely aren't getting in the top six this season”, “Hard to believe we won't win this.”

“As for the game then it’s a bit of a must-win, purely because Ipswich are terrible.” The vast majority of Claret and Blues expect nothing other than a routine home win. “A win isn't enough. A statement will be needed to give fans encouragement and players confidence, a big fat 3-0 or 4-1 statement.”

“If we can’t beat Ipswich then we are done for the season really. I have no animosity to Paul Lambert and hope he is given a polite welcome, but his team is made is League One players and third-rate Championship players. If he can beat us with that lot or get a draw against us, then shame on us.”

“Lambert will want to get one over on us as well. It will be interesting to see what sort of reception he gets at Villa Park”, “In principle, this one should be a win and that makes me nervous all on its own”, “After nearly getting properly mauled by the Tigers, we risk getting ploughed by the Tractors.”

One Villa fan reflected on distant days… “I would have struggled to believe that our visitors would be bottom of this league and we would be in the bottom half of it 38 years after we did battle with each other to be champions of England. We were really the two best teams in England back then.

“Although Ipswich fans have always had difficulty in accepting it, we were the best of the two teams having won the Championship trophy by four clear points.”
Didn't we beat them 3 times that season

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Post by marko69 » Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:10 pm

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Post by Marvinbay1973 » Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:37 pm

Bluemike wrote:
Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:19 pm
Exactly SJ, we kicked their arses Three times.
Sorry missed this one before I replied on Hallam's post

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Post by patthegimp » Sat Jan 26, 2019 1:54 pm

Ever optimistic- go for 3-1 Town.

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