Premier League - Ipswich Town vs Aston Villa Preview & Matchday Thread

[Charnwood]

Never seen this be done before

Are you kidding Lucy, where the hell have you been for the last few years Lucy

[lucy]

Never seen this be done before

are you kidding Lucy, where the hell have you been for the last few years Lucy

People on Twtd calling him a draught excluder

[Charnwood]

It’s been happening regularly in English football for the past few years and started after a spectacular goal scored when the line all jumped and the ball was rifled in the back of the net underneath them, it may have been scored by Liverpool’s Suarez. I say this because I think the first time it happened in the modern era was in a UEFA game in 2018 when Suarez was taking a free kick soon after scoring one using this strategy in a previous game.

Searching for when it started I find that Danny Blanchflower claims to be the first to use this strategy in 1957 although to be fair Lucy I’d never seen it until the last few years.

[RRanger]

Villa players threw themselves thd whole game. Booking for Town players ...rarely given against Villa players when they fouled us!
[/quote
It's something we're going to have to get used to in the Premier League.I think you'll find that most Premier League players go down when touched, especially from behind. And Morsy is going to have to learn, especially after getting a yellow not to give the ref. any excuse for a second yellow. I watched the Man U/Spurs match straight afterwards and the ref in that match would definitely have given Sam a second yellow. I'm not particularly keen on Attwell as a ref. but he was kind to Morsy today.

[lucy]

It’s been happening regularly in English football for the past two years and started after a spectacular goal scored when the line all jumped and the ball was rifled in the back of the net underneath them.

Ahh OK I don't tend to watch other Football unless it's Ipswich so had never seen it be done before

[hallamblue]

Villa players threw themselves thd whole game. Booking for Town players ...rarely given against Villa players when they fouled us!
[/quote
It's something we're going to have to get used to in the Premier League.I think you'll find that most Premier League players go down when touched, especially from behind. And Morsy is going to have to learn, especially after getting a yellow not to give the ref. any excuse for a second yellow. I watched the Man U/Spurs match straight afterwards and the ref in that match would definitely have given Sam a second yellow. I'm not particularly keen on Attwell as a ref. but he was kind to Morsy today.

I agree with you on thst tbh. Attwell isn't that good a ref IMHO, but you're right, our players have to learn quickly ....and play the game the same tbh ( not that well get given those fouls).... everything seems tilted towards the so called bigger club ..

[Andym]

Tend to agree with a lot that’s been said. Villa dominated the ball first half but apart from the goals we didn’t give them much of a chance. First goal terrible error, second goal excellent cross but with 2 defenders and a keeper he shouldn’t be allowed a free header in the 6 yard box. Much improved second half, we were the better side but either side could have won.
Some good Ipswich performances and we deserved at least a point. Until this season I never believed that the top sides get the breaks but again today I was disappointed by the ref. I thought he actually got nearly every decision right, it’s just the yellow cards that frustrate me. I wouldn’t argue about the ones he gave us, but Villa were quite cynical in breaking up play and received just one yellow I think - and our players pretty well told him to give it. The Liverpool game was much the same.
They also seemed to target Morsy after his booking, going down every time he challenged - but that actually probably backfired and saved him picking up a second yellow when he did deserve it.
A very good performance, 4 unbeaten now, but we really could do with a win to move us to a safer position.
Bournemouth v Southampton tomorrow. If Southampton win, they’ll be level on points with us. If Bournemouth win, there’s a big gap developing between the bottom 7 and the rest. A long way to go yet.

[AzzurroMark]

And still BBC would rather show Man U's humiliation as their first featured game on MOTD.

[Charnwood]

And still BBC would rather show Man U's humiliation as their first featured game on MOTD.

Don’t they always play the late game first ?

[AzzurroMark]

And still BBC would rather show Man U's humiliation as their first featured game on MOTD.

Don’t they always play the late game first ?

You might have a point, I'm not sure on that one. Fair play Ipswich got a lot of analysis time after the game. No mention of our defensive lapse for the first villa goal, nor Morsy only getting a single yellow, so it was all very positive.

[Charnwood]

And still BBC would rather show Man U's humiliation as their first featured game on MOTD.

Don’t they always play the late game first ?

You might have a point, I'm not sure on that one. Fair play Ipswich got a lot of analysis time after the game. No mention of our defensive lapse for the first villa goal, nor Morsy only getting a single yellow, so it was all very positive.

I must admit I was very impressed with how complimentary the pundits were about our play and it was totally unanimous.

[Mariner67]

Very pleased with the way we played today, Delap just gets better & better,win against the spamers,we will be flying

[arana peligrosa]

We now got draw games against Brighton and AVFC, both teams are going to be good this season and can challenge. Those alone represent a good set of scores for us and today, we could just have easily won but guess most fans there settled for the point and took a certain amount of pride from it.

McKenna won't or can't change the start formation, it's pretty much as you are every time we go out, (and) believe so long as we're taking points from it such as today there's no chance at all he'll consider changing. Two opening games aside the manager must clearly see there's a way forward there and it's brings a certain reward but would hope to see at least two in direct attack every now and again. We went to all the trouble of bringing in Smodzics and he didn't even get to start. Not sure why some of our more influential players such as Burns and Chaplin were reduced to substitute selection, maybe they weren't entirely match fit but they're just the sort of players that ideally should be starting, if available.

In truth we haven't won a game as yet, but as always the caliber of opposition teams we've had to face thus far was always going to present certain difficulties. There has to be a number of positives to take from today, at times we showed idea and creativity. One last time we could just have easily won it but it's four unbeaten and we got points now against teams some would insist we have no right to. Was skeptical of Delap when coming in, wondered what we were doing with such a player but credit to the kid he did well out there and went a long way to getting this result for us.

[QldBlue]

Really optimistic after that performance, particularly 2nd half. Some random observations:
Leif looks like he’s starting to acclimatize to this level.
Phillips so important us.
Fears about creating scoring opportunities out the window now.
Great to see the understanding developing with the new players.

Don’t want to get carried away but this is the first game where I thought we looked proper Premier League.

[QldBlue]

….and also, 10 corners to nil.
That’s a weird one!

[Bluemike]

Really optimistic after that performance, particularly 2nd half. Some random observations:
Leif looks like he’s starting to acclimatize to this level.
Phillips so important us.
Fears about creating scoring opportunities out the window now.
Great to see the understanding developing with the new players.

Don’t want to get carried away but this is the first game where I thought we looked proper Premier League.

We were talking about Davis at the game, he is without question getting better after a tough start, yesterday I thought he was excellent and caused them problems going forward, some of his first touches were sublime.

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

McKenna won't or can't change the start formation, it's pretty much as you are every time we go out, (and) believe so long as we're taking points from it such as today there's no chance at all he'll consider changing. Two opening games aside the manager must clearly see there's a way forward there and it's brings a certain reward but would hope to see at least two in direct attack every now and again. We went to all the trouble of bringing in Smodzics and he didn't even get to start. Not sure why some of our more influential players such as Burns and Chaplin were reduced to substitute selection, maybe they weren't entirely match fit but they're just the sort of players that ideally should be starting, if available.

For me, yesterday was our best performance in the PL so far, and shows the training is starting to get results.
It's no secret that I hate 4-2-3-1, but that's the way KM wants to play and in all fairness it's served us well under him.
I think Chaplin and Burns will be substitutes more often than not, simply because we have better options now.

It was a good performance and result yesterday, with Delap, Davis, and Phillips particularly impressive.
My only concern is our play down the right hand side - the last 2 games we've used Ogbene and Burns and they have created absolutely nothing between them, I think it's time to try and redress that by seeing what Hutchinson can do there.

[Charnwood]

Really optimistic after that performance, particularly 2nd half. Some random observations:
Leif looks like he’s starting to acclimatize to this level.
Phillips so important us.
Fears about creating scoring opportunities out the window now.
Great to see the understanding developing with the new players.

Don’t want to get carried away but this is the first game where I thought we looked proper Premier League.

We were talking about Davis at the game, he is without question getting better after a tough start, yesterday I thought he was excellent and caused them problems going forward, some of his first touches were sublime.

The key to Leif Davis performance yesterday was having both Kalvin Phillips and Jack Clarke in the team. The three of them combined brilliantly down the left both defensively and and in attack finding space and pace. Behind MOTM Delap I think the three of them were our next best individual performances yesterday. Hopefully the three of them will all start next week.

[hallamblue]

100% agree re his attacking attributes, but I also feel the defensive side of his game is improving, which had been a weakness in his armoury.

[Charnwood]

100% agree re his attacking attributes, but I also feel the defensive side of his game is improving, which had been a weakness in his armoury.

Defensively Liz he’s so much better when Phillips is close by talking to him and backing him up. I think it just boosts his confidence.