Premier League - Ipswich Town vs Southampton FC Preview & Matchday Thread

[marko69]

His blunders are a recurring theme though. I'll add that.

But you are very correct. The team operates as a unit......., if they're fluffing chances --->> that counts as well.

Edit: Hibs should've won 5-0 today......, but Boyle thinks he's Messi.

[MMJR67]

Muric is not the scapegoat.. Did you see the game?

We didn't win because we didn't take our chances.. That's down to good goalkeeping from Ramsdale and some poor finishing


We lost the game through Muric for totally fumbling the only two real shots Southampton had on goal.. Not hard saves at all

Never miss a match , blame the players who should keep it away from our goal.

That's a rather pathetic reply, in the main the defenders did. Look at the stats. Didn't think in the main the defenders had a bad game.. No matter what team or how good the team is the opposition will still have chances. The thing is Southampton had only really two chances, even they were not great especially the chance for the winning goal. Muric totally and utterly fumbled a routine shot that should of been bread and butter

Pathetic, who are you to assume your opinion is of greater significance than mine ?

I appreciate your opinion. enjoy the debate.

[Steve and Jo]

To assume no team should have chances is rather dreaming. Every team have chances during most games. Typical examplr Ipswich even did against Liverpool which we scored from one. Remember Hurst header though, straight at the Liverpool keeper? Well the keeper easily saved it. For me the two chances Southampton had should of been easily saved also, especially the second

[WarsawBlue]

Who decided they knew better than Burnley when they bought that goalkeeper?! It would have been better to persuade Bart to try a couple more years! Based on that performance, if the three weakest teams in the PL are relegated we should be one of them.

[hallamblue]

Muric is a car crash, sorry but that really IS a fact. We KNEW before we before we got him of his frailties, yet we still paid waaaaay
over the odds for a decidedly dodgy keeper( granted he wasn’t our primary target), but bloody hell, why keep playing him?? Put Slicker in goal now. Oh, and add a GK to that 2-3 incoming players. I hope that 2or3 players includes
A striker
A physical commanding Midfielder ( Morsy is shot)
A Keeper

[Bluemike]

I tried to tell everyone back in the summer but as usual they knew best.

[MMJR67]

To assume no team should have chances is rather dreaming. Every team have chances during most games. Typical examplr Ipswich even did against Liverpool which we scored from one. Remember Hurst header though, straight at the Liverpool keeper? Well the keeper easily saved it. For me the two chances Southampton had should of been easily saved also, especially the second

dust your gloves off and give it a go, you probably could do as good Muric.

I am not a fan of his by any means, not a fan of Walton either.

[Steve and Jo]

I tried to tell everyone back in the summer but as usual they knew best.

Mike, its not about who knows best, during the summer or most of it I was in hospital unable to post much, especially late summer. Having said that I don't know better than anybody, i'm sure we would all love to praise every player including Muric though.

Its not nice reading this tonight and i'm certainly not enjoying writing it. Again today in the main I considered the defenders played okay, the goalkeeper is part of the defence and today i thought he didn't have his best game.. How's that put?

[Steve and Jo]

To assume no team should have chances is rather dreaming. Every team have chances during most games. Typical examplr Ipswich even did against Liverpool which we scored from one. Remember Hurst header though, straight at the Liverpool keeper? Well the keeper easily saved it. For me the two chances Southampton had should of been easily saved also, especially the second

dust your gloves off and give it a go, you probably could do as good Muric.

I am not a fan of his by any means, not a fan of Walton either.

No, i'm nowhere his class but there again I don't get paid his wages. This is not having a go at you. We are all rather upset for today was great opportunity to move up the league. I am sorry if i come across like its personal against you because it isn't

[MMJR67]

To assume no team should have chances is rather dreaming. Every team have chances during most games. Typical examplr Ipswich even did against Liverpool which we scored from one. Remember Hurst header though, straight at the Liverpool keeper? Well the keeper easily saved it. For me the two chances Southampton had should of been easily saved also, especially the second

dust your gloves off and give it a go, you probably could do as good Muric.

I am not a fan of his by any means, not a fan of Walton either.

No, i'm nowhere his class but there again I don't get paid his wages. This is not having a go at you. We are all rather upset for today was great opportunity to move up the league. I am sorry if i come across like its personal against you because it isn't

I take nothing personally, I do enjoy the conversation with people who share a 50 year passion with me.

Win or lose ,we all want the same thing.
We will also continue to see things differently.
This forum would be useless without these interactions.

[Steve and Jo]

dust your gloves off and give it a go, you probably could do as good Muric.

I am not a fan of his by any means, not a fan of Walton either.

No, i'm nowhere his class but there again I don't get paid his wages. This is not having a go at you. We are all rather upset for today was great opportunity to move up the league. I am sorry if i come across like its personal against you because it isn't

I take nothing personally, I do enjoy the conversation with people who share a 50 year passion with me.

Win or lose ,we all want the same thing.
We will also continue to see things differently.
This forum would be useless without these interactions.

That I totally agree with, well said

[Bluemike]

I tried to tell everyone back in the summer but as usual they knew best.

Mike, its not about who knows best, during the summer or most of it I was in hospital unable to post much, especially late summer. Having said that I don't know better than anybody, i'm sure we would all love to praise every player including Muric though.

Its not nice reading this tonight and i'm certainly not enjoying writing it. Again today in the main I considered the defenders played okay, the goalkeeper is part of the defence and today i thought he didn't have his best game.. How's that put?

No it's not about who knows best, sometimes we get it right and sometimes wrong but I made the point when we were linked with Muric that I did not want him or rate him and that i believed he was useless and a bad signing, quite a few had an opinion on my comments, the rest is history

[Steve and Jo]

I tried to tell everyone back in the summer but as usual they knew best.

Mike, its not about who knows best, during the summer or most of it I was in hospital unable to post much, especially late summer. Having said that I don't know better than anybody, i'm sure we would all love to praise every player including Muric though.

Its not nice reading this tonight and i'm certainly not enjoying writing it. Again today in the main I considered the defenders played okay, the goalkeeper is part of the defence and today i thought he didn't have his best game.. How's that put?

No it's not about who knows best, sometimes we get it right and sometimes wrong but I made the point when we were linked with Muric that I did not want him or rate him and that i believed he was useless and a bad signing, quite a few had an opinion on my comments, the rest is history

Unfortunately thus far you seem to be right.. Don't like saying it though

[ITFC2024]

Well we’ve missed another opportunity to move up in the table. Like I said already, I’m pretty sure that’s the final nail in the coffin.

I’ve been a huge fan of McKenna’s, but I’ve not been impressed with his stubbornness. Its been obvious for a while our tactics and formations don’t and won’t work in the Premier League.

I thought Muric may have had something to prove after being dropped, but he’ll never be a good goal keeper…and we paid 10-mil plus for him. I hope KM at least experiments for the remainder of the season. I’m really fed up to be honest. We started the campaign with so much desire and confidence, but now it has become difficult for me to witness our inferiority.

[lucy]

I got to my Seat late so I didn't know the Team. As soon as I heard Muric was playing, I said to the Guy next to me that we will lose this.

Have Faith he says. Come FT I look at him and said I told you so. He just stormed off.

[ATB]

Slicker would become the new scapegoat for all the other cracks

Muric is not the scapegoat.. Did you see the game?

We didn't win because we didn't take our chances.. That's down to good goalkeeping from Ramsdale and some poor finishing


We lost the game through Muric for totally fumbling the only two real shots Southampton had on goal.. Not hard saves at all

Agreed

Should’ve provably had 3 by half time

We still only scored 1 goal at home against the team coming last with the worst defence.

[arana peligrosa]

Caught highlights, got some action or what they bothered to show. Right off the bat that's a sh*t lousy result.

If you can't beat that garbage with a home advantage and match of such paramount importance then what's the use.

Muric partially at fault for their second. Caught the ball at an angle but seemed to fumble. A more competent name would have smothered it or made it safe but the player's had a number of f*ck ups so really nothing new. Would Slicker have been better, kind of academic after the event.

That was a game tailor made for us at least in terms of three points but we've f*cked up probably not for the first time. Can't or unable to enjoy time back in the top league. One or two standout results aside it's been mostly garbage. It's a shame and regrettable but simple truth here McKenna appears unsuitable for management at the topmost level.

An embarrassing score, and opportunity missed. Feel kind of ashamed in a sense. Three points seemed on a plate. f*ck it.

[marko69]

I got to my Seat late so I didn't know the Team. As soon as I heard Muric was playing, I said to the Guy next to me that we will lose this.

Have Faith he says. Come FT I look at him and said I told you so. He just stormed off.

And the moral of the story is:

Never go to the fitbaw wi Lucy!

Not great saying, "we will lose this" .....

...., but PLEASE tell us you didn't say "I told you so!"

He stormed off, Lucille and you'll never see him again! He'll see you at a game and he'll be like, "Aw no! It's her!! I'll stand at the pie-stall!"

[lucy]

I got to my Seat late so I didn't know the Team. As soon as I heard Muric was playing, I said to the Guy next to me that we will lose this.

Have Faith he says. Come FT I look at him and said I told you so. He just stormed off.

And the moral of the story is:

Never go to the fitbaw wi Lucy!

Not great saying, "we will lose this" .....

...., but PLEASE tell us you didn't say "I told you so!"

He stormed off, Lucille and you'll never see him again! He'll see you at a game and he'll be like, "Aw no! It's her!! I'll stand at the pie-stall!"

Yes I said I told you so. It's bad I know but Muric is awful and I don't see us winning anything with him between the Sticks.

And I'll see him next Home Game as he has a Season Ticket

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

The team operates as a unit.......,

No, they don't. And therein lies the problem.

[Bluemike]

dust your gloves off and give it a go, you probably could do as good Muric.

I am not a fan of his by any means, not a fan of Walton either.

No, i'm nowhere his class but there again I don't get paid his wages. This is not having a go at you. We are all rather upset for today was great opportunity to move up the league. I am sorry if i come across like its personal against you because it isn't

I take nothing personally, I do enjoy the conversation with people who share a 50 year passion with me.

Win or lose ,we all want the same thing.
We will also continue to see things differently.
This forum would be useless without these interactions.

For some reason I had you down as a youngish guy, you old git !

[Mach_Polish_Blue]

135M spent and we were utterly toothless and hopeless against one of the worst opposition Premier League will have ever seen. We have barely made their goalkeeper and defence work.

Our very bad recruirment + McKenna being out of his depth in this league are the reason of our predicament.

His signings may be the good Premier League players in the future but some of them were signed at the wrong time. And as things stand they have no fight in their balls. They are with us for the money, for the Premier League wages.

Home form ought to be the key for any promoted team and our own one is disastrous. Countless home defeats. One home win in February. How on earth can we expect to stay up then?

I've lost all my hopes. There is no way we deserve to be in this league.

[hallamblue]

The team operates as a unit.......,

No, they don't. And therein lies the problem.

They certainly didn’t yesterday Gary. I kept saying to Mike, we’re so disjointed, and every time a Town player got the ball, they ran half the length of the pitch with the ball, trying to go for goal on their own. It happened consistently throughout the game , why?

I think it’s because we have virtually no n midfield, and it’s certainly not effective in linking up defence with attack anymore. The whole team is very lopsided now. There’s no continuity from game to game in terms of who is playing , but McKenna still maintains the same approach despite the fact that it clearly is well managed by opposing teams now, Yet he doesn’t change our shape, just players playing in the shape he insists on.

We NEED 3 players in through the door Monday, a GK, a stronger playmaker in MF, and of course a physically built striker. Will we get them? I hope so, but I’m realistic that we might only get 2 out of the 3.

[Bluemike]

I don't think we'll get any tbh, not a cat in hells chance of another keeper, please prove me wrong cus I'd rather have the limbless Knight from the Monty Python scene than Muric.

[Ricco]

If Muric was crap before his hiatus, he'll be far worse now. He lost the backing of his manager, his confidence will be shot.

Yesterday wasn't a must win mathematically, but wow has it turned climbing a small mountain in to climbing Everest blindfolded.

I think it's pathetic, to see a team who has performed admirably for reasonable periods this season, to lose in the way they have in recent weeks.

[Blue Wilf]

I can't see any new additions, sadly. We have spent our money on the same player over and over (clark, Hutchinson, philogene, szmodics etc) yet are any of them that much more effective than say, Chaplin? I don't think so. Best bit of business other than Delap for me was O'Shea and Cajuste. The rest have been average at best. If KM says he can't see any more then that is probably the answer.

[Bluemike]

Agreed, Delap and O'Shea are head and tail above the rest, Cajuste has good games but also missing in others, I think Enciso will be a very good addition too.

[hallamblue]

If Muric was crap before his hiatus, he'll be far worse now. He lost the backing of his manager, his confidence will be shot.

Yesterday wasn't a must win mathematically, but wow has it turned climbing a small mountain in to climbing Everest blindfolded.

I think it's pathetic, to see a team who has performed admirably for reasonable periods this season, to lose in the way they have in recent weeks.

It’s almost coincided with this window hasnt it. Players in, players out, unsettling. Loss of continuity in the pitch due to half the team being changed each game as he attempts to reduce the damage against the top clubs. Plus, maybe the players are starting to feel deflated given the amount of games we’ve lost .

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

Yes, Delap O'Shea and Cajuste the only decent players brought in - simply not enough class or experience in our recruitment.
Couple that with an inexperienced stubborn manager, and it's a recipe for disaster (as is being proved).

I think that if we lose to Coventry next week, GC will finally lose patience with KM.

[hallamblue]

I th8nk he’s got a free hit this season Gary, we weren’t expected to get promot3d and I do wonder if our recruitment since promotion was already planned and we’ve gone ahead with despite being in the PL. ie recruitment was targeting this season as we coerced to be in the Championship, because then our recruitment makes more sense, young 20yr olds looking for further development over the next 3cseasin and which were never intended to be PL level , now.