Premier League - Ipswich Town vs Southampton FC Preview & Matchday Thread

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A must win fixture?

Ipswich Win
11
73%
Southampton Win
1
7%
Draw
3
20%
 
Total votes: 15

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Post by Ricco » Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:14 pm

MMJR67 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:12 pm
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Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:05 pm
Why on earth have we not been looking for a new keeper in this window, major failure all round
Why on earth did we not spend the millions on a playmaking midfielder ?
Answer to both questions is that someone at the club thinks its smart to have 58 wide forwards in the squad and that it's fine to be left with poor options in every other posistion.

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Post by mendipblue » Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:19 pm

ashfordblue wrote: โ†‘
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Put Slicker between the sticks don't ever play Muric again
Agree, he cant do any worse๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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Post by mendipblue » Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:20 pm

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Muric single handedly relegating us with the ridiculous number of big mistakes. ๐Ÿคฌ๐Ÿคฌ๐Ÿคฌ
Yes, he has ๐Ÿซฃ

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Post by Ricco » Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:23 pm

Let me rephrase my previous post... we have spent ยฃ150m on players this season. ยฃ80m of that was spent on wide forwards... just 2 positions.

Wide forwards make up 18% of the team and we have spent 53% of our transfer funds on them.

Goalkeeper is a massively important posistion in a fight for survival season... just 6% of our spend went on Muric and we splurge on Philogene in January and leave him on the bench rather than put that towards another keeper.

Centre Midfield another hugely important posistion... we spend 1% in that area.

There's complexity to all of that, but I still feel recruitment has failed us massively. Beyond Delap, who has performed above their valuation?

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Post by MMJR67 » Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:30 pm

Ricco wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:14 pm
MMJR67 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:12 pm
JamessB wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:05 pm
Why on earth have we not been looking for a new keeper in this window, major failure all round
Why on earth did we not spend the millions on a playmaking midfielder ?
Answer to both questions is that someone at the club thinks its smart to have 58 wide forwards in the squad and that it's fine to be left with poor options in every other posistion.
totally agree.

If we didn't play two defensive midfielders , scored more goals.no one would even think about the keeper.

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Post by hallamblue » Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:03 pm

Town bottle it yet again in a "must win " game. No shivk there, really. But for the love of God, can we please ship Muric out.
I have missed the rule change where it is forbidden to play Delap and Hirst in the same team? It would gave worth a TRY today second half. ... nothing!

I think we will have no concerns re a big club coming in for McKenna, he's showing himself to be tactically naive at this level, and either incapable or unwilling to change the SHAPE of the team.

We're far too lightweight all over the park. No continuity to our play ( to many changes every game), and sadly Morsy now looks a spent force in midfield (we have no midfield IMHO) and we must surely look to get a 10 years younger version of him .

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Post by Blue Wilf » Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:13 pm

Trying to not knee jerk here. S'ton were awful. First half we should have had a hatful.

Anyone who continues to defend Muric is seriously deluded - he is not fit to play for our club and never has been. Yes, there were defensive lapses too but he is awful and it is clear that his defensive line do not trust him either.

Hutch is too lightweight - have said it bwfore the season started when we signed him for ยฃ20 but it is fact. Asd to that, clark and philogene who are both as ineffective as each other. We have wasted money. Tuanzebe was also caught out a few times today. They had a donkey up front but had 2 shots and scored 2 goals. Broadhead could have had a first half hat trick but he wants too much time and you don't get it in this league.

Most frustrating to me is that we have Hutch, Delap and now Enciso. I like them all but they want to do too much and win the game on their own - again, in this league, they are not good enough to do that.

If anything, as a team, we have added players but actually look worse. It may change in time but we don't have time. We are odds on to go down now and for me, much of the failure sits squarely on our own shoulders and more than a small amount on those of KM. he has been found out in this league but will learn eventually. That won't benefit us as he will move on but for me, it is fact.

So, there you have it. We may fluke enough unexpected points to overcome Wolves but at present, we don't look to have the urgency nor the belief we had at the start of the season. We also lack quality and are too lightweight. We are running out of time and for our manager to say there are no must won games is also deluded. There are and today was one of them - we lost. I won't be too disappointed with going back to the Championship as I have expressed before but I will be disappointed that we have been the architects of our own failure. That is the true disappointment.

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Post by Bluemike » Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:18 pm

Steve and Jo wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:47 pm
F**KING MURIC
And people defend him lol.

We are going down, we are a f**king car crash of a team who are getting worse, who are not good enough, who have bought poorly and who have a manager out of his depth and who is totally clueless at changing a game, he's a one trick pony.

Muric is the the worst keeper we've ever had, Two things to do and cost us two goals from their only Two attacks. We needed to change things at 1-2 down and yet Hirst doesn't even get off the bench. I'm sick of it, I'm sick of the predictability, I'm sick of having no plan B whatsoever. I know the delicate ones among us will hate this but I'm sick of McKenna, he's taken us as far as he can, its boring and we are going backwards. To go into this game of the opinion it wasn't must win says it all, too f**king casual. I'm not interested in the achievements of the last Two seasons cus it means nothing now.

I can take losing, I'm actually used to it but I'm sick of the same old same old stuff, its not a process, it's bollocks and if people can't see it I'm at a loss for words.

Is the next one a must win ? Or the next one ? Or the one after that? It's only that Two or Three others teams are sh*te too that is stopping us from being cut adrift

f**king pissed off doesn't come close.

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Post by Bluemike » Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:19 pm

Steve and Jo wrote: โ†‘
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But Muric only needed to make two saves, both he fumbled
Cus he's a f**king wanker, I wish he had Burns injury

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Post by Blue Wilf » Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:26 pm

Bluemike wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:18 pm
Steve and Jo wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:47 pm
F**KING MURIC
And people defend him lol.

We are going down, we are a f**king car crash of a team who are getting worse, who are not good enough, who have bought poorly and who have a manager out of his depth and who is totally clueless at changing a game, he's a one trick pony.

Muric is the the worst keeper we've ever had, Two things to do and cost us two goals from their only Two attacks. We needed to change things at 1-2 down and yet Hirst doesn't even get off the bench. I'm sick of it, I'm sick of the predictability, I'm sick of having no plan B whatsoever. I know the delicate ones among us will hate this but I'm sick of McKenna, he's taken us as far as he can, its boring and we are going backwards. To go into this game of the opinion it wasn't must win says it all, too f**king casual. I'm not interested in the achievements of the last Two seasons cus it means nothing now.

I can take losing, I'm actually used to it but I'm sick of the same old same old stuff, its not a process, it's bollocks and if people can't see it I'm at a loss for words.

Is the next one a must win ? Or the next one ? Or the one after that? It's only that Two or Three others teams are sh*te too that is stopping us from being cut adrift

f**king pissed off doesn't come close.
That is what I wanted to say, Mike but was trying to be diplomatic! Very pissed off cos we bottled it - again. McKenna is totally a one trick pony. Look at Moyes back at Everton and making a difference - what we could do with an experienced head in this league...

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Post by MMJR67 » Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:34 pm

Blue Wilf wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:13 pm
Trying to not knee jerk here. S'ton were awful. First half we should have had a hatful.

Anyone who continues to defend Muric is seriously deluded - he is not fit to play for our club and never has been. Yes, there were defensive lapses too but he is awful and it is clear that his defensive line do not trust him either.

Hutch is too lightweight - have said it bwfore the season started when we signed him for ยฃ20 but it is fact. Asd to that, clark and philogene who are both as ineffective as each other. We have wasted money. Tuanzebe was also caught out a few times today. They had a donkey up front but had 2 shots and scored 2 goals. Broadhead could have had a first half hat trick but he wants too much time and you don't get it in this league.

Most frustrating to me is that we have Hutch, Delap and now Enciso. I like them all but they want to do too much and win the game on their own - again, in this league, they are not good enough to do that.

If anything, as a team, we have added players but actually look worse. It may change in time but we don't have time. We are odds on to go down now and for me, much of the failure sits squarely on our own shoulders and more than a small amount on those of KM. he has been found out in this league but will learn eventually. That won't benefit us as he will move on but for me, it is fact.

So, there you have it. We may fluke enough unexpected points to overcome Wolves but at present, we don't look to have the urgency nor the belief we had at the start of the season. We also lack quality and are too lightweight. We are running out of time and for our manager to say there are no must won games is also deluded. There are and today was one of them - we lost. I won't be too disappointed with going back to the Championship as I have expressed before but I will be disappointed that we have been the architects of our own failure. That is the true disappointment.
all valid points, better midfield, score more and keeper is less of an issue .

The problems are obvious. Just not good enough and there is no need for some to get bent out of shape over facts.

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Post by marko69 » Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:48 pm

Blue Wilf wrote: โ†‘
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If anything, as a team, we have added players but actually look worse. It may change in time but we don't have time.
That is certainly one point in your post that is accurate. Dreaded gel word may be in action. To have so many chances and not score more; could be a communication problem. It has been fixed in the past, --->>> but this being the EPL, arguably the best league in the world and could probably blow Muric's head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question --->> will they get lucky? Do you think they will......., Wilf?

(Apologies, watched some Clint last night)

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Post by Blue Wilf » Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:49 pm

marko69 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:48 pm
Blue Wilf wrote: โ†‘
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If anything, as a team, we have added players but actually look worse. It may change in time but we don't have time.
That is certainly one point in your post that is accurate. Dreaded gel word may be in action. To have so many chances and not score more; could be a communication problem. It has been fixed in the past, --->>> but this being the EPL, arguably the best league in the world and could probably blow Muric's head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question --->> will they get lucky? Do you think they will......., Wilf?

(Apologies, watched some Clint last night)
Not a cat in hells chance, sadly!

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Post by mendipblue » Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:52 pm

Bluemike wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:18 pm
Steve and Jo wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:47 pm
F**KING MURIC
And people defend him lol.

We are going down, we are a f**king car crash of a team who are getting worse, who are not good enough, who have bought poorly and who have a manager out of his depth and who is totally clueless at changing a game, he's a one trick pony.

Muric is the the worst keeper we've ever had, Two things to do and cost us two goals from their only Two attacks. We needed to change things at 1-2 down and yet Hirst doesn't even get off the bench. I'm sick of it, I'm sick of the predictability, I'm sick of having no plan B whatsoever. I know the delicate ones among us will hate this but I'm sick of McKenna, he's taken us as far as he can, its boring and we are going backwards. To go into this game of the opinion it wasn't must win says it all, too f**king casual. I'm not interested in the achievements of the last Two seasons cus it means nothing now.

I can take losing, I'm actually used to it but I'm sick of the same old same old stuff, its not a process, it's bollocks and if people can't see it I'm at a loss for words.

Is the next one a must win ? Or the next one ? Or the one after that? It's only that Two or Three others teams are sh*te too that is stopping us from being cut adrift

f**king pissed off doesn't come close.
Hirst did come on, but did not touch it because we f*cked about with it in our half instead of launching it to our two strikers. Unbelievable ๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿซฃ

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Post by Cabanas Blue » Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:55 pm

Blue Wilf said.
Moyes back at Everton and making a difference - what we could do with an experienced head in this league...

But Everton just can't score goals they only scored 4 today, what a difference he's made.
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Post by Bluemike » Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:11 pm

mendipblue wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:52 pm
Bluemike wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 7:18 pm
Steve and Jo wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 5:47 pm
F**KING MURIC
And people defend him lol.

We are going down, we are a f**king car crash of a team who are getting worse, who are not good enough, who have bought poorly and who have a manager out of his depth and who is totally clueless at changing a game, he's a one trick pony.

Muric is the the worst keeper we've ever had, Two things to do and cost us two goals from their only Two attacks. We needed to change things at 1-2 down and yet Hirst doesn't even get off the bench. I'm sick of it, I'm sick of the predictability, I'm sick of having no plan B whatsoever. I know the delicate ones among us will hate this but I'm sick of McKenna, he's taken us as far as he can, its boring and we are going backwards. To go into this game of the opinion it wasn't must win says it all, too f**king casual. I'm not interested in the achievements of the last Two seasons cus it means nothing now.

I can take losing, I'm actually used to it but I'm sick of the same old same old stuff, its not a process, it's bollocks and if people can't see it I'm at a loss for words.

Is the next one a must win ? Or the next one ? Or the one after that? It's only that Two or Three others teams are sh*te too that is stopping us from being cut adrift

f**king pissed off doesn't come close.
Hirst did come on, but did not touch it because we f*cked about with it in our half instead of launching it to our two strikers. Unbelievable ๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿซฃ
Yeah i meant he should have come on when we had a small chance of salvaging something

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Post by Cabanas Blue » Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:22 pm

KMc says Walton will be out for several weeks, a new keeper needed before deadline I think.

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Post by marko69 » Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:24 pm

Slicker must be unbelievable shyte on a whole new level......, worse than Muric.

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Post by mendipblue » Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:25 pm

KMck just said Walton will be out "for a lot of weeks" . Get a new keeper in by Monday or play Slicker. But definitely never play that tosser Muric ever again ๐Ÿ™„

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Post by MMJR67 » Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:29 pm

Slicker would become the new scapegoat for all the other cracks

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Post by Bluemike » Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:42 pm

He's not a,scapegoat, he's brought the criticism on himself by being unbelievably sh*te every game

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Post by JohnnyB » Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:43 pm

And there it is, wolves win 2-0 to cap a horrendous day at the office. Thankfully, maybe, I was oblivious, laughing with Bill Bailey in London, checked my phone at 5pm...s#it!

I've been TTP, messiah, whatever but now? Honestly, do we have even a chance of staying up if we continue like this? My opinion, your opinion, it doesn't matter really, but gamechanger, do they want their asset bundle taking a tumble in May? Will they put the pressure on to try something different? My feeling is we're not there yet but nothing from the next three, it's time to think the unthinkable.

Apologies for booze laced post.

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Post by Steve and Jo » Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:43 pm

MMJR67 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:29 pm
Slicker would become the new scapegoat for all the other cracks
Muric is not the scapegoat.. Did you see the game?

We didn't win because we didn't take our chances.. That's down to good goalkeeping from Ramsdale and some poor finishing


We lost the game through Muric for totally fumbling the only two real shots Southampton had on goal.. Not hard saves at all

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Post by MMJR67 » Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:44 pm

Bluemike wrote: โ†‘
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He's not a,scapegoat, he's brought the criticism on himself by being unbelievably sh*te every game

yes, he is.

Allison would look average with half of this squad in front of him.

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Post by MMJR67 » Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:47 pm

Steve and Jo wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:43 pm
MMJR67 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:29 pm
Slicker would become the new scapegoat for all the other cracks
Muric is not the scapegoat.. Did you see the game?

We didn't win because we didn't take our chances.. That's down to good goalkeeping from Ramsdale and some poor finishing


We lost the game through Muric for totally fumbling the only two real shots Southampton had on goal.. Not hard saves at all
Never miss a match , blame the players who should keep it away from our goal.

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Post by marko69 » Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:51 pm

MMJR67 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:47 pm
Steve and Jo wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:43 pm
MMJR67 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:29 pm
Slicker would become the new scapegoat for all the other cracks
Muric is not the scapegoat.. Did you see the game?

We didn't win because we didn't take our chances.. That's down to good goalkeeping from Ramsdale and some poor finishing


We lost the game through Muric for totally fumbling the only two real shots Southampton had on goal.. Not hard saves at all
Never miss a match , blame the players who should keep it away from our goal.
You are reaching ever so slightly with this MM67. :lol: A defence works slightly better knowing they have a very good LAST line in defence --->> the keeper. But he is definitely a tad crap. You must see that?

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Post by Bluemike » Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:53 pm

MMJR67 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:47 pm
Steve and Jo wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:43 pm
MMJR67 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:29 pm
Slicker would become the new scapegoat for all the other cracks
Muric is not the scapegoat.. Did you see the game?

We didn't win because we didn't take our chances.. That's down to good goalkeeping from Ramsdale and some poor finishing


We lost the game through Muric for totally fumbling the only two real shots Southampton had on goal.. Not hard saves at all
Never miss a match , blame the players who should keep it away from our goal.
If every team could do that you wouldn't need a goalie, it doesn't work like that, he is there for a reason, sometimes you want your keeper to bail out the defence, ours is incapable of it.

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Post by Steve and Jo » Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:54 pm

MMJR67 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:47 pm
Steve and Jo wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:43 pm
MMJR67 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:29 pm
Slicker would become the new scapegoat for all the other cracks
Muric is not the scapegoat.. Did you see the game?

We didn't win because we didn't take our chances.. That's down to good goalkeeping from Ramsdale and some poor finishing


We lost the game through Muric for totally fumbling the only two real shots Southampton had on goal.. Not hard saves at all
Never miss a match , blame the players who should keep it away from our goal.
That's a rather pathetic reply, in the main the defenders did. Look at the stats. Didn't think in the main the defenders had a bad game.. No matter what team or how good the team is the opposition will still have chances. The thing is Southampton had only really two chances, even they were not great especially the chance for the winning goal. Muric totally and utterly fumbled a routine shot that should of been bread and butter

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Post by MMJR67 » Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:55 pm

marko69 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:51 pm
MMJR67 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:47 pm
Steve and Jo wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:43 pm


Muric is not the scapegoat.. Did you see the game?

We didn't win because we didn't take our chances.. That's down to good goalkeeping from Ramsdale and some poor finishing


We lost the game through Muric for totally fumbling the only two real shots Southampton had on goal.. Not hard saves at all
Never miss a match , blame the players who should keep it away from our goal.
You are reaching ever so slightly with this MM67. :lol: A defence works slightly better knowing they have a very good LAST line in defence --->> the keeper. But he is definitely a tad crap. You must see that?
I am not defending him, he is not premier league.

Better play down field by better players lessen's the chance a blunder matters.

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MMJR67 wrote: โ†‘
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MMJR67 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:47 pm


Never miss a match , blame the players who should keep it away from our goal.
You are reaching ever so slightly with this MM67. :lol: A defence works slightly better knowing they have a very good LAST line in defence --->> the keeper. But he is definitely a tad crap. You must see that?
I am not defending him, he is not premier league.

Better play down field by better players lessen's the chance a blunder matters.
Yep, spot on.

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