Non Ipswich transfers

[Bluemike]

I said the same thing, bloody Brentford paying that sort of money for a nobody, the game has gone mad and is completely fooked in my opinion.

[Charnwood]

"Everton are believed to have offered either English striker Ellis Simms, 22, or French forward Neal Maupay, 26, in exchange for 25-year-old English defender Scott Wharton, who plays for Blackburn Rovers. (Football Insider) "

I used to read Football Insider but to be honest so much of its content was rubbish I gave up with it. Occasionally and very occasionally they got something right. I suspect not this one.

[Charnwood]

I said the same thing, bloody Brentford paying that sort of money for a nobody, the game has gone mad and is completely fooked in my opinion.

There’s nothing much wrong with Brentford’s transfer policy.

Brentford without doubt are the transfer experts of the Premier League and have a track record second to none. In fact their business plan requires them to make an annual profit of £15m from buying and selling players at a profit.

As the club has moved up the football ladder, their transfer policy has been remarkably profitable. Brentford have shown a remarkable talent for finding undervalued players to sign at a cheap price, improving their skills on the training pitch and then selling them on for big fees.

Since 2016, Brentford have spent about £75 million on transfer fees, but recouped over £190 million in sales. Neal Maupay was signed from French side Saint-Étienne for about £1.6 million in 2017 and sold to Brighton and Hove Albion two years later for a fee in the region of £20 million. Ollie Watkins, signed from Exeter City for about £6.5 million in the same year the club signed Maupay, was sold to Aston Villa for just over £30 million in 2020. The club has also made a very healthy profit on players such as Saïd Benrahma and Andre Gray.

The profits from this transfer policy have allowed the club to build a new stadium, which they moved into in 2020, and compete for promotion to the top flight against clubs with much bigger revenue bases. With each sale, they seem able to find the next talent to fill the vacated position in the side. After losing Ollie Watkins, they bought in Ivan Toney from Peterborough. Toney finished the 2020-21 season as the top goalscorer in the Championship.

They also differentiate themselves from other clubs is by the use of Data Analytics to identify player profiles and where to find them in the UK and Europe’s lower leagues, the later where they had been most successful was scuppered by Brexit as it made it far more difficult to get players work permits.

Other clubs now using Data Analytics are Brighton, Barnsley and our very own Ipswich Town.

[Bluemike]

That's all well and good but my point is the extortionate prices being paid by any club now is immoral and will eventually do for the sport.

[marko69]

I said the same thing, bloody Brentford paying that sort of money for a nobody, the game has gone mad and is completely fooked in my opinion.

This forum has gone mad this morning. People wishing they’d moved to America.
People…… read more international news on the tinternets!

[shabba]

That's all well and good but my point is the extortionate prices being paid by any club now is immoral and will eventually do for the sport.

Yes its tricky as you can still buy for £25m and sell for £50m++ but then its a much bigger gamble. You only need a couple of bad transfer windows and a bad run and you fall through the trap door, ala Leicester.

Still its likely very hard to compete in the Prem and find cheap signings, as soon as you are a prem club the price is massively inflated.

[hallamblue]

The game is stuffed and for me mostly due to sky’s influence : they completely buggered the game up with their money , and the greed on the game by players, clubs and owners for a cut of the £££ pile

[shabba]

Also Anderson the CB from Barnsley has signed for Luton.

Seems it was around £2-3m fee, so not cheap as such.


Also I see Keogh is landed at Wycombe.
https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-new ... ns-wycombe

[shabba]

Lots going on now:

- Leeds hire Farke as their manager.

- Shef Weds hire Munoz as theirs (Not sure how he did when at watford? Probably only there for half a game knowing their owners).

- Josh Key the fullback we were linked with has signed for Swansea on a free (from Exeter).

[Bluemike]

Still very slow where we are concerned, getting our business done early is not going to happen this time, it makes me think that maybe our first choice intended targets are not being landed, with the exception of Taylor, pissing around on this Simms thing probably isn't helping.

[number 9]

Did somebody already post that Everton value Simms at 7 to 10 million?

Agree with BM, time to move on from ES asap!

[Charnwood]

Iheanacho is one of several Foxes players set to leave the club following their relegation from the Premier League and he won't be short of offers from the top division. Looks like he could be Nottingham Forest’s first signing of the Summer transfer window.

[Charnwood]

Did somebody already post that Everton value Simms at 7 to 10 million?

Agree with BM, time to move on from ES asap!

Coventry City have signed Everton striker Ellis Simms on a four-year deal for an undisclosed fee.

Simms scored seven goals on loan last season at Sunderland then once in 11 games after returning to Goodison Park.

The 22-year-old is to be a straight replacement for Viktor Gyokeres, who is now expected to complete an £18.5m move to Sporting Lisbon over the weekend.

Not a bad replacement with change to spare.

[shabba]

Wonder what the fee /add-ons were

[Charnwood]

Talking of add ons / sell on clauses I wonder what these would have been when Spurs signed our 16yr old youth player Calum Logan in April.

I’m not sure what the rules are for non professional players ?

[smaltydude]

Sonny Bradley went from PL Luton to L1 Deby

[shabba]

Great singing for derby re Bradley!

Also just saw Plymouth signed a keeper, wonder if that means cooper will be sold? One of the best league one keepers last year.

(Or still injured?)

[shabba]

Bristol city sign Knights from Derby, no surprise as we have gone with Taylor instead.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66152572

[Bluemike]

Yes saw that last night, I think Derby will be up there this season as long as they replace McGoldrick

[Cabanas Blue]

Preston have signed Will Keane from Wigan, also I don't think I've seen anything about it here but I saw the other day that Derby want Freddie he played under Paul Warns twice before I believe, it seems Town said not for sale.

[Bluemike]

Not a chance Freddie is going anywhere

[hallamblue]

I’m not sure about that Mike.

We have always been after Hirst, we know that don’t we. Then we offer money for Simms. So that indicates we were (are) after two additional strikers to Freddie.

We didn’t get Simms, but we did get Hirst. But If we had managed to sign Simms and Hirst, would Freddie still be staying or would we offload? And as we didn’t get Simms are we looking for another striker…. We were also linked to that Surrage (who I understand has now signed for a USA club - but weird given his age). So my point is we may still be looking to bring another striker in , and if that is the case would the Club be looking to keep or offload Ladapo, given we have squad restrictions of 25?

And on that last point I can still see 3-4 players leaving the club before the window closes.

[Bluemike]

We aren't gonna be getting rid of a 20 goal striker and replace with a 6 or 7 goal scorer, just ain't gonna happen, he's started pre season off with 3 goals already, only a fool would sell him.

[arana peligrosa]

Are you referring to Ladapo. He's only been with us a relative short time, doesn't appear to add up he'd want to move on or we'd be willing to sell so soon after coming in. (I) Were skeptical with early appearances, wasn't sold on the player but truth be told he's improved after a maybe slow start and, become over time, a valuable member of the squad.

With Hirst coming on board permanent we're kind of spoiled for choice in attacking options but some names seem destined to go elsewhere. We can't accommodate so many players in forward and attacking capacities.

[Bluemike]

Out and out strikers we have Two, Hirst and Ladapo, back that up with attacking midfielders in Broadhead, Chaplin and Burns and we are well stocked, I do feel we will be bringing in another striker but I definitely don't see any leaving other than Pigott although there could be a slim Chance of Jackson moving on but again he's not regarded as an out and out striker by KM.

[hallamblue]

We aren't gonna be getting rid of a 20 goal striker and replace with a 6 or 7 goal scorer, just ain't gonna happen, he's started pre season off with 3 goals already, only a fool would sell him.

I’m just not sure he’s got it in his locker to make that step up Mike. He’s a good league one striker, but at 30years old I think the club might not want to keep him if they get another younger striker in who they feel they can develop (like Hirst), or a front man who can play anywhere across those front three positions.I goes without saying that Pigott is leaving and as I said at start of the window, we might see players leave that we never expected to leave. It’s a tight 25squad situation and we’re currently at 29, so some will definitely be leaving ( 2-3 on loan ).

[Bluemike]

Time will tell but I'd take a bet he's one who deffo won't be going.

[Mauswara]

We aren't gonna be getting rid of a 20 goal striker and replace with a 6 or 7 goal scorer, just ain't gonna happen, he's started pre season off with 3 goals already, only a fool would sell him.

I’m just not sure he’s got it in his locker to make that step up Mike. He’s a good league one striker, but at 30years old I think the club might not want to keep him if they get another younger striker in who they feel they can develop (like Hirst), or a front man who can play anywhere across those front three positions.I goes without saying that Pigott is leaving and as I said at start of the window, we might see players leave that we never expected to leave. It’s a tight 25squad situation and we’re currently at 29, so some will definitely be leaving ( 2-3 on loan ).

I think like others I was unsold on Freddie to start with, but during the second half of last season with Hirst challenging for the start he was impressive, to get that goal tally when you are coming on after 65 minutes is pretty good going.

[shabba]

He’s also got more goals that Hirst at this level.

I see it as he is settled and happy working in rotation with Hirst so will stay. Especially as it’s our first season up. We will likely get a utility frontman like a TJJ who can fill in as a striker when required (due to injuries). Can see us getting someone like that, plus Rak Saki and moving Jackson on.

The only way Freddie leaves is if we land a top striker, otherwise makes no sense to replace him.

Next season is a different story but I feel we shouldn’t try and run before we can walk in this league. Don’t make too many changes for the sake of it when you have a decent and settled squad.

[Bluemike]

We have to be aware that Hirst has literally done nothing at this level and while I am really happy with the signing it is something of a gamble.