Transfer Rumours

[AzzurroMark]

Town in talks to sign Brandon Williams on loan from Manchester Utd. If it goes through then it appears Greg Leigh will be allowed to leave for Oxford Utd.

Hmm don't know anything about him, but in the case of Leigh or Williams I say "better the devil you know"

[Bluemike]

Would rather keep Leigh as opposed to bringing in an untried kid, disappointed at this.

[Cabanas Blue]

Unless Leigh wants to leave to get more game time or we are getting a good amount of money I think it's a pity as he has always done well when needed and Williams did play for them up the road and he will surely only play it Davis is not fit.

[Cabanas Blue]

Would rather keep Leigh as opposed to bringing in an untried kid, disappointed at this.

Same here Mike but he has played 47 times in the premier league for both Man U and Norwich, but I still don't see him getting in the team.

[hallamblue]

https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-new ... s-williams


I suspect Leigh is fed up of getting no games, same as Edwards. So they want to leave to get regular football. Can’t blame them and the only likely replacements are going to be young PL players on loan looking for experience snd bring more prepared to sit it out on the bench .

[Ricco]

Yeah, seeing as Davis is one of the first names on the team sheet, it's probably fair enough that he doesn't just want to wait about for potential injuries.

[Bluemike]

We are supposed to be strengthening the squad, the longer this goes on the more I feel this transfer window is bitterly disappointing and underwhelming.

[number 9]

Williams has been at ManU for a long time, so I’d guess KM has seen a lot of him. I too like Leigh, but if he doesn’t wanna be here it’s his choice I’m sure. We’ll see.

[Andym]

We are supposed to be strengthening the squad, the longer this goes on the more I feel this transfer window is bitterly disappointing and underwhelming.

I agree. I think Saturday showed our defensive frailties despite not conceding.

[Dazzz67]

When I first read this I thought Mike ain't going to be happy, and secondly it will be a shame to lose Greg. But there is obviously reasons for this, we cannot blame the lad wanting to get more games so good luck to him.

Do not know alot about Wiliiams, KM knows him well enough so he must be good, you never know he may turn out to be a gem, I trust his judgement so let give him a chance.

On another note though, we need a CB, a striker and a possible RB, get those positions sorted and will rest a bit easier.

[number 9]

I’m thinking KM is not too concerned about another striker, all though if Hirst gets injured we’ll certainly be thin in that department. If I had to guess, I’d hope a quality CB is the priority. Unfortunately, quality CBs are hard to come by. I still think we need a better back up for Morsy. Once again finding someone even close to Morsy will be a task…which may be part of the problem transfer activity has been seemingly slow.

[Bluemike]

There won't be anymore midfielders coming in, that much I am certain of, Evans , Taylor and Ball all cover Morsy, clearly not as good as Morsy but cover all the same. As for another striker I think we deffo need one, Hirst works his butt off but every game this season he's burnt out well before the end, I actually wouldn't be surprised to see Freddie start Saturday.

[Charnwood]

It looks like Manchester United defender Brandon Williams is about to leave the club in order to join Ipswich Town on loan.

Williams has been on the books at Man Utd since 2008 and made his debut for the first team in 2019. However, he only made one appearance for them last season – in the Carabao Cup, not the Premier League – after returning from a loan spell at Norwich City.

As a result, he will be managed by former Man Utd coach Kieran McKenna, who led Ipswich to promotion out of League One last season.

Williams is under contract with Man Utd until the end of the current season, with the option of a further year. But Luke Shaw and Tyrell Malacia are ahead of him in the pecking order at left-back, and Diogo Dalot and Aaron Wan-Bissaka are in his way at right-back.

At the age of 22, Williams is now set for his first taste of Championship football by heading to Portman Road. Williams will become Ipswich’s second loan signing from a Premier League club this summer after they brought in Omari Hutchinson from Chelsea.

I guess this means the rumours of Greg Leigh going to Oxford United are probably true which is a shame but fully understandable at this stage of his career.

[number 9]

There won't be anymore midfielders coming in, that much I am certain of, Evans , Taylor and Ball all cover Morsy, clearly not as good as Morsy but cover all the same. As for another striker I think we deffo need one, Hirst works his butt off but every game this season he's burnt out well before the end, I actually wouldn't be surprised to see Freddie start Saturday.

Could Hutchinson fill in as a striker if needed? I don’t think Evans, Taylor & Ball come close to being a backup for Morsy. Freddie needs a start, but he has to be productive.

[hallamblue]

There won't be anymore midfielders coming in, that much I am certain of, Evans , Taylor and Ball all cover Morsy, clearly not as good as Morsy but cover all the same. As for another striker I think we deffo need one, Hirst works his butt off but every game this season he's burnt out well before the end, I actually wouldn't be surprised to see Freddie start Saturday.

This is our problem. Players not in that first 11 are not quite up to the same level (in some positions). The more senior understudies are looking for regular football ( I don’t blame them)
and are now moving on. We can only really replace them with PL youngsters from the big clubs who are looking for experience and are more willing to sit on the bench …. Unless they are actually REAL competition for players in the positions they’ve been brought in to challenge for.

I suppose we just have to continue to judge the process at the club now even though it feels a bit uncertain. But I did say at the start of this window we would see some senior players leave . I don’t think Edwards/ Leigh will be the last.

[Bluemike]

There won't be anymore midfielders coming in, that much I am certain of, Evans , Taylor and Ball all cover Morsy, clearly not as good as Morsy but cover all the same. As for another striker I think we deffo need one, Hirst works his butt off but every game this season he's burnt out well before the end, I actually wouldn't be surprised to see Freddie start Saturday.

Could Hutchinson fill in as a striker if needed? I don’t think Evans, Taylor & Ball come close to being a backup for Morsy. Freddie needs a start, but he has to be productive.

Freddie produced 21 times last season as prolific as Chaplin given minutes on the pitch, he won't be scoring from the bench, that's for sure.

[Charnwood]

The last para of this latest update from Manchester tonight is interesting.

Manchester United left-back Brandon Williams is on the verge of leaving Old Trafford for Championship club Ipswich Town.

Laurie Whitwell reports that the Red Devils are in ‘advanced talks’ with Ipswich over a loan move for Williams.

The loan deal could come with an obligation to buy at the end of the season.

[Bluemike]

The guy was said to be on 60k a week when at Norwich, just not getting this one.

[hallamblue]

The last para of this latest update from Manchester tonight is interesting.

Manchester United left-back Brandon Williams is on the verge of leaving Old Trafford for Championship club Ipswich Town.

Laurie Whitwell reports that the Red Devils are in ‘advanced talks’ with Ipswich over a loan move for Williams.

The loan deal could come with an obligation to buy at the end of the season.

An “obligation”, really? He better be good then!

Mike, I’m sure Town would never pay that amount of wages to him, it’d destabilise the squad wouldn’t it ( unless there’ll all on a lot more money than we’ve realised, but I doubt it)

[Bluemike]

That's exactly my point, it would have a harmful effect.

[shabba]

Likely UTD want him off the wage budget next season so are happy to loan him out and release him at the end of the season, ie his wages next year will be £0 so he himself also cannot demand high wages unless he feels he had other options. Even if Ipswich pay a small percent this year then it’s something

Does seem weird though unless KM thinks he can make him a Davis replacement as he could leave for big money next summer.

[hallamblue]

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/stat ... ?t=FF48I8I

[Cabanas Blue]

How can we possibly afford him even if he agreed to drop to 20 grand a week, he won't replace Davis IMO, I can only think KMc wants to play him in a different position, I don't understand this I only hope I'm wrong.

[Bluemike]

It's the wages thing I'm not getting, my work colleague is a Man Utd fan and is quoting me 65k a week at Old Trafford.

[shabba]

Remember he will be paid 65k whilst on loan, the percent ipswich pay will be anything from 0% to 100%.

So yes its weird/odd, but maybe we are paying 10% for all we know? Agree it would be weird as UTD are taking a major hit. However maybe they see 10% better than getting 0% and having him sit doing nothing?

Hopegully we dont see Davies sold for big money NOW? I.e that's why he is coming in?

[Bluemike]

That could well be the case, the problem is gonna arise with Man Utd insisting on an obligation to buy scenario

I can't see Davis leaving, Greg Leigh seems to be the sacrificial lamb

[Charnwood]

I’ve watched Brandon Williams play for United a few times and think he’ll be a brilliant acquisition if it happens. Whilst his preferred position is LB he’s right footed and can play either left or right, he can also play a further advanced role. When he first broke into the Man United first team I thought he was there to stay and was until Luke Shaw returned from injury and reestablished himself in the team. Given he’s made 47 appearances in the Premier League compared with Leif Davis 2 and Harry Clarke 0 should indicate the level he’s at and he’s still only 22. He was also Man U’s MOTM on his full debut game in the Premier League and definitely looked like one for the future, his 5 England Caps at U21 and U20 levels would suggest the same.

I suspect McKenna is pulling in a favour here as there’s no way on this earth that Brandon Williams would come to Ipswich without the McKenna link. Given Williams age it will be McKenna who coached him in his youth and clearly the two have a lot of respect for one another. McKenna will know his ability and his potential and Williams will know McKenna could be just the person to help him fulfil his potential.

As for his wages, Man Utd are committed to paying him £65kpw until the end of this season whether he stays there or not and Town can make a contribution. After next summer Man U have no commitment so they save nothing more than our contribution whether that be a one off fee or a weekly amount.

It will be interesting to see what we pay given his estimated transfer value is in the ball park of £3m - £4m although Utd may be happy to accept less and cover themselves with sell on clauses in case he becomes a star player in a couple of years or so.

The only slight mystery to me is why he was on Man Utd’s pre season tour playing in the first team v Real Madrid only a few weeks ago.

However, again I seem to be in the minority but I have total faith in McKenna getting this absolutely spot on especially with a player he will know so much about.

[Charnwood]

There won't be anymore midfielders coming in, that much I am certain of, Evans , Taylor and Ball all cover Morsy, clearly not as good as Morsy but cover all the same. As for another striker I think we deffo need one, Hirst works his butt off but every game this season he's burnt out well before the end, I actually wouldn't be surprised to see Freddie start Saturday.

Neither would the bookies Mike, I see they have Freddie as favourite to score the first goal !

The newly-promoted Tractor Boys have won three games out of three and are firm favourites to make it four out of four in being no bigger than 13-10. Leeds can be backed at 12-5 with 23-10 on offer about the draw.


As part of a clear chief quadruple threat, Ipswich are responsible for the first four players in the first scorer market in Freddie Lapado (11-2), George Hirst (13-2), Conor Chaplin (13-2) and Nathan Broadhead (15-2).

[Bluemike]

I’ve watched Brandon Williams play for United a few times and think he’ll be a brilliant acquisition if it happens. Whilst his preferred position is LB he’s right footed and can play either left or right, he can also play a further advanced role. When he first broke into the Man United first team I thought he was there to stay and was until Luke Shaw returned from injury and reestablished himself in the team. Given he’s made 47 appearances in the Premier League compared with Leif Davis 2 and Harry Clarke 0 should indicate the level he’s at and he’s still only 22. He was also Man U’s MOTM on his full debut game in the Premier League and definitely looked like one for the future, his 5 England Caps at U21 and U20 levels would suggest the same.

I suspect McKenna is pulling in a favour here as there’s no way on this earth that Brandon Williams would come to Ipswich without the McKenna link. Given Williams age it will be McKenna who coached him in his youth and clearly the two have a lot of respect for one another. McKenna will know his ability and his potential and Williams will know McKenna could be just the person to help him fulfil his potential.

As for his wages, Man Utd are committed to paying him £65kpw until the end of this season whether he stays there or not and Town can make a contribution. After next summer Man U have no commitment so they save nothing more than our contribution whether that be a one off fee or a weekly amount.

It will be interesting to see what we pay given his estimated transfer value is in the ball park of £3m - £4m although Utd may be happy to accept less and cover themselves with sell on clauses in case he becomes a star player in a couple of years or so.

The only slight mystery to me is why he was on Man Utd’s pre season tour playing in the first team v Real Madrid only a few weeks ago.

However, again I seem to be in the minority but I have total faith in McKenna getting this absolutely spot on especially with a player he will know so much about.

This guy must have gone under the radar with me as I've barely heard of him nor do I recall seeing him play, maybe he's a step up from Leif Davis which if so is win win.

Have you hit the nail on the head in that the guy can maybe be earmarked for the RB slot what with Donacien struggling/injured and Clarke carrying an injury ? Maybe we line up with both Davis and Williams?

As you say in KM it's total trust.

[Bluemike]

There won't be anymore midfielders coming in, that much I am certain of, Evans , Taylor and Ball all cover Morsy, clearly not as good as Morsy but cover all the same. As for another striker I think we deffo need one, Hirst works his butt off but every game this season he's burnt out well before the end, I actually wouldn't be surprised to see Freddie start Saturday.

Neither would the bookies Mike, I see they have Freddie as favourite to score the first goal !

The newly-promoted Tractor Boys have won three games out of three and are firm favourites to make it four out of four in being no bigger than 13-10. Leeds can be backed at 12-5 with 23-10 on offer about the draw.


As part of a clear chief quadruple threat, Ipswich are responsible for the first four players in the first scorer market in Freddie Lapado (11-2), George Hirst (13-2), Conor Chaplin (13-2) and Nathan Broadhead (15-2).

That is interesting, I bet the sods read my post lol.