McKenna - on his future at Ipswich Town.

[Cabanas Blue]

Brighton have done as well as they can IMO, Town have more scope for continued improvement plus we give the manager all he wants with Brighton the owner decides what the manager has plus they won't always find the right players to sell on for big profits.

[Bluemike]

I'd be disappointed in him if he went to Brighton without giving us a season in the top flight first. In my opinion its a poison chalice for KM as I think Brighton can only go one way after Three good seasons, and that's downwards.

[shabba]

I would agree Brighton are at their ceiling or close to it, but they could become an established top 10 club for a long period and be used as a stepping stone to a top six job, thats what I'm trying to say > you go there for a year and do well, then you can get a top 6 job maybe.

IMO Town would struggle to be a top 8 club long term no matter how well it goes, can you honestly see them being bigger than Spurs, Arsenal, Utd, City, Chelsea, Newcastle, Villa, West Ham etc?

[Bluemike]

No but I can see them being bigger than Forest, Fulham, Palace, Wolves, Brentford, Bournemouth, Everton, Leicester, Leeds/Southampton,

[hallamblue]

Thing is with US, in the PL hes essentially got a free hit this coming season, to show what he can do in the PL. Even if we went down again, I dont think that would damage his status, but if he keeps us up in our first season, that's going to increase his stock value even more , than it would at an "established?" Brighton, where he'd have far less influence of the running of things than he would at Town. He'd be barking mad to leave us right now IMHO

[shabba]

Thing is with US, in the PL hes essentially got a free hit this coming season, to show what he can do in the PL. Even if we went down again, I dont think that would damage his status, but if he keeps us up in our first season, that's going to increase his stock value even more , than it would at an "established?" Brighton, where he'd have far less influence of the running of things than he would at Town. He'd be barking mad to leave us right now IMHO

Ok but what would be eaiser this year, keeping town up or getting top 8 with Brighton? Not sure Chelsea/UTD woud apppoint him if he got town relegated, but if he got top 8 with Brighton - they would.

[Ricco]

My thoughts:

1- Bookies are still taking bets, so as much as some think... it is not a done thing, any sniff of that it is, and the books slam shut. He has actually slightly lengthened to 1/2, the shortening yesterday likely to do with people swarming on a new market, rather than anything of real substance.

2- It's no surprise these teams are talking to him and offering him terms, that doesn't mean he will take them, equally, him listening to them means absolutely zero about his intentions or loyalty to Town.

3- He isn't an idiot, even if he is set on staying at Town, he will use the attention to strengthen and renegotiate his position at Town.

4- Silence from himself and the club mean nothing, they won't put out statements from every bit of interest he receives, and as mentioned above, they will be jostling and talking about things internally. The club won't know what is truly going on, and there is a good chance McKenna is just getting everything on the table before he even considers what he might want to do, let alone share that with anyone.

5- If he leaves, he will be cutting a story short before the ending, and it will turn in to a 'what may have been'. He will lose legendary status at the club, and future clubs may be slightly more wary of his loyalties, and loyalties matter to players fighting for you on the pitch. This is a very complicated decision for him (and everyone involved), and complicated in many ways we wouldn't have even considered.

6- After settling for 6 weeks, Danny Rohl took Sheffield Wednesday from a team earning 3pts from 11 games, a club in ownership/fan base turmoil, to a team finishing in the playoffs on the form table for the last 28 games of the season. I will be disheartened and frustrated if McKenna leaves, falling just short of devastated, because there are other exciting young managers out there that Ashton will have been eyeing, all will not be lost.

[hallamblue]

Thing is with US, in the PL hes essentially got a free hit this coming season, to show what he can do in the PL. Even if we went down again, I dont think that would damage his status, but if he keeps us up in our first season, that's going to increase his stock value even more , than it would at an "established?" Brighton, where he'd have far less influence of the running of things than he would at Town. He'd be barking mad to leave us right now IMHO

Ok but what would be eaiser this year, keeping town up or getting top 8 with Brighton? Not sure Chelsea/UTD woud apppoint him if he got town relegated, but if he got top 8 with Brighton - they would.

Not sure its about whats easier... Hes got more about him than that . Its about potential, and Id say Town have far more potential and crucially, KM has far more input to the daily goings on at Town than he'd likely get at Brighton. You only have to see what the departing manager is saying on that front.

Of course none of us knows whats happening ...and it is all speculation . The betting companies LOVE it right now and Id suggest thats essentially what we are dealing with right now, betting companies and agents.

[hallamblue]

My thoughts:

1- Bookies are still taking bets, so as much as some think... it is not a done thing, any sniff of that it is, and the books slam shut. He has actually slightly lengthened to 1/2, the shortening yesterday likely to do with people swarming on a new market, rather than anything of real substance.

2- It's no surprise these teams are talking to him and offering him terms, that doesn't mean he will take them, equally, him listening to them means absolutely zero about his intentions or loyalty to Town.

3- He isn't an idiot, even if he is set on staying at Town, he will use the attention to strengthen and renegotiate his position at Town.

4- Silence from himself and the club mean nothing, they won't put out statements from every bit of interest he receives, and as mentioned above, they will be jostling and talking about things internally. The club won't know what is truly going on, and there is a good chance McKenna is just getting everything on the table before he even considers what he might want to do, let alone share that with anyone.

5- If he leaves, he will be cutting a story short before the ending, and it will turn in to a 'what may have been'. He will lose legendary status at the club, and future clubs may be slightly more wary of his loyalties, and loyalties matter to players fighting for you on the pitch. This is a very complicated decision for him (and everyone involved), and complicated in many ways we wouldn't have even considered.

6- After settling for 6 weeks, Danny Rohl took Sheffield Wednesday from a team earning 3pts from 11 games, a club in ownership/fan base turmoil, to a team finishing in the playoffs on the form table for the last 28 games of the season. I will be disheartened and frustrated if McKenna leaves, falling just short of devastated, because there are other exciting young managers out there that Ashton will have been eyeing, all will not be lost.

Spot on

[ITFC2024]

Vincent Kompany now being linked with Bayern Munich!

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/arti ... 44l5zp8nvo

Pochettino update:

“In case Chelsea and Pochettino decide to part ways, the Blues’ idea is to go for a young coach rather than an experienced coach.

“That’s the feeling today, that’s the current idea – to discuss with Pochettino and understand if they can continue together, which is the priority, but if they can’t agree on terms then keep an eye on young managers for Chelsea.”

West Ham update:

West Ham are set to appoint Julen Lopetegui as their new manager later this week.

The former Spain and Real Madrid coach was identified as the Hammers’ first choice to replace outgoing boss David Moyes and, earlier this month, agreed to take up the role.

Brighton update:

Brighton & Hove Albion are also thrown into the mix as potential suitors for Kompany’s expertise following the announcement that Roberto De Zerbi will exit the club this summer. This leaves the Seagulls in a precarious position, searching for a manager capable of continuing their recent successes in the Premier League.

[Ricco]

Vincent Kompany now being linked with Bayern Munich!

So does that prove that McKenna's rep will not be damaged by a relegation next season?!! There you go Kieran, you can always join a European giant next season, you've done more than Kompany has in management!

[shabba]

V good post Ricco.

[hallamblue]

Which player (young) left us to join narwich in the last few years...was it Ben Gibson? If so they've just released him.

[Bluemike]

Gibbs

[hallamblue]

ah, close lol

[Denny61]

We can all speculate but at the end of the day ..it may all come down to money been available to mckenna and how much..the owners have money alright but its public monies .and may not be as forthcoming with enough of what kieran may want to buy more experienced pl players and wages that come with it . They have seen what little money they have invested for us to get in to the PL..and maybe they are thinking we'll this kieran Lad is a genius he doesn't really need any big amount of money. So let him jst bring in good championship players at a modest outlay and we bring home the bacon ..ie loads of dosh for the investors..so maybe that could sway kierans thinking in to sayin..ive done all I can really with a modest outlay .I want to join the big boys now and see what I can do with the big players and money no object....just my opinion folks

[hallamblue]

are you the same Denny that posts similarly on twtd ?

[Denny61]

are you the same Denny that posts similarly on twtd ?

No..just on here .why

[Bluemike]

Well one crumb of comfort from someone that works at the club is that the talk is that he won't be leaving, as much as I hope that's true I'm still not convinced.

[Denny61]

Well one crumb of comfort from someone that works at the club is that the talk is that he won't be leaving, as much as I hope that's true I'm still not convinced.

as they say Mike..no news is good news....just looking up Brighton fans forum ..they saying ...Liam rosenior in the mix now ..?,

[Bluemike]

The more that get involved the better, I'd be a little surprised if he got that job.

[Bluemike]

Saw this on Brighton's forum lol.

He’s not coming, his Uncle, a United fan, was dining in The Goldstone 1901 East on Sunday. He’s extremely flattered by the link but has built up an amazing relationship with the Ipswich owners. Loyalty is a huge part of his Footballing DNA, in addition to this Sir Alex is one of his biggest admirers, so he will go about his business and further honing his craft in Suffolk but we could see the ultimate move a few years down the line. (If Fergie is still with us)

Part of me hopes his Uncle was throwing out a red herring but he seemed pretty genuine

[shabba]

We can all speculate but at the end of the day ..it may all come down to money been available to mckenna and how much..the owners have money alright but its public monies .and may not be as forthcoming with enough of what kieran may want to buy more experienced pl players and wages that come with it . They have seen what little money they have invested for us to get in to the PL..and maybe they are thinking we'll this kieran Lad is a genius he doesn't really need any big amount of money. So let him jst bring in good championship players at a modest outlay and we bring home the bacon ..ie loads of dosh for the investors..so maybe that could sway kierans thinking in to sayin..ive done all I can really with a modest outlay .I want to join the big boys now and see what I can do with the big players and money no object....just my opinion folks

No, listen the the interview by Stuart Watson with Ed Schwartz and he talks about this still being the beginning, that the believe its a 7-10 year plan from when they took over and they think there is alot of untapped potential with media/broadcast revenues etc.
It sounded clear they wanted to establish Ipswich as a decent premier league club before selling, I'd suspect then it'll be worth 400m+ and therefore a decent return on investment.

[marko69]

We really do need to back away from the media news outlets sometimes. It really does help nurture & develop bad opinions of people. Already across many platforms people are Saying, “I’ll never forgive him” “last two years will mean nothing” etc etc …….. instead of everyone being on board that he’s totally set on seeing how far he can take Ipswich Town FC.

If the rumours centred solely on Manchester United, there would be genuine concerns. I’d certainly be concerned, for sure. But all the other “non top 8” predictions are an insult to the man himself really.

Even in this NON football time period……. TRUST in KMcK.

[ITFC2024]

EADT ARTICLE:

Football pundits Simon Jordan and Martin Keown say Kieran McKenna should stay at Ipswich Town and continue his incredible journey with the Blues.

The Town boss has, inevitably, been linked with a series of Premier League jobs since leading the Blues to back-to-back promotions and making himself perhaps the hottest managerial property in England.
He's currently the odds-on favourite for the hot seat at Brighton after Roberto De Zerbi departed, but has also been linked to former club Manchester United and Chelsea in recent days.

As we understand it, it's business at usual at the Blues. No-one has made an official approach to speak to McKenna.
And, debating the story on talkSPORT, ex-Crystal Palace owner and chairman Jordan insisted that he should stay with the Blues.
“I would think he wants to be a bit better than your average football manager, rather than just jumping at what is perceived to be the next big opportunity," Jordan opined.

“He is not experienced in managing in the Premier League. He’s taken a team through the leagues, and has got remarkable achievements and remarkable credit for it.
“I think he’ll get even more remarkable credit if he goes into the league and operates with Ipswich and shows a degree of respect and loyalty for the opportunity that was given to him.
“He’s paid them back, no doubt – he’s got them into the Premier League. But I think there will be more thought of him if he stays with Ipswich and does a good job there, than there will be about him jumping for the first Premier League opportunity that comes along.
“Because if he’s as good as he looks like he can be, then he doesn’t need to go to Brighton as a stepping stone, he can go somewhere else.
“Stay at Ipswich, build them and be successful higher up the pyramid.”

That view was echoed by Arsenal legend Martin Keown.
The Premier League winner said: "He’s had two promotions McKenna, back to back.
"You look at the money, the budget they’ve been going with and all the teams that came down, the parachute payments that he was up against.
“They didn’t have the budget and he’s done remarkably well to do it.

“Personally I think – and it depends on him – but I think he should stay where he is.
“It’s been a long time coming to see the Tractor Boys back in the Premier League. I think he should continue with that journey.
“I can see why they (Brighton) want to take him.”

[Blue Wilf]

Totally agree with them - he is going nowhere and as I have said before, no-one anywhere near McKenna or the club has said a word - all speculation in a desert of other stories at this time of year. He doesn't need to go anywhere - just do like he has done for the past two season, take one game at a time and see what happens. Its hard for us to think like that but it seems that is exactly how KM approaches things. We should give him credit - he will stay because, stay up or go down, he will still be a hero here. The 'big jobs' and 'stepping stones' if he needs them will still be there in a years time. He has work to do - he is only 38 - thats a baby in this game! He is going nowhere for at least a season and I for one, trust in that. In KM, we really need to trust

[hallamblue]

are you the same Denny that posts similarly on twtd ?

No..just on here .why

I just noticed another Denny posting on TWTD…. He had a different number after his username, but seemed very similar to you.

[hallamblue]

Totally agree with them - he is going nowhere and as I have said before, no-one anywhere near McKenna or the club has said a word - all speculation in a desert of other stories at this time of year. He doesn't need to go anywhere - just do like he has done for the past two season, take one game at a time and see what happens. Its hard for us to think like that but it seems that is exactly how KM approaches things. We should give him credit - he will stay because, stay up or go down, he will still be a hero here. The 'big jobs' and 'stepping stones' if he needs them will still be there in a years time. He has work to do - he is only 38 - thats a baby in this game! He is going nowhere for at least a season and I for one, trust in that. In KM, we really need to trust

If common sense prevails, he’ll be staying, but we just don’t know for sure do we. Fingers and anything else possible to cross, is being crossed

[Shed on tour]

Pochettino has left Chelsea so no doubt that will continue the rumours. A basket case of a club and if McKenna went there then I certainly would wonder what he is thinking of.

[shabba]

Pochettino has left Chelsea so no doubt that will continue the rumours. A basket case of a club and if McKenna went there then I certainly would wonder what he is thinking of.

I thought he did well enough there! I mean who are they going to get! Potter struggled there so that night out then offer someone like KM - they may aim for a more experienced manager.