Premier League - Ipswich Town vs Bournemouth Preview & Matchday Thread

[Shed on tour]

How much did we pay for that tw*t in goal? I bet Burnley couldn’t believe the amount they got for him. Real killer blow today and without doubt McKenna has to take some of the blame for it. As already has been said Delap was completely out on his feet by the hour mark. Really can’t see where our first home win is coming from.

[Blue Wilf]

Am beyond pissed off. I said weeks ago that I never wanted Muric to play for us again and got loads of 'trust the process' sh*t back on here. Well there you go. He is a f**king disaster and has been from day one. He has now sent us as good as back to the Championship cos his distribution and decision making is f**king atrocious.

We were so good, had all of the momentum and then that pr*ck does what he always does and fucks it up with poor decision making. If I were Cam Burgess who was immense today, I would want to kick his bollocks off after that.

For those of you that want 'facts' here is one - watch the game back to evidence that he is sh*t!

McKenna does not get away with it either as the one week he needed to make a f**king sub, he didn't and left Delap on when he was clearly knackered.

Thats it as I can't be arsed to write more. We had it in our control and one rash moment blows the season...

[marko69]

He raced out rather recklessly but had he stayed back we could still have been in trouble.

Ah right, one of those. No worries......, damned if he did, damned if he didn't

No, he was at fault simple as that.

Oh right.

Help me out as I've not seen it yet. Had he NOT run out recklessly, was he still at fault? As Charnwood alludes to?

[Blue Wilf]

Oh - one more thing. How is the process some of you are trusting gonna deal with Wolves away (with no Delap), newcastle, arsenal, chelsea, fulham away and Liverpool away? Good luck with that one!

[marko69]

Mashton must be seriously regretting naming the entire new regime as "a process"......, you lot can't stay away from it eh? The preview was littered with it. Must admit, I see it similar to the Mevans "5 point plan" which was a sh*t title as well.

But got to pray that SOMETHING good (as far as I am concerned) with the boss happens......., KMcK sacked, --->> goes to the Cabbage & Ribs. Yep, playing Kelty Hearts in a couple years? I think not. Hope y'all sober up in time for the Wolves game.

Where are ya, Wolfie? Get back here for some banter.

[JohnnyB]

Gutted.

I watched highlights and there's no doubt that's a massive error from Muric for their first.

It's not over yet but in a tough tough place. Hard to see who's going down if we're not. I thought maybe Leicester would fold but while things go sour for us, they seem to eek out results

[mendipblue]

Ah right, one of those. No worries......, damned if he did, damned if he didn't

No, he was at fault simple as that.

Oh right.

Help me out as I've not seen it yet. Had he NOT run out recklessly, was he still at fault? As Charnwood alludes to?

No, if he had stayed in the six yard yard area he would of been more useful. By coming out to just inside the 18 yard box, he made it easier for them. He is sh*te and needs dropping, preferably from a great height

[mendipblue]

Am beyond pissed off. I said weeks ago that I never wanted Muric to play for us again and got loads of 'trust the process' sh*t back on here. Well there you go. He is a f**king disaster and has been from day one. He has now sent us as good as back to the Championship cos his distribution and decision making is f**king atrocious.

We were so good, had all of the momentum and then that pr*ck does what he always does and fucks it up with poor decision making. If I were Cam Burgess who was immense today, I would want to kick his bollocks off after that.

For those of you that want 'facts' here is one - watch the game back to evidence that he is sh*t!

McKenna does not get away with it either as the one week he needed to make a f**king sub, he didn't and left Delap on when he was clearly knackered.

Thats it as I can't be arsed to write more. We had it in our control and one rash moment blows the season...

That is all spot on

[Ricco]

No centre back on the bench again, and we had a chance to go with 3 centre backs. If we went to 5 at the back at 60 minutes, then what could be better for tired legs?

There is no point running ourselves in to the ground, only to flounder and throw it away late on, time and again. You can't defend when exhausted with 4 at the back against teams of this quality, Davis for one is simply not there to help.

We average 0.46 points a game with 4 at the back, that is just 17 points over a 38 game season.

We average 1.5 points per game with 5 at the back, 57 points a season.

Yeah ok, I'm not going to say it's a magical cure, but what we're doing ain't working and it ain't changing, it's madness.

[mugen1]

Why can we all see it's not working but KM can't? The table never lies.

[hallamblue]

Just got in to learn we’ve actually conspired to lose the bloody game. It was 1-1 when I left on 92mm so, after that bloody CLOWN Muric once again does his headless chicken impersonation to gift the opposition a goal. Just WHEN is McKenna going to grow a pair and drop this bloody liability?? For the love of god man, DROP HIM!

Once again we more than match a PL opponent, yet time and again failing to convert our chances that go begging. For the first time this season, I felt we had an attack that might prove too much for the opposition, as McKenna FINALLY plays Szmodics, Chaplin and Omari behind Delap….

On the subject of Delap, he clearly has zero endurance as can barely reach 60 mins in a game. It was obvious his legs had gone yet it wasn’t until 80 mins that McKenna brings on fresh legs, given those subs just 15 mins in a game. What is the problem McKenna, can’t you SEE what 30k Town fans can see?

We need a striker in the window with experience, we need another Keeper in if he isn’t going to play Walton, and also another defender, as I’m not sure how long Axel is going to be out, and we have nothing str9mg enough on the bench. But McKenna needs to up HIS game now … so questionable decisions by him most weeks now. Last week his playing Greaves cost us that game too, when he clearly isn’t match fit.

[Blue Wilf]

Why can we all see it's not working but KM can't? The table never lies.

From the evidence on here, Mugen, we certainly cannot ALL see it is not working. In fact, only a few of us seem to see it!

[Bluemike]

Maybe he needs to p*ss off too

[hallamblue]

Am beyond pissed off. I said weeks ago that I never wanted Muric to play for us again and got loads of 'trust the process' sh*t back on here. Well there you go. He is a f**king disaster and has been from day one. He has now sent us as good as back to the Championship cos his distribution and decision making is f**king atrocious.

We were so good, had all of the momentum and then that pr*ck does what he always does and fucks it up with poor decision making. If I were Cam Burgess who was immense today, I would want to kick his bollocks off after that.

For those of you that want 'facts' here is one - watch the game back to evidence that he is sh*t!

McKenna does not get away with it either as the one week he needed to make a f**king sub, he didn't and left Delap on when he was clearly knackered.

Thats it as I can't be arsed to write more. We had it in our control and one rash moment blows the season...

WORD ^^^^^^

[Blue Wilf]

Just got in to learn we’ve actually conspired to lose the bloody game. It was 1-1 when I left on 92mm so, after that bloody CLOWN Muric once again does his headless chicken impersonation to gift the opposition a goal. Just WHEN is McKenna going to grow a pair and drop this bloody liability?? For the love of god man, DROP HIM!

Once again we more than match a PL opponent, yet time and again failing to convert our chances that go begging. For the first time this season, I felt we had an attack that might prove too much for the opposition, as McKenna FINALLY plays Szmodics, Chaplin and Omari behind Delap….

On the subject of Delap, he clearly has zero endurance as can barely reach 60 mins in a game. It was obvious his legs had gone yet it wasn’t until 80 mins that McKenna brings on fresh legs, given those subs just 15 mins in a game. What is the problem McKenna, can’t you SEE what 30k Town fans can see?

We need a striker in the window with experience, we need another Keeper in if he isn’t going to play Walton, and also another defender, as I’m not sure how long Axel is going to be out, and we have nothing str9mg enough on the bench. But McKenna needs to up HIS game now … so questionable decisions by him most weeks now. Last week his playing Greaves cost us that game too, when he clearly isn’t match fit.

I can't argue with any of your post either! I am just a bit sad that we are now looking down the barrel of half a dozen games that we may well play our hearts out in but fear we will ultimately not be good enough. How 3 points at Brentford, 3 v Leicester, 3 v Man Utd and 3 today would have seen us if only Muric and Mckenna had played them slightly differently. We will never know but 11 extra points or even 5 out of those 11 would have made the table look so much better...

[hallamblue]

I’m the cold light of day BW, this squad isn’t good enough. For all of our matching teams ( usually for 60mins), we often run out of steam as the players endurance struggles to maintain that early intensity against much quick , more athletic opponents. But our biggest problem is consistent ability to gift opponents soft , easy goals when often there’s no danger. We do it every week without fail and Muric is one of the main problems for this . He has to be dropped.

We will have to see who we can manage to bring in in January . But I’m all most of the view, I don’t care if we get relegated, because it’s not enjoyable being in the PL. with all the plastic players rolling around at the slightest touch, VAR once again going against us, and the refs being seemingly for the “ established” team. There’s absolutely. NOTHING about the PL I would miss.

[valleyroad]

Bombscare goalkeeping. As bad as it gets. Can't see Muric starting next match. Shipped a pile of goals all season. Has a presence and decent shot stopper but handling is suspect, decision making is shocking for PL keeper and concentration dire.

[Blue Wilf]

I’m the cold light of day BW, this squad isn’t good enough. For all of our matching teams ( usually for 60mins), we often run out of steam as the players endurance struggles to maintain that early intensity against much quick , more athletic opponents. But our biggest problem is consistent ability to gift opponents soft , easy goals when often there’s no danger. We do it every week without fail and Muric is one of the main problems for this . He has to be dropped.

We will have to see who we can manage to bring in in January . But I’m all most of the view, I don’t care if we get relegated, because it’s not enjoyable being in the PL. with all the plastic players rolling around at the slightest touch, VAR once again going against us, and the refs being seemingly for the “ established” team. There’s absolutely. NOTHING about the PL I would miss.

You are probably right. It is nice to play at the top table but that comes at a cost. If we stayed up for say, 3 years and became a bournemouth - would we be any happier? They are a good premier league team and punch well above their weight but will never win anything even though they have to put up with PL play acting, kick off times, bias to City, Utd etc etc is it all worth it?

[valleyroad]

PL is 100% where I want Ipswich to play and to keep improving. Anywhere else is second rate

[Bluemike]

Bombscare goalkeeping. As bad as it gets. Can't see Muric starting next match. Shipped a pile of goals all season. Has a presence and decent shot stopper but handling is suspect, decision making is shocking for PL keeper and concentration dire.

Ten million percent correct.

[JohnnyB]

I think we were over-promoted. Another season in the championship strengthening and preparing for the massive challenge of adjusting to the demands of the premiership might have eased the transition.

However, if we can stay up, I definitely want to. Forest might give us some hope. Quite a comparable club in terms of 20th century history, recent history and size of fan base. Look where they are now but they struggled at first.

[mugen1]

Bet the family silver he won't be dropped

Only team with no home win in the PL

[hallamblue]

Sell Muric. He’s been a monumental mistake by the club . Recoup what we can and bring in another keeper. He will. never change . He did exactly the same c*ck ups whilst at Burnley. In fact I’m wondering why the hell we bought him as we usually due lengthy assessments on our targets.

It’s no use making the occasional “worldy” save (mostly all are instinctive anyway, leaving no time to think about the action), when your basic decision making is so fundamentally flawed, which Muric’s is quite clearly. He’s cost us more wins than he has prevented loses.

[ashfordblue]

After watching the highlights Conner's goal was well taken typical of Connor finding the space in the 18-yard box game over then the disallowed goal ?? was it Liam holding back their keeper or something else, then the Muric disaster gets chipped Burgess tried to rescue it but bundles it into his own goal, their second was a cut across our goal Muric tries to slide it away straight to the Bournemouth player all on his own game over.

Now if we are to save ourselves from the drop we must prioritise in the Jan window a new keeper, Muric is so predictable and is certainly not the Premiership quality we need, and has to be benched or moved on.
Our management needs to take a lesson from all our defeats and draws so far, with 15 games gone. As it stands, we need a near-complete rebuild. We have nothing in reserve in our defence. We need another two or more quality defenders and, I am afraid, a quality left winger, as we are missing the versatile Ogbene. What we have as a team at the moment isn't going to suffice to keep us up.
The only players I think can make it are the following definites, Hutchinson, Delap, Tuanzebe, Greaves, Davis, Cajuste, Chaplin, Szmodics, Hirst if fit, Morsy,
ones to let go, Muric, Phillips, J Clarke, H Clarke, Harmadi, Luongo, Burns, Townsend, Woolfenden, Taylor, Donacien, Johnson, O'Shea, Broadhead, Burgess,
As it stands we need a complete rebuild with no room for sentiment we have to look to the immediate future, if we don't start in this Jan window we are going down for sure, we have no Quality depth in the Squad to maintain consistency with results, we have to bring in players that will help us to stay up.
It is no good for us to get relegated with the squad we have as the best will go and the remainder will want to play in the Championship BUT to rebuild a squad who are capable of promotion and staying in the premiership is a huge spending task, we have spent near 100 million and haven't even scratched the surface, the idea was to maintain 15 to 17th place first season and then in the summer build with quality players who don't come cheap, I think the likes of Bournemouth, Brentford and Brighton are the examples we have to follow, all have good foreign managers and training staff with a free range to buy the quality team needed for survival, will that be made available ??? under Ashton Maybe.
Spurs are Looking to replace Postecoglou and are looking to approach Kieran McKenna make of this what you will if we go down Kieran will leave for sure.

[Bluemike]

Ash for the most part O'Shea and Burgess were immense today

[hallamblue]

If Spurs came in first McKenna, he wouldn’t last 5 mins with these Prima Donas at the bigger clubs. Even Man Utd players were disparaging about him , calling him “ the teacher” … I don’t think he’s proved his stock at PL level yet by any means.

[marko69]

Spurs are Looking to replace Postecoglou and are looking to approach Kieran McKenna make of this what you will if we go down Kieran will leave for sure.

I read that Jurgen Klopp is missing the EPL so much that he’s looking to land the Spurs gig. With Brendan Rodgers possibly dying of boredom, Big Ange is looking to get back to Glasgow as he’s missing the weather apparently.
Make of that what you will, Ash!

[Charnwood]

For me I think that was one of Cameron Burgess’s best performances in a Town shirt. His disallowed goal was definitely harsh and his own goal almost unavoidable on his part.

As for Muric for his own good and for the benefit of the team I think it’s time for a change even though I’m not convinced Walton will be a significant improvement. However if he plays with the same determination to keep the jersey once in his possession like Hladky did I’d be very happy.

[ashfordblue]

Ash for the most part O'Shea and Burgess were immense today

Mike, I didn't see the whole game like you so I will go by your better judgment, but I was thinking more of our lack of depth in the defence if we have a keeper with safe hands then I'm sure our defenders would be more alert rather than worrying about the mistakes being made behind them, and also we are still nowhere near the target of what we aimed for near the halfway stage, I just want us to bring in more depth in the defence and extra strikers, then in the new year make a real charge for safety

[ashfordblue]

For me I think that was one of Cameron Burgess’s best performances in a Town shirt. His disallowed goal was definitely harsh and his own goal almost unavoidable on his part.

As for Muric for his own good and for the benefit of the team I think it’s time for a change even though I’m not convinced Walton will be a significant improvement. However if he plays with the same determination to keep the jersey once in his possession like Hladky did I’d be very happy.

Why did Hladky move to Burnley as a bench warmer I'd have him back here as he's better than Muric for sure