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by valleyroad » Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:59 pm
Shed on tour wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:43 pm
What scenes and limbs everywhere when that winner went in. Last week when that winner went in for Bournemouth I hated this game, one week later I love it! COYBS!!
Funny old game. I had double dose of it last week with Town and St Mirren. This week the complete opposite

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by Shed on tour » Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:01 pm
Delap got booked after the scuffle at the end of the game and misses next week game.
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by Bluemike » Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:10 pm
Al-Hamadi hat-trick next week then
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by Bluemike » Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:10 pm
I see they had a red card after the whistle which is why the guy lost it
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by mendipblue » Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:18 pm
Shed on tour wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:01 pm
Delap got booked after the scuffle at the end of the game and misses next week game.
Did he? It's not showing yellow against his name on the BBC website

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by Bluemike » Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:22 pm
I can't see Delap's yellow anywhere atm ?
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by hallamblue » Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:44 pm
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by Shed on tour » Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:52 pm
Bluemike wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:22 pm
I can't see Delap's yellow anywhere atm ?
Had radio Suffolk on when pulling away from the ground and McKenna said he was suspended next week.
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by Bluemike » Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:57 pm
Must be right then unfortunately
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by Cabanas Blue » Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:58 pm
Jack Taylor was booked and earlier H Clarke but nothing about Delap on live score.
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by Charnwood » Sat Dec 14, 2024 8:07 pm
I’m hoping in all the confusion during the push match melee McKenna has been misinformed, please please please as Delap was awesome again today and so difficult to play against.
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by Shed on tour » Sat Dec 14, 2024 8:11 pm
Phil Ham has put in his match report that Delap was booked. Obviously seems to be some confusion about what happened.
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by Charnwood » Sat Dec 14, 2024 8:11 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:36 pm
We may have just lost the Wolves Manager his Job
They can’t afford to sack him Lucy although where all their money is gone is a mystery having sold £200m of talent in the past 18 months.
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by hallamblue » Sat Dec 14, 2024 8:12 pm
Shed on tour wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:52 pm
Bluemike wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:22 pm
I can't see Delap's yellow anywhere atm ?
Had radio Suffolk on when pulling away from the ground and McKenna said he was suspended next week.
All because he can't keep his big trap shut!
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by Cabanas Blue » Sat Dec 14, 2024 8:18 pm
From TWTD poster.
Getting involved in a brawl after the match has finished when you know you're the only fit PL level striker is clearly more stupid than an emotional reaction to a late winner from our 3/4th choice midfielder.
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by Charnwood » Sat Dec 14, 2024 8:18 pm
hallamblue wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 8:12 pm
Shed on tour wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:52 pm
Bluemike wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:22 pm
I can't see Delap's yellow anywhere atm ?
Had radio Suffolk on when pulling away from the ground and McKenna said he was suspended next week.
All because he can't keep his big trap shut!
Given the disgraceful behaviour of some of the Wolves players giving them a few verbals was surely pretty minor.
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by Charnwood » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:04 pm
I thought we played well for the vast majority of the game and apart from a short spell when it could have gone either way over 90 mins we deserved our win. Yes we conceded a poor goal and were under heavy pressure for a 10 or 15 mins spell particularly immediately after they scored, but you have to expect that especially when you’re playing away against a fellow struggling team. I thought McKenna got his substitutions spot on and no surprise that it was the two Jacks who assisted and scored the winning goal. It was a perfect set piece corner/header which had clearly been practiced many times on the training ground this week to exploit Wolves known weakness defending set pieces. Jack Taylor’s header was Wolves 20th goal conceded from a set piece so far this season. It was also Taylor’s first Premier League goal and he’s now scored in each of the Top 5 Leagues if English football. I wonder how many midfielders have that on their CV.
I really enjoyed that today and Saturday evening has been so much more enjoyable, a complete opposite of last weekend.



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by Blue Wilf » Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:23 pm
Charnwood wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:04 pm
I thought we played well for the vast majority of the game and apart from a short spell when it could have gone either way over 90 mins we deserved our win. Yes we conceded a poor goal and were under heavy pressure for a 10 or 15 mins spell particularly immediately after they scored, but you have to expect that especially when you’re playing away against a fellow struggling team. I thought McKenna got his substitutions spot on and no surprise that it was the two Jacks who assisted and scored the winning goal. It was a perfect set piece corner/header which had clearly been practiced many times on the training ground this week to exploit Wolves known weakness defending set pieces. Jack Taylor’s header was Wolves 20th goal conceded from a set piece so far this season. It was also Taylor’s first Premier League goal and he’s now scored in each of the Top 5 Leagues if English football. I wonder how many midfielders have that on their CV.
I really enjoyed that today and Saturday evening has been so much more enjoyable, a complete opposite of last weekend.


I have to say I am delighted that the substitutions worked out but to say it was 'no surprise' is not my view - it was a total surprise to me as those two had never looked like doing that in any previous game! Also, as for McKenna getting his subs spot on, again, he was just doing the same subs he always does. It just so happens that on this occasion, it worked whereas in many others, it hasn't. No great 'messiah moment' for me although I cannot deny it was very welcome and enjoyable!
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by hallamblue » Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:27 pm
Don't know how many corners or free kicks we forced around their area today. But a blind man can see from the stats that Wolves can't defend set pieces. So this HAD to be central to our game plan today in my view.
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by Cabanas Blue » Sun Dec 15, 2024 12:27 am
People at the match saying that there goal was from a deflection I didn't notice myself but those saying it were right behind it.
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by marko69 » Sun Dec 15, 2024 12:29 am
Blue Wilf wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:23 pm
Charnwood wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:04 pm
I thought we played well for the vast majority of the game and apart from a short spell when it could have gone either way over 90 mins we deserved our win. Yes we conceded a poor goal and were under heavy pressure for a 10 or 15 mins spell particularly immediately after they scored, but you have to expect that especially when you’re playing away against a fellow struggling team. I thought McKenna got his substitutions spot on and no surprise that it was the two Jacks who assisted and scored the winning goal. It was a perfect set piece corner/header which had clearly been practiced many times on the training ground this week to exploit Wolves known weakness defending set pieces. Jack Taylor’s header was Wolves 20th goal conceded from a set piece so far this season. It was also Taylor’s first Premier League goal and he’s now scored in each of the Top 5 Leagues if English football. I wonder how many midfielders have that on their CV.
I really enjoyed that today and Saturday evening has been so much more enjoyable, a complete opposite of last weekend.


I have to say I am delighted that the substitutions worked out but to say it was 'no surprise' is not my view - it was a total surprise to me as those two had never looked like doing that in any previous game! Also, as for McKenna getting his subs spot on, again, he was just doing the same subs he always does. It just so happens that on this occasion, it worked whereas in many others, it hasn't. No great 'messiah moment' for me although I cannot deny it was very welcome and enjoyable!
What you’re looking for in a manager for a team like Ipswich Town doesn't exist in the modern era. Bigger dough (better players) and a Klopp type that you seem to be after could come in the door.
But i feel you’re putting a dampener on your own enjoyment for what is a very good Ipswich Town era. The Messiah stuff always has and always will be a joke……. But for his age and what he’s achieved in a short space of time must get some form of respect. No?
Off topic:
Ruud Van Nistelroy……. Quote: “We’ve only been working for 2 weeks……..” ——>> EXCUSES!
Thats is probably one of the things that i probably like most about kieron Messiahkenna over the past 2 years…….. Very little excuses. The most have been this year and it’s been about officials are VAR ——->>> but he’s been correct.
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by Shed on tour » Sun Dec 15, 2024 12:45 am
Cabanas Blue wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2024 12:27 am
People at the match saying that there goal was from a deflection I didn't notice myself but those saying it were right behind it.
If they were right behind it they must have been in the Wolves end as the town allocation was in one of the side stand. Heard from some people that it got a nick off Clarke but from the angle where I was you couldn’t tell.
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by ITFC2024 » Sun Dec 15, 2024 1:00 am
3pts. That’s all I have to say tonight.
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by arana peligrosa » Sun Dec 15, 2024 3:10 am
Viewed highlights twice if only to gain better understanding of what went on there today. Right off the bat it's three points from an awkward trip where they could just have easily won to increase more pressure on us. Main talking points, vamos a ver : We missed two or three easy chances in front of goal that would have provided greater breathing space, Delap (particularly) appeared to endure a Rosenthal moment but he's done so well for us you can allow him these things. Taylor doesn't score all too often but what a time to get that goal, pity about the end scenes where players from both sides got involved in some incident however the opposition seem to have a brawl at the end of every game, so nothing new.
Still waiting for that elusive home victory after 22 years but by end of season this will prove a pivotal win for the team. Wolverhampton will surely occupy one of the relegation places by final game, all we need do is ensure we stay out of the two others. By some irony both place names are guilty of exporting to the world two of the most reprehensible "music" acts in history but right now, and on the field, we did what was required and took victory from a tough game. So what if they're struggling also, it were always going to be a test for us and on the strength of it, were value for the win. The opposition manager seems to be in a spot of trouble, potential vacancy arising there sometime soon you would imagine.
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by Blue Wilf » Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:29 am
marko69 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2024 12:29 am
Blue Wilf wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:23 pm
Charnwood wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:04 pm
I thought we played well for the vast majority of the game and apart from a short spell when it could have gone either way over 90 mins we deserved our win. Yes we conceded a poor goal and were under heavy pressure for a 10 or 15 mins spell particularly immediately after they scored, but you have to expect that especially when you’re playing away against a fellow struggling team. I thought McKenna got his substitutions spot on and no surprise that it was the two Jacks who assisted and scored the winning goal. It was a perfect set piece corner/header which had clearly been practiced many times on the training ground this week to exploit Wolves known weakness defending set pieces. Jack Taylor’s header was Wolves 20th goal conceded from a set piece so far this season. It was also Taylor’s first Premier League goal and he’s now scored in each of the Top 5 Leagues if English football. I wonder how many midfielders have that on their CV.
I really enjoyed that today and Saturday evening has been so much more enjoyable, a complete opposite of last weekend.


I have to say I am delighted that the substitutions worked out but to say it was 'no surprise' is not my view - it was a total surprise to me as those two had never looked like doing that in any previous game! Also, as for McKenna getting his subs spot on, again, he was just doing the same subs he always does. It just so happens that on this occasion, it worked whereas in many others, it hasn't. No great 'messiah moment' for me although I cannot deny it was very welcome and enjoyable!
What you’re looking for in a manager for a team like Ipswich Town doesn't exist in the modern era. Bigger dough (better players) and a Klopp type that you seem to be after could come in the door.
But i feel you’re putting a dampener on your own enjoyment for what is a very good Ipswich Town era. The Messiah stuff always has and always will be a joke……. But for his age and what he’s achieved in a short space of time must get some form of respect. No?
Off topic:
Ruud Van Nistelroy……. Quote: “We’ve only been working for 2 weeks……..” ——>> EXCUSES!
Thats is probably one of the things that i probably like most about kieron Messiahkenna over the past 2 years…….. Very little excuses. The most have been this year and it’s been about officials are VAR ——->>> but he’s been correct.
I am not looking for anything, Marko. I am happy to have McKenna here and hope he stays. I was just observing that whilst Charny saw the subs as an enlightened decision by McKenna and seems to have been expecting Taylor and Clarke to produce that from their previous performances, I saw the exact opposite. In fact, Clarke has been awful and totally ineffective every time he has played, with the exception of that corner.
I only use the 'Messiah' reference as some on this site (you are one if I am honest), can see absolutely no wrong in anything McKenna does. I think he is great but he is also fallible and at this level, more fallible than ever. I want that to improve. It all worked yesterday and I am delighted it did but it could so easily have gone the other way. Thankfully, it didn't.
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by JohnnyB » Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:33 am
arana peligrosa wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2024 3:10 am
By some irony both place names are guilty of exporting to the world two of the most reprehensible "music" acts in history
Just wondering who you are referring to? Ed Sheeran? Er..Slade?
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by hallamblue » Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:06 am
Just watched motd and it’s clear the debacle at the end of the game is caused by Delap trying , and succeeding, to wind up Wolves players. Immature , unprofessional and now we have lost him for our next game. McKenna was pushing him away from the scene, I hope he gets a good talking too, because his mouth is costing us and he needs to rein it in.
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by hallamblue » Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:09 am
Shed on tour wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2024 12:45 am
Cabanas Blue wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2024 12:27 am
People at the match saying that there goal was from a deflection I didn't notice myself but those saying it were right behind it.
If they were right behind it they must have been in the Wolves end as the town allocation was in one of the side stand. Heard from some people that it got a nick off Clarke but from the angle where I was you couldn’t tell.
I’ve watched it several times now, Tony, and if it took a deflection off Clarke, it was the merest of touches. Muric , had he got his near post angles correct would, should have still saved that. That for me was yet another keeper error. No keeper should be beaten at his near post.
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by Charnwood » Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:12 am
Blue Wilf wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:23 pm
Charnwood wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:04 pm
I thought we played well for the vast majority of the game and apart from a short spell when it could have gone either way over 90 mins we deserved our win. Yes we conceded a poor goal and were under heavy pressure for a 10 or 15 mins spell particularly immediately after they scored, but you have to expect that especially when you’re playing away against a fellow struggling team. I thought McKenna got his substitutions spot on and no surprise that it was the two Jacks who assisted and scored the winning goal. It was a perfect set piece corner/header which had clearly been practiced many times on the training ground this week to exploit Wolves known weakness defending set pieces. Jack Taylor’s header was Wolves 20th goal conceded from a set piece so far this season. It was also Taylor’s first Premier League goal and he’s now scored in each of the Top 5 Leagues if English football. I wonder how many midfielders have that on their CV.
I really enjoyed that today and Saturday evening has been so much more enjoyable, a complete opposite of last weekend.


I have to say I am delighted that the substitutions worked out but to say it was 'no surprise' is not my view - it was a total surprise to me as those two had never looked like doing that in any previous game! Also, as for McKenna getting his subs spot on, again, he was just doing the same subs he always does. It just so happens that on this occasion, it worked whereas in many others, it hasn't. No great 'messiah moment' for me although I cannot deny it was very welcome and enjoyable!
Part of McKenna’s “modus operandi” has always been making impact substitutions, and from what I’ve gleaned from players comments is that our subs when coming on always have a game plan and clear instructions. From how perfect that corner was delivered and hit into the back of the net by Taylor, for me that was no fluke cross that luckily found Taylor in the right spot.
In my opinion those two players had been told, “if/when we get a corner, it’s training ground PLAN B” …. If that wasn’t the case why didn’t Leif take the corner.
As for Jack Clarke, I don’t know what we’ve done to him because he’s not the player he was last season. I watched every televised Sunderland game last year and the guy was brilliant, every bit as good as Omari and destined to go somewhere in the Premier League. For some reason we’ve not seen that, and if we don’t find it for sure another club will because he’ll be away.