Premier League - Ipswich Town vs Newcastle United Preview & Matchday Thread

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

Aye but remember if you don't see Town live your point of view is not worth a jot.

And just who said that? I have scoured this thread, but I don't see where anybody has said that.
Still, if the cap fits.

Even though you may have seen plenty of Town this season with a tv and stick !

Not quite the same, though, is it.

Funny how you responded ?

Really? It was quite obvious who you were alluding too - I didn't need to be an Einstein to figure that out and indeed it certainly was not written by an Einstein.

[JohnnyB]

For me, we need Southampton, Wolves and Leicester to be worse than us. Unless they actually dole out so punishment to citeh, that's it really. I think there's a fair to middle chance of that, personally.

I don't think that is what we need at all - why should we want to rely on 3 clubs being worse than us? That's so defeatist.
What we need is to be better than 3 other clubs, and the onus on that sits squarely with KM.

Hi Rossi

I think we're saying the same thing? Isn't us being better than three clubs exactly the same thing as three clubs being worse than us?

Anyway, the reason I say that is not because I'm defeatist, just that I think this season we have been better than saints, wolves and Leicester so it wouldn't be unrealistic to hope to finish above them. Personally, I would find it argue we've shown ourselves to be superior to anyone else. And in my opinion that is not because of the manager, or tactics, or Muric; it's because the other teams are stronger, more skilled and more experienced. That's just the reality of where we are and who we are.

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

Not quite the same, though, is it.

It may arguably be better.
(SPL alert) ….. When at Easter Road at maybe an important derby match, you see an incident and think, “Pi$$ off, ref” …… Then you cannot wait to catch highlights……. And its, “Jeezo. That should’ve been a red card for the Hibs player!”

lol - but surely in your scenario you've been to watch the game and then want to see the highlights on tv, that's exactly what I do and I'm sure many others are the same. But I still maintain that watching a game on tv - even if it's live - does not give anybody as much insight into what's going on as to actually being there, and I think that's fair comment. One thing I do if I can't get to a game and it's on tv, I mute the commentary

[marko69]

…..and barely did, if truth be known, at Championship level.

Just a wee reminder, Hallam. And I know reels can make anyone good (or bad) ……. But he did ok.

https://youtu.be/WGWKWO4UK1k?si=RBrNCaaMrmZkzhyv

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

For me, we need Southampton, Wolves and Leicester to be worse than us. Unless they actually dole out so punishment to citeh, that's it really. I think there's a fair to middle chance of that, personally.

I don't think that is what we need at all - why should we want to rely on 3 clubs being worse than us? That's so defeatist.
What we need is to be better than 3 other clubs, and the onus on that sits squarely with KM.

Hi Rossi

I think we're saying the same thing? Isn't us being better than three clubs exactly the same thing as three clubs being worse than us?

Anyway, the reason I say that is not because I'm defeatist, just that I think this season we have been better than saints, wolves and Leicester so it wouldn't be unrealistic to hope to finish above them. Personally, I would find it argue we've shown ourselves to be superior to anyone else. And in my opinion that is not because of the manager, or tactics, or Muric; it's because the other teams are stronger, more skilled and more experienced. That's just the reality of where we are and who we are.

Hey Johnny - I can see where you are coming from, and we obviously view things slightly differently. My point was that we should not be reliant on other clubs slipping up - KM is frequently quoted as saying that he concentrates solely on our on results. We may be in the PL ahead of schedule, but we are here nonetheless and ought to be trying to stay there because there is absolutely no guarantee about how long it might take us to get back (another 23 years oerhaps) should we be relegated. It's frustrating to see KM sticking with the same plan when we clearly do not have the players to make it work - surely we have nothing to lose by being more flexible in our approach and mixing things up. And that's the managers job, no?
Cheers

[hallamblue]

Yer, there's some very good goals there. I think he (and Chaplin ) were far less effective once Hirst went out of the side. The goals definitely dried up across the front men.

For me, Burns is either very good or non existent. If he's got the measure of his opponent he's WILLING to continually take him on. If he hasn't, I think he hides. He's much much more effective running onto the ball put into the space behind him. Give the ball to his feet and hes stationary, zilch happens. Omari by contrast will always try yo beat his man and will do.it on the run of from a static position. Fir me Omari I'd streets ahead of Butns in that position. But McKenna won't play him will he.

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

…..and barely did, if truth be known, at Championship level.

Just a wee reminder, Hallam. And I know reels can make anyone good (or bad) ……. But he did ok.

https://youtu.be/WGWKWO4UK1k?si=RBrNCaaMrmZkzhyv

as far as Burns is concerned, I remember having a conversation with Mike shortly after we signed Burns in which Mike asked me what I thought of the signing. My reply was that I was unimpressed - Burns could not cut it in the PL as a young player and was constantly loaned out to lower league clubs before being sold to one. I believe he found his niche with Fleetwood, and probably should have stayed there.

[Charnwood]

This, for me, has been the most fascinating thread on this forum for ages - those who can see the mistakes that KM is making (Mike, Wilf, Hallam, myself, to name a few), and those who think the sun still shines out of KM's @rsehole (Marko, Valley, MMJ, etc). Oh, and others like Charnwood who seem to do their best to sit on the fence. It's interesting that the ones firmly in the KM is the messiah camp are the ones who don't get to watch the team live - maybe that means something? Maybe not, I don't know.

In my view, this upcoming transfer window is not going to make a blind bit of difference to the squad - we will get new players in of course, but they will not be any better than we already have. Anybody who thinks that players of quality are going to want to come and play for Ipswich is living in a fantasy world.

It's looking already as though we are nailed on for relegation. I don't want us to be relegated, because if that happens there is absolutely no telling how long it might take us to get back up again (if ever).

We absolutely have a chance of staying up, but for that to happen KM must change his approach. His interview after the game disappointed me - he seemed (in a roundabout and underhand way) to put all of the blame onto the players and to entirely disregard that which he must take the blame for.
He has to realise that the way he wants the game to be played requires much better players than we have or indeed are ever likely to have. Instead, he needs to look at what he does have available and choose an approach that best suits them. And be flexible in that approach, and realise that he cannot play the same system in every game. If he can not or will not do that, then I think he should ship out - this club is bigger and far more important than him and his own personal ambitions.

One thing I’m not well known for Rossi is sitting on the fence, and I thought my position on McKenna was clear. So, if you’re too dumb to work out what my position is I’ll clarify it for you.
I think he’s one of the best young coaches in English football and has the ability to take this club to the highest level since the days of Sir Bobby Robson but it’s not going to happen quickly. I certainly wouldn’t want to see him sacked and given £17m in compensation which would restrict our spending in the transfer market by the same amount. Do I think we could replace him with someone better who would be happy to come here, No I don’t. Do I think he’s made a few mistakes, Yes I do. Can he improve, yes he can and he’s said himself he’s learning as we go along.
I still believe our best chance of staying in this league is with McKenna not without him.
Do I think you could do a better job Rossi, No I don’t and that goes for anyone else on here who thinks they know better.

For what it’s worth, I also think anyone who watches every game live on tv will have seen as much if not more than anyone who goes to Portman Road for every home game. I think the two main differences between being at the game or watching live on tv are, in the ground the atmosphere is real, whilst on tv you see more plus have the benefit of action replays. Given this I think your observation is pretty irrelevant.

[valleyroad]

…..and barely did, if truth be known, at Championship level.

Just a wee reminder, Hallam. And I know reels can make anyone good (or bad) ……. But he did ok.

https://youtu.be/WGWKWO4UK1k?si=RBrNCaaMrmZkzhyv

as far as Burns is concerned, I remember having a conversation with Mike shortly after we signed Burns in which Mike asked me what I thought of the signing. My reply was that I was unimpressed - Burns could not cut it in the PL as a young player and was constantly loaned out to lower league clubs before being sold to one. I believe he found his niche with Fleetwood, and probably should have stayed there.

I guess you were correct in your assessment as always with his Wales caps, Championship and League 1 medals as well as regular starts in Premiership

[Ricco]

I guess you were correct in your assessment as always with his Wales caps, Championship and League 1 medals as well as regular starts in Premiership

Well at least that's our January strategy sorted, we'll just buy all of Fleetwood's players if they're of Burn's quality. Should be able to turn a healthy profit on that!

[valleyroad]

I guess you were correct in your assessment as always with his Wales caps, Championship and League 1 medals as well as regular starts in Premiership

Well at least that's our January strategy sorted, we'll just buy all of Fleetwood's players if they're of Burn's quality. Should be able to turn a healthy profit on that!

Burns has done job for Town over the last few seasons. I agree he is struggling at PL level and is probably best used as impact sub when defences are tiring with his pace.
There is no doubt though that he was a good signing by the club overall.

[marko69]

I guess you were correct in your assessment as always with his Wales caps, Championship and League 1 medals as well as regular starts in Premiership

Well at least that's our January strategy sorted, we'll just buy all of Fleetwood's players if they're of Burn's quality. Should be able to turn a healthy profit on that!

Burns has done job for Town over the last few seasons. I agree he is struggling at PL level and is probably best used as impact sub when defences are tiring with his pace.
There is no doubt though that he was a good signing by the club overall.

Yep.

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

One thing I’m not well known for Rossi is sitting on the fence, and I thought my position on McKenna was clear. So, if you’re too dumb to work out what my position is I’ll clarify it for you.
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Dumb? Me, dumb? Let me assure you that I'm not, although I'll concede that I can be a little slow on the uptake at times. But as an MSc (dist), I'm betting that I'm at least academically equal to you if not better, so don't ever call me dumb.
I was under the impression that a direct personal insult (such as calling somebody dumb) was against the rules of this forum, obviously I'm mistaken. But I have to say that it grieves me that a man who has, in the past, proudly proclaimed his credentials in upper management, resorts to a personal insult. If that's the way it is then fine, I'll happily play .
I do see you as a person that sits on the fence - sorry if you don't like that bit it's how you come across to me, and you're right, I don't know you from Adam so can form an opinion merely on what you have posted on this forum over the years .

For what it’s worth, I also think anyone who watches every game live on tv will have seen as much if not more than anyone who goes to Portman Road for every home game. I think the two main differences between being at the game or watching live on tv are, in the ground the atmosphere is real, whilst on tv you see more plus have the benefit of action replays. Given this I think your observation is pretty irrelevant.

When you watch a game live on tv, do you see all of the off-ball movement? Do you see the free spaces on the pitch? Or do you see only a small area of the game in play?
Granted live tv has action replays, but most of us who go to games watch highlights on tv later at least once.
So you may think my opinion on that is irrelevant - I don't.

Anyway - rant over. Merry Christmas

[Ricco]

But as an MSc (dist), I'm betting that I'm at least academically equal to you if not better, so don't ever call me dumb.

I work in a building where 90% of the occupants have MSc in front of their names and many are among the 'dumbest' people I know

Not calling you dumb Rossi, just suggesting that it's not a great yardstick of intelligence!!!

[mugen1]

It's Christmas, let's be kind to each other folks We're all passionate about this club and we all want to see it performing at the highest levels possible. On that, we can all agree. Merry Christmas!

[Ricco]

[marko69]

But as an MSc (dist), I'm betting that I'm at least academically equal to you if not better, so don't ever call me dumb.

I work in a building where 90% of the occupants have MSc in front of their names and many are among the 'dumbest' people I know

Not calling you dumb Rossi, just suggesting that it's not a great yardstick of intelligence!!!

Yep, my big bro. Pharmaceutical Chemist but now works for a company doing a job that “apparently” only a handful in the world are qualified to do…… Msc, Bsc, & a whole host of other letters…… Loaded, big hoose, top of the range Tesla etc etc…….

….. but…… common sense?

F@@KING ZERO!

Few years ago, wanted me to upgrade his entire heating system. Which we did.
But on arrival, there was a new carpet smell……..
“Whats going on?”
“Yeah, i got a few new carpets dotted about.”
“BEFORE I INSTALL NEW HEATING YA BAWBAG?!”

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

But as an MSc (dist), I'm betting that I'm at least academically equal to you if not better, so don't ever call me dumb.

I work in a building where 90% of the occupants have MSc in front of their names and many are among the 'dumbest' people I know

Not calling you dumb Rossi, just suggesting that it's not a great yardstick of intelligence!!!

I never mentioned intelligence, if you read again what you quoted above you will see that I mentioned only "academically" - everybody knows that academic and intelligence are completely different.

[Ricco]

….. but…… common sense?

F@@KING ZERO!

My favourite is when Mr puffed out chest Electrophysiologist, with 300 titles before his name, walks in to talk about one of his set ups... the look of fear and horror on his face when I asked if he could wire up one of the mains plugs

I never mentioned intelligence, if you read again what you quoted above you will see that I mentioned only "academically" - everybody knows that academic and intelligence are completely different.

You were talking about being dumb, the opposite of dumb is intelligent... I'm pretty sure we all knew you were insinuating. As I point out, I'm not calling you dumb in the slightest, I'm not starting an argument, and as you point out, there are a million ways you can be intelligent!

[Bluemike]

What's dumb is continually picking Muric, that's as dumb as it gets.

[valleyroad]

But as an MSc (dist), I'm betting that I'm at least academically equal to you if not better, so don't ever call me dumb.

I work in a building where 90% of the occupants have MSc in front of their names and many are among the 'dumbest' people I know

Not calling you dumb Rossi, just suggesting that it's not a great yardstick of intelligence!!!

I never mentioned intelligence, if you read again what you quoted above you will see that I mentioned only "academically" - everybody knows that academic and intelligence are completely different.

I think you really need to get over yourself. There are many people who are every bit as able as you, some probably better qualified than you and have held I can bet way more senior roles than you.
What you really need to ask yourself is why you are continually getting into fights with numerous people on this forum ?

[barmy billy]

I can understand how Charnwood makes Rossi feel & I gave up discussing things with him years ago.

I have always found Charnwood arrogant, patronising in the extreme & totally up himself.

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

I think you really need to get over yourself. There are many people who are every bit as able as you, some probably better qualified than you and have held I can bet way more senior roles than you.

I'm not saying there are not many people on here who are as able as me, that's just you trying to goad me as usual - but just so you know, I do actually hold a very senior position within the IT Infrastructure section of the global company I work for. Sorry to disappoint you, but that's completely true.

What you really need to ask yourself is why you are continually getting into fights with numerous people on this forum ?

I don't need to ask myself anything of the sort thank you very much - I'm perfectly comfortable with myself the way I am. Oh, and I only get into fights (as you put it, though I would call them discussions) with people whose opinions I find somewhat tiresome

[valleyroad]

I think you really need to get over yourself. There are many people who are every bit as able as you, some probably better qualified than you and have held I can bet way more senior roles than you.

I'm not saying there are not many people on here who are as able as me, that's just you trying to goad me as usual - but just so you know, I do actually hold a very senior position within the IT Infrastructure section of the global company I work for. Sorry to disappoint you, but that's completely true.

What you really need to ask yourself is why you are continually getting into fights with numerous people on this forum ?

I don't need to ask myself anything of the sort thank you very much - I'm perfectly comfortable with myself the way I am. Oh, and I only get into fights (as you put it, though I would call them discussions) with people whose opinions I find somewhat tiresome

I'm not goading you I'm challenging you there is a difference.
I also couldn't care less what position you hold in any company it makes no difference to me. The fact you mentioned it says a lot in itself !
I didn't surprise me that you wouldn't ask yourself anything it fits your character.

I hate your patronising wink emoji's that you add to all your posts btw !

[marko69]

……the look of fear and horror on his face when I asked if he could wire up one of the mains plugs

Ok……. Ricco has alluded to this but it’s dangerous so please do get an electrician……. But if you can’t afford one……. Easy tip…… blue is neutral……. Brown is the same colour as the soil, so that’s earth……. And the norwich green n yellow b*stard…… just snip that off.

Sorted.

[Ricco]

Ok……. Ricco has alluded to this but it’s dangerous so please do get an electrician……. But if you can’t afford one……. Easy tip…… blue is neutral……. Brown is the same colour as the soil, so that’s earth……. And the norwich green n yellow b*stard…… just snip that off.

Sorted.

Perfect... but you have missed the important step of making sure you're touching some bare metal on the kit when you first turn it on... so you can feel if it's getting too hot, it helps if you do this while touching some other metal nearby to get a good temperature comparison

[marko69]

Ok……. Ricco has alluded to this but it’s dangerous so please do get an electrician……. But if you can’t afford one……. Easy tip…… blue is neutral……. Brown is the same colour as the soil, so that’s earth……. And the norwich green n yellow b*stard…… just snip that off.

Sorted.

Perfect... but you have missed the important step of making sure you're touching some bare metal on the kit when you first turn it on... so you can feel if it's getting too hot, it helps if you do this while touching some other metal nearby to get a good temperature comparison

Oh yes, for sure……. And an example of an important step would be a “youngmans” step-ladder making sure the holy steel toecaps are showing through.
You’ll be buzzin’ when the jobs done!

[Ricco]

Ok……. Ricco has alluded to this but it’s dangerous so please do get an electrician……. But if you can’t afford one……. Easy tip…… blue is neutral……. Brown is the same colour as the soil, so that’s earth……. And the norwich green n yellow b*stard…… just snip that off.

Sorted.

Perfect... but you have missed the important step of making sure you're touching some bare metal on the kit when you first turn it on... so you can feel if it's getting too hot, it helps if you do this while touching some other metal nearby to get a good temperature comparison

Oh yes, for sure……. And an example of an important step would be a “youngmans” step-ladder making sure the holy steel toecaps are showing through.
You’ll be buzzin’ when the jobs done!

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[mugen1]

What's dumb is continually picking Muric, that's as dumb as it gets.

100% this!

[marko69]

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