Premier League - Ipswich Town vs Nottingham Forest Preview & Matchday Thread

[mendipblue]

Well that was f**king crap. Enciso is having a mare constantly giving the ball away. We are playing far to slow "AGAIN". Don't know what the answer is. I would take Enciso and Philogene off bring Broadhead and Hirst on.

[Cabanas Blue]

What I would like is NO promotion from the Championship, I say f#uck premier League it's just not a level playing field let the greedy Bar Stewards play with themselves.

[Steve and Jo]

And Wolves are beating Southampton... Ooh what a fun day

[Cabanas Blue]

Poor from Delap

[Charnwood]

Delaps free header on 50 mins is our second clear chance miss neither of which were on target. This is why we can’t get into the game. Free chances with no opponent close simply have to hit the target.

[Charnwood]

Wolves 2 up now at Southampton. It looks highly likely now that all three promoted clubs will be going down again. I don’t think it’s anything to be ashamed of it’s simply a consequence of the current structure of the Premier League.

[MMJR67]

I have enjoyed this match the least of all matches this season.

Poor first touches, poor defending, no clue who to pass too.

Far too lightweight for this league. Sad state of affairs.

[Charnwood]

Wow what a lovely well taken goal from Jens Cajuste. 1-3

[Bluemike]

Simply horrific, time for change

[Cabanas Blue]

Nice header from Hirst

[Charnwood]

Nice second Town goal from George Hurst. If Delap could head a ball like that we’d have scored three.

[marko69]

Bloody Hibs and their 90(+2) concessions!!

Ipswich Town? People bang on about Gamechanger and the backroom staff being great, Mashton etc etc. Well today is an EXCELLENT day for Ipswich Town FC. Pumped by a better side in an impossible league and Wolves all but consigning the club to relegation.

Time to put the childish "Messiah" stuff to one side, have a grown up conversation about the future. There is now PLENTY time to get things ready for 25/26 in the Championship. A bit like getting knocked out a Cup. Concentrate on next season. Whether that is with Kieron McKenna or not, no one knows. For me, in a non bum-lick way, if the club stick with him, (and if he's not emptied before seasons end) then I'd be ok with that. Only because he's tested in the Championship with a 0.5 League One squad......., but if a change is made, I'd be ok with that too.

But today is a positive for one reason only ---->>>>>> MOVING FWD from the premature EPL season.

[Steve and Jo]

Bloody Hibs and their 90(+2) concessions!!

Ipswich Town? People bang on about Gamechanger and the backroom staff being great, Mashton etc etc. Well today is an EXCELLENT day for Ipswich Town FC. Pumped by a better side in an impossible league and Wolves all but consigning the club to relegation.

Time to put the childish "Messiah" stuff to one side, have a grown up conversation about the future. There is now PLENTY time to get things ready for 25/26 in the Championship. A bit like getting knocked out a Cup. Concentrate on next season. Whether that is with Kieron McKenna or not, no one knows. For me, in a non bum-lick way, if the club stick with him, (and if he's not emptied before seasons end) then I'd be ok with that. Only because he's tested in the Championship with a 0.5 League One squad......., but if a change is made, I'd be ok with that too.

But today is a positive for one reason only ---->>>>>> MOVING FWD from the premature EPL season.

Well said Marko, totally agree

WORD !!!

[WarsawBlue]

At least we didn't lose our special record of being the only team in all 4 tiers of the PL/EFL not to win a game in 2025! My Viaplay subscription expires just before the last day of the season - thank god for that. If I could trade those 'rescue shares' I think I would! (Don't worry, I'll feel better in August - with a new manager and a group of players that know each other again.)

[MasseyFerguson]

Bloody Hibs and their 90(+2) concessions!!

Ipswich Town? People bang on about Gamechanger and the backroom staff being great, Mashton etc etc. Well today is an EXCELLENT day for Ipswich Town FC. Pumped by a better side in an impossible league and Wolves all but consigning the club to relegation.

Time to put the childish "Messiah" stuff to one side, have a grown up conversation about the future. There is now PLENTY time to get things ready for 25/26 in the Championship. A bit like getting knocked out a Cup. Concentrate on next season. Whether that is with Kieron McKenna or not, no one knows. For me, in a non bum-lick way, if the club stick with him, (and if he's not emptied before seasons end) then I'd be ok with that. Only because he's tested in the Championship with a 0.5 League One squad......., but if a change is made, I'd be ok with that too.

But today is a positive for one reason only ---->>>>>> MOVING FWD from the premature EPL season.

I agree with all of this.

[ashfordblue]

Why doesn't KM make the changes a lot sooner, it seems as though KM has given up for this season, Hirst and Broadhead, Hutchinson, Philogen, Encisco, Cajuste, should be on from the start. The back four: Townsend, Burgess, O'Shea, Tuanzebe, Bench the rest

We must invest in a much stronger defence, it's been our downfall this season. The only real quality full back is Axel, the rest are pish as Marco would say, would signing Hearts Lawrence Shankland be any better up top ??? I still think that Kieran McKenna will move on to pastures new next season and we can employ a better qualified manager for another go next season.

[hallamblue]

Same, sh it , different day.

Just WHEN is McKenna going to learn?
All our experience on the bench until the 80+mins then he brings them on.

WHAT'S THE POINT???

Dont be surprised if Hirst sticks in a transfer request in the summer, and I wouldn't blame him one bit. He is such a good striker and he's wasted here under McKenna in my view.
I'll be honest eith you all, Delap offered nothing g all afternoon. So why not make the change at half time?

Defence once again powder puff, and absolutely crap CB performances from Greaves and Woolfenden IMHO . Our best CB played at right back. Why?

Why no Broadhead, AGAIN, whilst that powder Philogene starts yet again. Expect Broadhead to leave in the summer, too.


Never-ending... " trust the process" eh!

SO passed off with the sh it week after week now. It's not the fact we are getting beaten. I've expected thus. But I AM pissed off with is McKennas inability to change formation. FFS Man, LEARN!!!!

[valleyroad]

Same, sh it , different day.

Just WHEN is McKenna going to learn?
All our experience on the bench until the 80+mins then he brings them on.

WHAT'S THE POINT???

Dont be surprised if Hirst sticks in a transfer request in the summer, and I wouldn't blame him one bit. He is such a good striker and he's wasted here under McKenna in my view.
I'll be honest eith you all, Delap offered nothing g all afternoon. So why not make the change at half time?

Defence once again powder puff, and absolutely crap CB performances from Greaves and Woolfenden IMHO . Our best CB played at right back. Why?

Why no Broadhead, AGAIN, whilst that powder Philogene starts yet again. Expect Broadhead to leave in the summer, too.


Never-ending... " trust the process" eh!

SO passed off with the sh it week after week now. It's not the fact we are getting beaten. I've expected thus. But I AM pissed off with is McKennas inability to change formation. FFS Man, LEARN!!!!

George Hirst is where he is today because of Kieron McKenna.
If McKenna stays then he will be a big part of next season.

[ITFC2024]

The majority of our players don’t seem to understand what they’re supposed to be doing. There’s rarely any movement off the ball. Defensively we’re just not very good as a unit. There’s lack of communication all over the pitch. Either KM is not getting the message across, or the players are incapable of executing his plan.

I’m hoping we go back to the basics for the ensuing Championship season in addition to recruiting some physical strength into the squad.

[The Odious Mr Rossi]

KM will definitely be manager here next season unless he is sacked.

He's proved that he can't manage at PL level, so that leaves him the option only to go to another Championship club; and given the fact that we will have parachute money to burn I can't see that happening.

But next season does worry me - the players confidence in themselves must be shot to pieces with so many defeats, so that does not bode well. And to me, the players today looked distinctly unhappy - I wonder what sort of place the dressing room is in given KM's persistence in playing players out of position, favouring certain players, and his general sterile approach.

[EveryoneKnowsaDave]

The players need to take responsibility here as well. I fully agree KM has been substandard with his approach but the players are quite simply not good enough.

Delap was awful today, first goal clearly his fault alongside Greaves not communicating again. Delap not passing on several occasions in attack as well. Stop being so 'kin greedy... every week.

Third goal was ridiculous, straight from the u12s, ball goes from one end to the other complately unchallenged. That's not the manager.

Cajuste far too good for this team. Pure class.

So many times we don't even hit the target and sky it over or wide. Just not good enough. Need to take the chances when they arise.

[marko69]

…..would signing Hearts Lawrence Shankland be any better…..

Definitely not, Ash. Nothing to do with the club he’s associated with, nothing AT ALL, (well, a little bit)
Because he is the “top bloke” @ Hearts, that makes you watch his “play” a lot closer at a live match. And i must say, unless it’s on a plate, he’s nothing special.
Ipswich in their current form, with no one able to put anything on a plate for Delap, then big no.

Obviously things could change in 5 months and he could be in a Town shirt, but he’d be another Sears, Ladapo, Al Hamadi ——>> useless.

[valleyroad]

KM will definitely be manager here next season unless he is sacked.

He's proved that he can't manage at PL level, so that leaves him the option only to go to another Championship club; and given the fact that we will have parachute money to burn I can't see that happening.

But next season does worry me - the players confidence in themselves must be shot to pieces with so many defeats, so that does not bode well. And to me, the players today looked distinctly unhappy - I wonder what sort of place the dressing room is in given KM's persistence in playing players out of position, favouring certain players, and his general sterile approach.

Do you think Kompany can manage at Premiership level ??
I think the wider question is why 2 seasons in a row all promoted clubs have been relegated
Maybe the quality of player willing to come to the club, the fee and wages the club are limited to may have something to do with it.
If McKenna stays he needs a good start or PR will be toxic

[marko69]

If the truth were known, the toxicity of Portman Road come seasons end could result in a new face being introduced over the summer. I wouldnt be against it.
Can’t speak for everyone, but I certainly wouldn’t like to see people pounce on the guy when an inevitable negative result comes along. It’d drive me away worse than the Jack Ross debacle at ER.
Ashford has already used the words “someone better qualified” …. but he’s already qualified at that level.
So with that mindset in thousands of fans heads, it’ll turn toxic fairly quick. Probably better a new guy in the door for a fresh Championship season.

[Frosty]

I'm going to upset forum members from the wrong side of the wall, who are doubtless expecting another odious and negative prediction from me: Town 3 - Forest 1

you were only a whisker away there with that one Gary

[Blue Wilf]

If the truth were known, the toxicity of Portman Road come seasons end could result in a new face being introduced over the summer. I wouldnt be against it.
Can’t speak for everyone, but I certainly wouldn’t like to see people pounce on the guy when an inevitable negative result comes along. It’d drive me away worse than the Jack Ross debacle at ER.
Ashford has already used the words “someone better qualified” …. but he’s already qualified at that level.
So with that mindset in thousands of fans heads, it’ll turn toxic fairly quick. Probably better a new guy in the door for a fresh Championship season.

I am not sure that there will be toxicity to be honest. I have been saying for months that most don't want KM to go if we go down. I am one of those and still believe it. If we are not towards the too by Xmas though, then it may get toxic and we should think again. Nothing has changed for me in terms of what I think should happen (ie KM if he plans to stay but if he is gonna go then get shot now and plan for next season with a new guy).

We have effectively been down since we lost to Southampton and the demise has continued. I am ready for next season and just hope Ashton et al have a plan that they will start to execute immediately.

[marko69]

Would be a massive gamble getting someone new in before THIS season ends. Unless a caretaker took over for the remainder.

The LAST thing Ipswich need is a new guy coming in for 5 or 6 EPL games before a Championship season. All it would take is for those games to tank massively and the club are on a slippery slope to a mid Championship to lower championship season.

[valleyroad]

If the truth were known, the toxicity of Portman Road come seasons end could result in a new face being introduced over the summer. I wouldnt be against it.
Can’t speak for everyone, but I certainly wouldn’t like to see people pounce on the guy when an inevitable negative result comes along. It’d drive me away worse than the Jack Ross debacle at ER.
Ashford has already used the words “someone better qualified” …. but he’s already qualified at that level.
So with that mindset in thousands of fans heads, it’ll turn toxic fairly quick. Probably better a new guy in the door for a fresh Championship season.

I am not sure that there will be toxicity to be honest. I have been saying for months that most don't want KM to go if we go down. I am one of those and still believe it. If we are not towards the too by Xmas though, then it may get toxic and we should think again. Nothing has changed for me in terms of what I think should happen (ie KM if he plans to stay but if he is gonna go then get shot now and plan for next season with a new guy).

We have effectively been down since we lost to Southampton and the demise has continued. I am ready for next season and just hope Ashton et al have a plan that they will start to execute immediately.

I think they are already executing that plan with some of the recruitment that has been done.
The expectation levels will be high next season and it won't long for the moron element to appear if the start is poor. Having said that I don't think that will happen as I reckon Town will be strong next season. With or without McKenna. If McKenna leaves the next appointment is crucial.

[Charnwood]

To be honest I don’t see any point in changing the manager. It looks almost a nailed on certainty that we’ll be playing Championship football next season and most of the players are amongst the best Championship players from last season. It’s highly unlikely that any player other than Delap will attract any Premiership interest including Davis who’s defending will have been found out this term.
At best we’ll be a yo-yo club until we can spend more money and add to the current squad assuming that most stick with the club and either McKenna. Whether we could bridge the gap at a second attempt could prove interesting but only time will tell, same with McKenna, would he be better next time round.
One thing for sure, it’s almost certain we’ll have the chance to find out.

[Blue Wilf]

Lets hope we are strong and the plan is effective.