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A new manager...

Post by Dazza » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:05 am

Ok we've all been saying lets get in a young manager who will have a 3 or 4 year plan to get us back into the premiership with our youngsters. Sounds good on paper... but is this what we really need? I'm starting to think we need an experienced manager who can do well in a relagation dog fight...

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Post by nieros » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:07 am

Lawrie Sanchez

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Post by Diddy Dubz » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:08 am

Jesus Christ - I hear he worked miracles a few years back

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Post by Bluebird » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:09 am

IMO we need both, bring in an experienced chap with a younger assistant who could be groomed to take the role on, giving us stability into the medium term future.

How about Robson & Mowbrey :wink:

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Post by the-mole » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:13 am

On paper I believe we have a squad who shouldn't be fighting relegation. Therefore I believe we should be looking to build for the future. Royle hasn't been about building like Burley did before him. Royle has been about patching up and fingers crossed. This is short sighted and is now leaving us in a dangerous position.

I think we need to look long term and build for the future. So we might not get relegated this season, but where does that leave us next season? No further forward, a few less experienced players and a few youngsters still not experienced enough for get stuck in.

To me it is one and the same, building whilst fighting relegation. The character and experience the youngsters could gain from this season would make them stronger better players long term. However the leadership needs to be right, which at present is far from happening. Too many people have gotten too comfortable at this club and it is time to shake things up, a shake up which should have happened when we got relegated!!

Luke

Post by Luke » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:16 am

George Burley

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Post by Earl Blue » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:20 am

Luke wrote:George Burley
Terry Butcher

Luke

Post by Luke » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:21 am

Earl Blue wrote:
Luke wrote:George Burley
Terry Butcher
Lets compramise. Burley and Butcher :wink: :lol: *wakes up out of dream land* :lol:

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Post by Earl Blue » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:23 am

Luke wrote:
Earl Blue wrote:
Luke wrote:George Burley
Terry Butcher
Lets compramise. Burley and Butcher :wink: :lol: *wakes up out of dream land* :lol:[/quote

Lol Defensive replacements already..

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Post by sirbobby » Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:42 am

Kevin Keegan

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Post by clethbridge8 » Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:45 am

Clive woodwood

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Post by phily bon bon » Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:27 pm

clethbridge8 wrote:Clive woodwood

clint Eastwood :shock:

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Post by the-mole » Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:29 pm

phily bon bon wrote:
clethbridge8 wrote:Clive woodwood

clint Eastwood :shock:
I vote THE-MOLE for prime minister then appoint an ITFC secretary to oversee the development of the greatest smaller club in world footy!!

Tax payers will finally pay for ITFC to become great once more!!!

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Post by hallamblue » Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:37 pm

Luke wrote:George Burley
that was the first name I thought of Luke !

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Post by hallamblue » Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:38 pm

sirbobby wrote:Kevin Keegan
now I know yer 'avin a larf....he has a history of doing a runner when ever the going gets tough !

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Post by Earl Blue » Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:03 pm

hallamblue wrote:
sirbobby wrote:Kevin Keegan
now I know yer 'avin a larf....he has a history of doing a runner when ever the going gets tough !

He is however faster than De Vos when doing a runner..

:roll:

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Post by Himple » Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:04 pm

Burley for me

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Post by hallamblue » Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:04 pm

so's my gran - and she's been dead this past ten years !

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Post by DEVONBLUE » Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:23 pm

Dazza you make me laugh ! :lol: . When BFJ joined a couple of seasons or so back he was a God, and when I expressed my doubts about his appointment I came in for fair amount of flak on this site I can tell you.

We all knew Town would struggle this season, and as I said earlier in the season we look like relegation fodder, and I do hope I'm wrong. But I really can't blame the state of the team on BFJ. From the word go he was up against it, with the club going straight into admin pretty much as he took over. Once again did Sheepy tell him the truth in the interview ?.

So really, the person who needs removing is Sheepy, as it is he who appointed BFJ, and brought our club to its knee's.

Just to finish I would like Tony Mowbray as the next Ipswich manager.

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Post by hallamblue » Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:43 pm

the-mole wrote:On paper I believe we have a squad who shouldn't be fighting relegation. Therefore I believe we should be looking to build for the future. Royle hasn't been about building like Burley did before him. Royle has been about patching up and fingers crossed. This is short sighted and is now leaving us in a dangerous position.

I think we need to look long term and build for the future. So we might not get relegated this season, but where does that leave us next season? No further forward, a few less experienced players and a few youngsters still not experienced enough for get stuck in.

To me it is one and the same, building whilst fighting relegation. The character and experience the youngsters could gain from this season would make them stronger better players long term. However the leadership needs to be right, which at present is far from happening. Too many people have gotten too comfortable at this club and it is time to shake things up, a shake up which should have happened when we got relegated!!
whilst I agree with what you say mole....I think the crucial difference between the two managers' situations is , one had loads of money ...the other has zilch ...hence the "patching up and crossing of fingers" !!

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Post by Earl Blue » Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:48 pm

Dave Penny after watching how his Doncaster team won with
true grit and determination tonight..

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Post by Drunken Munky » Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:21 pm

JR for me

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Post by Dazza » Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:52 pm

DEVONBLUE wrote:Dazza you make me laugh ! :lol: . When BFJ joined a couple of seasons or so back he was a God, and when I expressed my doubts about his appointment I came in for fair amount of flak on this site I can tell you.

We all knew Town would struggle this season, and as I said earlier in the season we look like relegation fodder, and I do hope I'm wrong. But I really can't blame the state of the team on BFJ. From the word go he was up against it, with the club going straight into admin pretty much as he took over. Once again did Sheepy tell him the truth in the interview ?.

So really, the person who needs removing is Sheepy, as it is he who appointed BFJ, and brought our club to its knee's.

Just to finish I would like Tony Mowbray as the next Ipswich manager.
I'm a massive fan of JR, always have been always probably will be. I just think its time we looked at the future, if JR wants to stay around for another 3 or 4 years then fine, lets get him and start building. If not, lets get someone in now, because this season isnt going to plan and we should use it as a starting block.

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Post by Kheffan » Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:50 am

Earl Blue wrote:Dave Penny after watching how his Doncaster team won with
true grit and determination tonight..
isn't it a shame for the most part that we have none of the above.

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Post by the-mole » Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:04 am

hallamblue wrote:
the-mole wrote:On paper I believe we have a squad who shouldn't be fighting relegation. Therefore I believe we should be looking to build for the future. Royle hasn't been about building like Burley did before him. Royle has been about patching up and fingers crossed. This is short sighted and is now leaving us in a dangerous position.

I think we need to look long term and build for the future. So we might not get relegated this season, but where does that leave us next season? No further forward, a few less experienced players and a few youngsters still not experienced enough for get stuck in.

To me it is one and the same, building whilst fighting relegation. The character and experience the youngsters could gain from this season would make them stronger better players long term. However the leadership needs to be right, which at present is far from happening. Too many people have gotten too comfortable at this club and it is time to shake things up, a shake up which should have happened when we got relegated!!
whilst I agree with what you say mole....I think the crucial difference between the two managers' situations is , one had loads of money ...the other has zilch ...hence the "patching up and crossing of fingers" !!
Actually Hallam if you exclude the premiership Burley had no money either. He was always forced to sell before he could buy. My point is, Burley would give youth a go before going out and buying someone. ROyle would rather bring in Dad's Army then give too many of our youngsters a blast. Burley was slowly building the squad for our play off success and obviously the season that followed. Royle has been patching up with short term replacements since he got here chap.

Burley knew the only way to get the youngsters to a standard where they could compete was to throw them in. We saw the likes of Tony Vaughan, Wayne Brown, Richard Wright, Richard Naylor, Scowcroft, titus bramble, Kieron Dyer, Darren Ambrose and Darren Bent given a chance. The players he brought in (mowbray apart) were players who would be here for the longer term - David Johnson, Jamie Clapham & Fabian Wilnis. Yes those players cost money but that was through enforced player sales. Rather than patch it up he looked to improve the squad with every player sale and purchase.

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Post by Munty » Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:30 am

Potato head is not the man for Ipswich, with such a crop of young players (we won the bloody FA Youth Cup for Cliffs sake!!!) we should be seeing more of these players making an impact. I am getting a bit tired of the dads army gravey train birgade..... there is no way if George was in charge we would be in this position!!

If we could get Georgie back I would be delighted, if not it would be great to see big Terry Butcher.... then I would rather have Mr Blobby and Noel Edmonds than Royle and Sheepshanks!!

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