Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

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Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

Post by herforder » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:43 pm

Reports suggesting that CS may be on his way to H'field, on loan, for second half of the season.

If true - and, given his lack of significant match time here, seems credible - it will leave us dangerously short of striker cover. Presumably MM will be actively looking to bring in someone of suitable quality should CS depart. Whilst CS has always given his all when coming on from the bench but, despite lack of real opportunities, has never convinced that he would be an adequate replacement for Didsy or Murph. And I guess that will be MM's challenge in trying to recruit a quality loanee - eg Chris Wood, or someone of his ilk.

An interesting development that might have a positive outcome.

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Re: Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

Post by Dubai Blue » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:56 pm

If it's true then I would suggest that it means that MM already has someone lined up.

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Post by hallamblue » Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:41 pm

Williams again?.....or a Man Utd youngster we were watching at carrott roood recdntly?

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Post by Bluemike » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:20 pm

No way will it be Williams and besides he isnt a striker. If this does prove to be correct there has to be someone else lined up as Noel Hunt and Balint Bajner are the only other options.

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Re: Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

Post by hallamblue » Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:39 pm

I know he isnt a striker. But hes a potential scoring midfielder and him with McG and Murph would / has been a potent strike force.

if he's not injured now and not making the Palace first team i know MM has said he would love him back here....so why not?

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Post by itfc76trev » Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:01 pm

We seriously need cover for the strikers bajner nor sammon fill me with confidence that they can/will score goals

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Re: Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

Post by Bluemike » Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:49 pm

I honestly dont think we need Williams or any other midfielders.

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Re: Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

Post by herforder » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:18 am

Disagree slightly! I think we would benefit from a strong, forward thinking, midfield 'general', able to organise and pull the whole midfield together. Not criticising current lads, but in terms of continuous improvement I think we would be that much stronger.

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Re: Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

Post by Dubai Blue » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:48 am

Not sure if this is the time of the season to introduce a new 'general'. I think the team is well bound together. Any newcomer who comes in and is intended to take an immediate place in the team needs to compliment and fit in with a successful unit. Adding a new general would be severely disruptive in my view.

Personally I think any additions need to be back-up options, so as not to disturb what is clearly a well motivated and close knit team unit. Sammon was ok in my view, not spectacular but very capable of putting himself about and drawing in defenders to make space for others. This is probably a key feature for striker subs coming on late in games against tired defences. Personally I would have used him more this way than MM has but I think MM knows more about football management than I do :wink:

Any strikers better or equal to DM or DM will already be in a first team squad or unlikely to want to join as rarely used subs. Back-up players at our level need to offer something physical IMO. Anything more and they are already in someone else's first team :wink: The only viable alternative to this is to bring someone unknown in with some talent and hope to coach him through to unexpected levels. I would suggest that this is what MM & TC had in mind with Bajner who may still have time this season to make an impact.

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Re: Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

Post by ashfordblue » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:18 am

:wink: I wouldn't mind betting it could be Doyle just gone back to Wolves, :roll: I would like to have seen Murray on loan from Palace, he's got a good striking rate wherever he goes to on loan, not sure Pards would let him out on loan again just yet.

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Re: Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

Post by herforder » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:37 pm

Dubai Blue wrote:Not sure if this is the time of the season to introduce a new 'general'. I think the team is well bound together. Any newcomer who comes in and is intended to take an immediate place in the team needs to compliment and fit in with a successful unit. Adding a new general would be severely disruptive in my view.

Personally I think any additions need to be back-up options, so as not to disturb what is clearly a well motivated and close knit team unit. Sammon was ok in my view, not spectacular but very capable of putting himself about and drawing in defenders to make space for others. This is probably a key feature for striker subs coming on late in games against tired defences. Personally I would have used him more this way than MM has but I think MM knows more about football management than I do :wink:

Any strikers better or equal to DM or DM will already be in a first team squad or unlikely to want to join as rarely used subs. Back-up players at our level need to offer something physical IMO. Anything more and they are already in someone else's first team :wink: The only viable alternative to this is to bring someone unknown in with some talent and hope to coach him through to unexpected levels. I would suggest that this is what MM & TC had in mind with Bajner who may still have time this season to make an impact.

Not suggesting immediate revolution, thinking more about the next phase of strengthening/improving the squad - part and parcel of the game. That said, don't necessarily believe that adding MF quality will cause massive disruption. Perhaps 'general' was the wrong word in that context; playmaker is probably nearer the mark. MM has tried various combinations, albeit some with less game time than others, but that sort of individual has yet to emerge. However, Mick has stated recently that he's happy with what we have, and that any additions would have to be of better quality and, importantly, be of the right character to fit in with what is a small, tightly-knit squad. But should such an individual become available, am sure that both MM and existing players would go for it if it meant getting us closer to the PL.

Totally agree regarding CS. If he does leave, then finding a suitable 'quality' replacement will be a challenge! But in Mick we trust :D (I wonder if Darren Bent will be happy if he has to fill that role? Perhaps the reported £70K per week will ease the pain)!

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Re: Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

Post by Dubai Blue » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:17 pm

Haha! I think it might. Would certainly do it for me :mrgreen:

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Re: Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

Post by Bluemike » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:46 pm

I think we all get a bit too wrapped up and obsessed with Williams, as a club we have moved on a bit since he came in like a messiah. His second stint here was nothing short of pointless, not his fault to a degree but you could see Two things from his return, firstly we tried to play too much through him and were in danger of becoming predictable and one dimensional, secondly he was trying too hard at times and things werent coming off for him.

I have to say I am not keen to see him return again, I think the emergence of Teddy Bishop and to a lesser extent Kevin Bru has been very good and the long term benefit to us is better than having Williams back again.

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Re: Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

Post by Dubai Blue » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:32 pm

Agreed Bluemike. I'm hoping for further improvement from Ambrose and Anderson. That should cover midfield along with the talent that we already have.

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Post by Charnwood » Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:15 pm

I can't say I'm either surprised or disappointed, although I do think it'd important to have him replaced rather than make do with who we have.

I'd still like to se Chris Wood from Leicester given a chance if City are happy to see him go out on loan, I just think he'd be a good fit.

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Re: Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

Post by The Don » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:06 pm

I'm with Mike. The obsession with Williams is on par with the Dos Santos stuff we had once before. He certainly had an impact whilst he was here, but we've moved on since.

With regards to Sammon, I'm not going to miss him going but once again we look very lightweight up top.

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Re: Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

Post by hallamblue » Thu Jan 15, 2015 8:23 pm

We have no striker back up at present. I doubt Murphy will maintain his electric form either. So who is going to score the goals we will need to push for top two?

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Re: Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

Post by marko69 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:33 pm

Hallam, I predict Mings, Berra and Smith will be the new "DM's". Its all out "set piece" training from now until the end of the season. ITFC to make the EPL due to phenomenal corner kicks and accurate bullet headers from defenders. Its the only way......., DM & DM will both be in A&E by February.

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Re: Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

Post by derick_ipsw » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:15 am

hallamblue wrote:We have no striker back up at present. I doubt Murphy will maintain his electric form either. So who is going to score the goals we will need to push for top two?
Yes we do Balint Bajner!! :lol:

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Re: Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

Post by marko69 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:33 am

Derick...... He is Hungarian. Let's not pin hopes on Hungarian strikers.

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Re: Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

Post by supershred » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:54 am

I think MM has more or less written off Badger. Against Southampton he looked like the sort of striker who does not like those 'rough' situations, he tended to stand back. It was the first time I have seen him play, and only for a short time against a very good side (particularly in defence) but I would not expect him to be here next season.

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Re: Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

Post by Charnwood » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:05 am

hallamblue wrote:We have no striker back up at present. I doubt Murphy will maintain his electric form either. So who is going to score the goals we will need to push for top two?


Mike has already told you on Tuesday;


hallamblue wrote:
I think Parr will play instead of Mings. Since we only have 2 strikers , guess it will be those two playing lol

Bluemike wrote:

But we dont, we have Five strikers.

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Re: Connor Sammon To Huddersfield?

Post by derick_ipsw » Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:21 am

marko69 wrote:Derick...... He is Hungarian. Let's not pin hopes on Hungarian strikers.
I was being a tad sarcastic. :wink:

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