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10 day rest

Post by derick_ipsw » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:00 pm

Town don't play for 10 days after Wednesdays game at Brighton, hopefully this will give the players with niggles time to recover. :wink:

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by marko69 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:11 pm

Gives them a few extra days to go spend their 10K a week wages! :D WOO HOO!

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by herforder » Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:46 pm

marko69 wrote:Gives them a few extra days to go spend their 10K a week wages! :D WOO HOO!
Be something of a bus man's holiday for one Paul Taylor! All that time and all that money (for doing f*ck all for ever!) :wink:

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by hallamblue » Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:37 pm

10 day break a double edged sword in my view. Ive already said to Bluemike. Town are often very slow out of the blocks, even looking like they've never played as a team, following any International break.

I fear the same thong happening after this break, even though physically / mentally the break would be good for our small squad. .

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by Dubai Blue » Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:44 pm

Makes sense Hallam. But speaking as a physio (you are right?) does it help strengthen muscle endurance and protect against injury to have a break like this?

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by ashfordblue » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:29 pm

surely Liz this 10 day rest is the same for every team, I think Mick & Tell will have them fired up on our return, they will still be training every day so fitness shouldn't be a problem

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by Bluemike » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:41 pm

This is break is badly needed and is coming at the best time for once,

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by hallamblue » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:40 pm

Dubai Blue wrote:Makes sense Hallam. But speaking as a physio (you are right?) does it help strengthen muscle endurance and protect against injury to have a break like this?

Yes I am. I wouldnt say it makes the body stronger, but it will allow microscopic trauma to joints, cartilage, muscles a ligaments to "rest" and as the body is in a constant state of repair ( via the inflammatory cascade response), it allows this repair to occur unhindered.

The players most likely to benefit are the very young, ( Bishop, Mings) who are at a critical developmental period in their physiological growth - essentially the NEED rest periods to prevent overuse injuries on ligaments, and joints. The other group, is thenother end ofbthe spectrum, the early to mid 30's, whose bodies take longer to recover from the assault of high end exercise eg Tabb, Hunt, Murphy.


So whilst the break helps the players physiologically, and mentally, their match fitness and mental edge...ie feeling "in the groove, or on their game" always seems to be down when they take to the pitch again. Yes, you're right its the same for everyone. But Town seem particularly poor at returning post break to hit the ground running in that first competitive match, compared to our opponents. I don't know why. But ive yet to see us do well after a 2 wk break. I hope MM can break this.

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by hallamblue » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:42 pm

bluemike wrote:This is break is badly needed and is coming at the best time for once,

I think Murphy particularly is looking jaded. I think he's still carrying an injury from the Saints first match.

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by Charnwood » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:43 pm

When you look at it closely we only actually have 9 days without a game, which is only 2 more than a team which plays Saturday one weekend and Sunday the next.

During some International breaks, teams go almost two weeks without a game and this can sometimes break momentum, but with all our illnesses and nigly injuries this shorter break can do nothing but good and I'm sure McCarthy and the players will most welcome it.

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by hallamblue » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:47 pm

Hope youre right. Our squad is small and we need to keep winning. Simple as that really.

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by Charnwood » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:51 pm

hallamblue wrote:Hope youre right. Our squad is small and we need to keep winning. Simple as that really.
Hey Liz, are you coming up to Rotherham with Bluemike, if so I'll come and find you and buy you a drink.

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by Dubai Blue » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:00 pm

Thanks Hallam (Liz) that's great to have a detailed explanation. If we have a smaller squad than most and our big stars are the younger players then don't we actually get an advantage over most teams by having an extended break?

I would love to see statistics on your theory that we tend to start back slower than other teams - could it be that we are just not watching them so closely, after all on a regular Saturday there are 11 or 12 games in the Champ and for every winner there is also a loser.......

Just sayin' like 8)

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by itfc76trev » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:57 pm

hallamblue wrote:10 day break a double edged sword in my view. Ive already said to Bluemike. Town are often very slow out of the blocks, even looking like they've never played as a team, following any International break.

I fear the same thong happening after this break, even though physically / mentally the break would be good for our small squad. .

maybe its cos they are all wearing thongs :D

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by herforder » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:01 pm

Would normally agree that keeping the momentum going is the preferred option - particularly when winning. But the coming break will probably be welcomed by MM and players alike. Time to recharge physical and mental batteries, get the virus out of the squad, clear up nigglng injuries and integrate new players into the squad. Review what's gone before, prepare for the battles to come.

No doubt MM will give them a few days R&R following Brighton (sorry WAGS!), then get back on the training ground on Monday heading towards the Wigan game. Or, the club could fly the boys out to Spain or Portugal for some winter sunshine!

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by Bluemike » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:49 pm

hallamblue wrote:
bluemike wrote:This is break is badly needed and is coming at the best time for once,

I think Murphy particularly is looking jaded. I think he's still carrying an injury from the Saints first match.
Not sure he is looking jaded, he had a hand in all Three goals at millwall, i do however accept he looks like a rest will do him good.

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by hallamblue » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:30 pm

itfc76trev wrote:
hallamblue wrote:10 day break a double edged sword in my view. Ive already said to Bluemike. Town are often very slow out of the blocks, even looking like they've never played as a team, following any International break.

I fear the same thong happening after this break, even though physically / mentally the break would be good for our small squad. .

maybe its cos they are all wearing thongs :D
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Re: 10 day rest

Post by hallamblue » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:33 pm

Dubai Blue wrote:Thanks Hallam (Liz) that's great to have a detailed explanation. If we have a smaller squad than most and our big stars are the younger players then don't we actually get an advantage over most teams by having an extended break?

I would love to see statistics on your theory that we tend to start back slower than other teams - could it be that we are just not watching them so closely, after all on a regular Saturday there are 11 or 12 games in the Champ and for every winner there is also a loser.......

Just sayin' like 8)

Tell you what DB, im more than happy to have this trend reversed after this break! :wink: if anyone has time to look back on previous games after breaks it would make interesting reading i think.

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by hallamblue » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:35 pm

Charnwood wrote:
hallamblue wrote:Hope youre right. Our squad is small and we need to keep winning. Simple as that really.
Hey Liz, are you coming up to Rotherham with Bluemike, if so I'll come and find you and buy you a drink.

Hiya. Yes there should be four of us. Will be good to meet up and catch up. Think their new grojnd , like most of them is stuck in middle of nowhere though. So meet up somewhere away from ground pehaps?

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by Charnwood » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:23 pm

hallamblue wrote:
Charnwood wrote:
hallamblue wrote:Hope youre right. Our squad is small and we need to keep winning. Simple as that really.
Hey Liz, are you coming up to Rotherham with Bluemike, if so I'll come and find you and buy you a drink.

Hiya. Yes there should be four of us. Will be good to meet up and catch up. Think their new grojnd , like most of them is stuck in middle of nowhere though. So meet up somewhere away from ground pehaps?

I think the ground is pretty close to the exit from the M1. The Bridge PH is meant to be quite good, I'll check it out with a mate of mine who I'm playing golf with tomorrow, he spent four years playing in goal for Rotherham United and should still know the area quite well as he goes back there ocassionally to visit the club.

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by marko69 » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:43 pm

Piece of useless info....... We took our daughter to see The Spice Girls in Sheffield way back in 96 or 97...... But our hotel was in Rotherham. I could see Millmoor from my hotel room window. What a fkn shed it was. Actually , when I think back , Rotherham is a bit of a hole. Well , it was..... Might be different now.

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Post by arana peligrosa » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:06 am

marko69 wrote:Piece of useless info....... We took our daughter to see The Spice Girls in Sheffield way back in 96 or 97...... But our hotel was in Rotherham. I could see Millmoor from my hotel room window. What a fkn shed it was. Actually , when I think back , Rotherham is a bit of a hole. Well , it was..... Might be different now.
Jive Bunny originated from there Mark, it's all you need to know.

I don't know what this 10 day rest entails, appears to be another pointless international exercise, but I'd much rather be keeping busy with domestic action and wanting Town to progress as they should.

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marko69 wrote:Piece of useless info....... We took our daughter to see The Spice Girls in Sheffield way back in 96 or 97...... But our hotel was in Rotherham. I could see Millmoor from my hotel room window. What a fkn shed it was. Actually , when I think back , Rotherham is a bit of a hole. Well , it was..... Might be different now.


I doubt it, when i was a Regional Manager based in a Leeds I had a branch office there and it was always looked upon as being a bit of a sh*t hole and probably always will be.

Unfortunately it's probably one of the most unattractive places in the country although to be fair the local people always seemed to be mostly very nice.

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Re: 10 day rest

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Charnwood wrote:
marko69 wrote:Piece of useless info....... We took our daughter to see The Spice Girls in Sheffield way back in 96 or 97...... But our hotel was in Rotherham. I could see Millmoor from my hotel room window. What a fkn shed it was. Actually , when I think back , Rotherham is a bit of a hole. Well , it was..... Might be different now.


I doubt it, when i was a Regional Manager based in a Leeds I had a branch office there and it was always looked upon as being a bit of a sh*t hole and probably always will be.

Unfortunately it's probably one of the most unattractive places in the country although to be fair the local people always seemed to be mostly very nice.
Apart from the taxi drivers if your a teenage girl!! :shock:

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Post by hallamblue » Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:57 pm

marko69 wrote:Piece of useless info....... We took our daughter to see The Spice Girls in Sheffield way back in 96 or 97...... But our hotel was in Rotherham. I could see Millmoor from my hotel room window. What a fkn shed it was. Actually , when I think back , Rotherham is a bit of a hole. Well , it was..... Might be different now.

Lived in Sheffield for over 3 yrs. Worked in a lot of the hospitals in surrouding area and found it a very hard nosed, gritty but friendly area of the Country.

It is industrial, and therefore suffering from structural unemployment , associated poor health and areas like Rotherham are run down. People who think Ipswich is dump, need to see what other towns are like, and they would view Ipswich through different eyes.

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Compared to my younger days Ipswich is a dump. :wink:

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bluemike wrote:Compared to my younger days Ipswich is a dump. :wink:
You may well be correct Bluemike, but reserve judgement till you've been to Rotherham.

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by Charnwood » Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:36 pm

derick_ipsw wrote:
Charnwood wrote:
marko69 wrote:Piece of useless info....... We took our daughter to see The Spice Girls in Sheffield way back in 96 or 97...... But our hotel was in Rotherham. I could see Millmoor from my hotel room window. What a fkn shed it was. Actually , when I think back , Rotherham is a bit of a hole. Well , it was..... Might be different now.


I doubt it, when i was a Regional Manager based in a Leeds I had a branch office there and it was always looked upon as being a bit of a sh*t hole and probably always will be.

Unfortunately it's probably one of the most unattractive places in the country although to be fair the local people always seemed to be mostly very nice.
Apart from the taxi drivers if your a teenage girl!! :shock:

There weren't many Asian's of Pakistani origin in Rotherham in my day. The nice people I was referring to we're genuine South Yorkshire folk with a background of either working down pit or from the steel industry.

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by Bluemike » Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:39 pm

Charnwood wrote:
bluemike wrote:Compared to my younger days Ipswich is a dump. :wink:
You may well be correct Bluemike, but reserve judgement till you've been to Rotherham.
Been through it, another dump. :)

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Re: 10 day rest

Post by hallamblue » Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:52 am

Ha ha... Rotherham is a bit of a dump and most people do just drive through it !!

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