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Post by J4ck22 » Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:20 pm

Awful, awful first half. Two poor goals to concede and we had nothing going, Brighton pressed the hell out of us and we couldn't pass it out of our backline, they had us in their pocket. Second half was okay, really good 15 minute spell where we got the two goals but after that it just fell apart again, the third Brighton goal killed all momentum and we didn't recover. I don't think Douglas and Skuse is a great centre combo, but unfortunately it's all we've got due to injuries. Berra was missed as we were getting done by long balls time and time again. Unfortunate that Emmanuel just couldn't cope with Lua-Lua, but he had to go off at half time IMO. Sears was fantastic (as usual), he nearly rivals McGoldrick (also had a great game) for ability with the ball at his feet and he deserved that goal. Fraser and Pitman did pretty well too, but it was really the defending and central midfield that let us down today.

About Gerken, now he's not the best keeper by any stretch, but jesus christ it doesn't help when fans are instantly on his back for any/everything, including the 2nd goal which IMO is not really his fault at all. It's just counter productive and pretty pathetic really.

Brighton are a good side though, they deserved the win but we were bound to lose eventually and bring us down to earth a bit. At least we have an international break to look forward to! :twisted:

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Post by itfc76trev » Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:28 pm

J4ck22 wrote:Awful, awful first half. Two poor goals to concede and we had nothing going, Brighton pressed the hell out of us and we couldn't pass it out of our backline, they had us in their pocket. Second half was okay, really good 15 minute spell where we got the two goals but after that it just fell apart again, the third Brighton goal killed all momentum and we didn't recover. I don't think Douglas and Skuse is a great centre combo, but unfortunately it's all we've got due to injuries. Berra was missed as we were getting done by long balls time and time again. Unfortunate that Emmanuel just couldn't cope with Lua-Lua, but he had to go off at half time IMO. Sears was fantastic (as usual), he nearly rivals McGoldrick (also had a great game) for ability with the ball at his feet and he deserved that goal. Fraser and Pitman did pretty well too, but it was really the defending and central midfield that let us down today.

About Gerken, now he's not the best keeper by any stretch, but jesus christ it doesn't help when fans are instantly on his back for any/everything, including the 2nd goal which IMO is not really his fault at all. It's just counter productive and pretty pathetic really.

Brighton are a good side though, they deserved the win but we were bound to lose eventually and bring us down to earth a bit. At least we have an international break to look forward to! :twisted:

Gerkin need to add a variation to his goal kicks every one today hit the left wing and we didn't win any of them brighton won them all in the air

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Post by BLUEBLOOD » Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:36 am

itfc76trev wrote:
J4ck22 wrote:Awful, awful first half. Two poor goals to concede and we had nothing going, Brighton pressed the hell out of us and we couldn't pass it out of our backline, they had us in their pocket. Second half was okay, really good 15 minute spell where we got the two goals but after that it just fell apart again, the third Brighton goal killed all momentum and we didn't recover. I don't think Douglas and Skuse is a great centre combo, but unfortunately it's all we've got due to injuries. Berra was missed as we were getting done by long balls time and time again. Unfortunate that Emmanuel just couldn't cope with Lua-Lua, but he had to go off at half time IMO. Sears was fantastic (as usual), he nearly rivals McGoldrick (also had a great game) for ability with the ball at his feet and he deserved that goal. Fraser and Pitman did pretty well too, but it was really the defending and central midfield that let us down today.

About Gerken, now he's not the best keeper by any stretch, but jesus christ it doesn't help when fans are instantly on his back for any/everything, including the 2nd goal which IMO is not really his fault at all. It's just counter productive and pretty pathetic really.

Brighton are a good side though, they deserved the win but we were bound to lose eventually and bring us down to earth a bit. At least we have an international break to look forward to! :twisted:

Gerkin need to add a variation to his goal kicks every one today hit the left wing and we didn't win any of them brighton won them all in the air
The only other way would have been a short goal kick putting us under instant pressure because they closed us down straight away.
It would not mattered if he kicked it left right or centre as you say they won everything in the air.

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Post by derick_ipsw » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:17 am

What did we learn from yesterdays defeat?

Gerkin.......Does not come for enough crosses and his distribution was poor.
Emmanuel..... The 17yr old is not ready yet.
Douglas and Skuse....... They have to protect the back four better, they also have to work out if 1 goes forward the other sits.
Berra...... Is going to be missed
MM.... Has got to play Mcgoldrick, he is a very good "Footballer" and can make Town Tick.

But after saying all that, I would of took our league position after 5 games at the start of the season. And we were beaten buy the top team. :wink:

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Post by tommyboy » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:39 am

I thought Knudsen had a pretty poor game, was left exposed and lacking in pace, Rosenoir skinned him at will.
We never really looked comfortable on the ball, they closed us down well and gave Douglas and Skuse no time on the ball. We were poor in the air all game and won little second ball, just hoofing it forward played to Brightons strengths all game.
Positives were Frasers work rate, Sears was his usual solid performing self and McGoldrick still looks a class above everyone else on the pitch. We also had flashes from the young guys down the right hand side for the first half.
I thought the score line flattered us but one poor game does not undo all the hard work shown so far this season.
As an aside any idea why Knudsens shirt was missing some of its logo on the front?

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Post by hallamblue » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:32 am

derick_ipsw wrote:What did we learn from yesterdays defeat?

Gerkin.......Does not come for enough crosses and his distribution was poor.
Emmanuel..... The 17yr old is not ready yet.
Douglas and Skuse....... They have to protect the back four better, they also have to work out if 1 goes forward the other sits.
Berra...... Is going to be missed
MM.... Has got to play Mcgoldrick, he is a very good "Footballer" and can make Town Tick.

But after saying all that, I would of took our league position after 5 games at the start of the season. And we were beaten buy the top team. :wink:

Spot on Del boy ( no offence meant :wink: ).... I agree with all of that, but as Bluemike said Town will lose some games. As long as we learn from it. We certainly have the best squad in years.

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Post by Charnwood » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:47 am

hallamblue wrote:
derick_ipsw wrote:What did we learn from yesterdays defeat?

Gerkin.......Does not come for enough crosses and his distribution was poor.
Emmanuel..... The 17yr old is not ready yet.
Douglas and Skuse....... They have to protect the back four better, they also have to work out if 1 goes forward the other sits.
Berra...... Is going to be missed
MM.... Has got to play Mcgoldrick, he is a very good "Footballer" and can make Town Tick.

But after saying all that, I would of took our league position after 5 games at the start of the season. And we were beaten buy the top team. :wink:

Spot on Del boy ( no offence meant :wink: ).... I agree with all of that, but as Bluemike said Town will lose some games. As long as we learn from it. We certainly have the best squad in years.

....and furthermore, for once the International Break comes at a good time for us, albeit it gets followed by three games in eight days all with Berra missing I presume.

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Post by Shed on tour » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:56 am

derick_ipsw wrote:What did we learn from yesterdays defeat?

Gerkin.......Does not come for enough crosses and his distribution was poor.
Emmanuel..... The 17yr old is not ready yet.
Douglas and Skuse....... They have to protect the back four better, they also have to work out if 1 goes forward the other sits.
Berra...... Is going to be missed
MM.... Has got to play Mcgoldrick, he is a very good "Footballer" and can make Town Tick.

But after saying all that, I would of took our league position after 5 games at the start of the season. And we were beaten buy the top team. :wink:
We have to come out and start playing from the first whistle not after 45 minutes (we got away with it last week at Preston but not yesterday).
Yet again we struggle against teams that close us down quickly.
Douglas and Skuse are not a good pairing (ok it is being forced upon us at the moment with the injuries to Bru and Bishop).
We will score plenty this season but probably will concede quite a few as well.
Hopefully Sears will continue his form.
Yet again this league is going to be as difficult as ever to get out of and it will probably go right down to the wire again.

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Post by Charnwood » Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:18 am

Shed on tour wrote:
derick_ipsw wrote:What did we learn from yesterdays defeat?

Gerkin.......Does not come for enough crosses and his distribution was poor.
Emmanuel..... The 17yr old is not ready yet.
Douglas and Skuse....... They have to protect the back four better, they also have to work out if 1 goes forward the other sits.
Berra...... Is going to be missed
MM.... Has got to play Mcgoldrick, he is a very good "Footballer" and can make Town Tick.

But after saying all that, I would of took our league position after 5 games at the start of the season. And we were beaten buy the top team. :wink:
We have to come out and start playing from the first whistle not after 45 minutes (we got away with it last week at Preston but not yesterday).
Yet again we struggle against teams that close us down quickly.
Douglas and Skuse are not a good pairing (ok it is being forced upon us at the moment with the injuries to Bru and Bishop).
We will score plenty this season but probably will concede quite a few as well.
Hopefully Sears will continue his form.
Yet again this league is going to be as difficult as ever to get out of and it will probably go right down to the wire again.


Nine away wins in yesterday's eleven Championship games says it all. Every team can pretty much beat everyone else yet again this season, which makes this one of the most competitive leagues in Europe.

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Post by Magicmark » Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:32 am

With Bera & parr missing we were always going to struggle in defence . Oh well We shouldn't expect to win every game & this is the best start we've had in years :D

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Post by Bluemike » Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:51 pm

I personally don't think there is too much wrong with the Douglas/Skuse pairing in midfield, admittedly yesterday it wasn't great because Skuse had a rare poor game but by and large it has worked quite well so far. Obviously having Bish & Bru back will be better as we can switch things around a bit.

I really dont think there is any great in quiry needed as to why we got beat, as Shed has rightly said, we were quite simply beaten by the better team on the day, I will still bet anyone we will finish ahead of Brighton this season, no problem at all.

I think it was Derick who mentioned we really are missing Murphy and again that is spot on, we have no real physical presence up front and we won little in the air from our set pieces, we nedd the big man back ASAP especially as Didsy now has a Groin injury too.

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Post by marko69 » Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:20 pm

bluemike wrote:especially as Didsy now has a Groin injury too.
FFS! Someone at ITFC employ a "cotton wool wrapper uper-er"......., and make "Didsy" the first appointment. Jaysus H that laddie is fragile.

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Post by Bluemike » Sun Aug 30, 2015 2:00 pm

marko69 wrote:
bluemike wrote:especially as Didsy now has a Groin injury too.
FFS! Someone at ITFC employ a "cotton wool wrapper uper-er"......., and make "Didsy" the first appointment. Jaysus H that laddie is fragile.
Not sure how serious it is but he has pulled out of The Rep of Ireland squad.

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Post by hallamblue » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:43 pm

Only last 5 games this season then. Jeeeze, what a sick note! :roll:

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Post by arana peligrosa » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:45 pm

Or in other words McGoldrick isn't interested of being part of a largely immaterial international game coming up ? What odds can you get on the player being as good as new by time of next domestic fixture..

One last word on yesterdays encounter and while the omission of a number of key players, still had a team out there that could cause the opposition problems. Brighton were not in a false position to begin with and obviously have some players of merit and as before, in the end just about deserved to take maximum points from the game. It's unfortuntate, but we move on and prepare for the next fixture and take it from there.

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Post by Bluemike » Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:54 pm

Brighton played very well but I actually think they are in a bit of a false position. Time will tell.

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Post by arana peligrosa » Sun Aug 30, 2015 5:19 pm

Yes but that was said about Bournemouth last season and look where it turned out.

See where you're at though. Brighton haven't been a part of the top level since circa 1983 and looking ahead now at the possibility of them being a first division team once again could appear too bizarre for some. Only going to add, they've obviously done well thus far, came to the first placed team yesterday and scored three on route to a victory, so they're obviously putting something together there. Can they hold out for another eight / nine months and retain their position ? See no reason to doubt them. Early season pacesetters usually keep in the mix until the very end, so if they cause a shock like Bournemouth this year and feature in the EPL, then (not only will there be another South Coast team involved) they will probably have earned it.

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Post by Tangfastic » Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:20 pm

saint jude wrote:Yes but that was said about Bournemouth last season and look where it turned out.

See where you're at though. Brighton haven't been a part of the top level since circa 1983 and looking ahead now at the possibility of them being a first division team once again could appear too bizarre for some. Only going to add, they've obviously done well thus far, came to the first placed team yesterday and scored three on route to a victory, so they're obviously putting something together there. Can they hold out for another eight / nine months and retain their position ? See no reason to doubt them. Early season pacesetters usually keep in the mix until the very end, so if they cause a shock like Bournemouth this year and feature in the EPL, then (not only will there be another South Coast team involved) they will probably have earned it.
Brighton deserve to be where they are.... buts it's only 5 games. Tough old league and there's 41 games left, including a bunch of cold, wet Tuesday night away games before the winning line in May.
Brighton taught us a lesson, but we've proven to be a tough, resilient side. Played crap and came back from 2 down....
Could be a good reality check.... we were all getting a little too tipsy from the results, but we're still a side who struggle to keep possession and have lack of pace in defence.... but I would back this side to come back. The Brentford game hurt more for me because it was 2 easy points lost at the end, whereas Brighton hit us on top form and deserved all 3 points.

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Post by Bluemike » Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:22 pm

tangfastic wrote:
saint jude wrote:Yes but that was said about Bournemouth last season and look where it turned out.

See where you're at though. Brighton haven't been a part of the top level since circa 1983 and looking ahead now at the possibility of them being a first division team once again could appear too bizarre for some. Only going to add, they've obviously done well thus far, came to the first placed team yesterday and scored three on route to a victory, so they're obviously putting something together there. Can they hold out for another eight / nine months and retain their position ? See no reason to doubt them. Early season pacesetters usually keep in the mix until the very end, so if they cause a shock like Bournemouth this year and feature in the EPL, then (not only will there be another South Coast team involved) they will probably have earned it.
Brighton deserve to be where they are.... buts it's only 5 games. Tough old league and there's 41 games left, including a bunch of cold, wet Tuesday night away games before the winning line in May.
Brighton taught us a lesson, but we've proven to be a tough, resilient side. Played crap and came back from 2 down....
Could be a good reality check.... we were all getting a little too tipsy from the results, but we're still a side who struggle to keep possession and have lack of pace in defence.... but I would back this side to come back. The Brentford game hurt more for me because it was 2 easy points lost at the end, whereas Brighton hit us on top form and deserved all 3 points.
Spot on.

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The highlights for those that may have missed them.

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bluemike wrote:I personally don't think there is too much wrong with the Douglas/Skuse pairing in midfield, admittedly yesterday it wasn't great because Skuse had a rare poor game but by and large it has worked quite well so far. Obviously having Bish & Bru back will be better as we can switch things around a bit.

I really dont think there is any great in quiry needed as to why we got beat, as Shed has rightly said, we were quite simply beaten by the better team on the day, I will still bet anyone we will finish ahead of Brighton this season, no problem at all.

I think it was Derick who mentioned we really are missing Murphy and again that is spot on, we have no real physical presence up front and we won little in the air from our set pieces, we nedd the big man back ASAP especially as Didsy now has a Groin injury too.
Agreed - Pitman won one ball in the air in the first half. And they were far from being all set pieces.
So what mystifies me is this - given the fact that we have 2 good wide-men, why the fcuk do we persist in hoofing the ball up front in the air? Absolute madness.

I was furious after the Brentford result - not so on Saturday because in my opinion we were comprehensively outplayed (at least in the first half) by a better team who seemed to want it more than we did. We might think we have a wonderful squad (and indeed it's a big improvement on last season), but managers of other teams have been far from idle and I think we're going to find it more of a struggle this season than last. What disappoints me most is to see that the defensive frailties we have had for some seasons now are yet to be addressed - even with changes in personnel we are still leaking goals far too easily. It's funny, we lambast Tommy Smith and have discussions about whether to play him or Berra - well, Chambers has been dire this season; maybe the common denominator in our poor defence is him, maybe he needs a rest.

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Post by Bluemike » Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:33 pm

Did you think we hoofed it a lot on saturday ? I must confess it didn't notice it as being excessive but I may be wrong. To be honest I don't see why there always has to be a major inquest when we lose and I don't mean that in a funny way at all, sometimes it should be a case of hands up, the opposition were simply better than us and this is what I feel about saturdays game. For me Brighton played very well while we didn't, we had too many individuals have off days at the same time, I take some comfort from the fact that Brighton appear to have played at the top of their game while we were some way short of ours and still it ended up being very very close, although on chances we were outplayed.

I actually do think we have a very good squad and will be right in the mix for most of the season, I see us as serious dark horses for the top Two, we have to realise we have a shed load of injuries at the start of the season but still have had a very good month, add to that the two latest signings and things are looking very rosy on the squad front, miles better than last season.

As for the Chambers thing, yes he has had a couple of tough games and has not been at his best yet, but for me he should and almost definitely is one of the first names on the teamsheet, I really dont think we can look at everyone except Tommy Smith as being the cause of any defensive frailties although having said that he has done pretty well this season.

I keep saying to people, we lost a game, so what ?? Do the Town fans think we are going to go 46 unbeaten ? If they want and expect that they need to go support Man City, There is no major issue with the defeat to Brighton, currently they are the best team in the division, it won't last, I guarantee it. Ten points from Five games and Third in the table is more than a satisfactory start, with Bru, Bishop, Murphy and Parr soon to return I think we will be well set to kick on and be up there where we all want to be.

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Post by J4ck22 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:36 pm

bluemike wrote:Did you think we hoofed it a lot on saturday ? I must confess it didn't notice it as being excessive but I may be wrong. To be honest I don't see why there always has to be a major inquest when we lose and I don't mean that in a funny way at all, sometimes it should be a case of hands up, the opposition were simply better than us and this is what I feel about saturdays game. For me Brighton played very well while we didn't, we had too many individuals have off days at the same time, I take some comfort from the fact that Brighton appear to have played at the top of their game while we were some way short of ours and still it ended up being very very close, although on chances we were outplayed.

I actually do think we have a very good squad and will be right in the mix for most of the season, I see us as serious dark horses for the top Two, we have to realise we have a shed load of injuries at the start of the season but still have had a very good month, add to that the two latest signings and things are looking very rosy on the squad front, miles better than last season.

As for the Chambers thing, yes he has had a couple of tough games and has not been at his best yet, but for me he should and almost definitely is one of the first names on the teamsheet, I really dont think we can look at everyone except Tommy Smith as being the cause of any defensive frailties although having said that he has done pretty well this season.

I keep saying to people, we lost a game, so what ?? Do the Town fans think we are going to go 46 unbeaten ? If they want and expect that they need to go support Man City, There is no major issue with the defeat to Brighton, currently they are the best team in the division, it won't last, I guarantee it. Ten points from Five games and Third in the table is more than a satisfactory start, with Bru, Bishop, Murphy and Parr soon to return I think we will be well set to kick on and be up there where we all want to be.
We did hoof a bit, but I felt that it was our second option after our defense struggled to pass it out of the back due to Brighton's intense pressure. Not a big deal at all though, Brighton outplayed us.

I'm looking forward to having the full team available, without those injuries we'd be very hard to beat.

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Post by The Odious Mr Rossi » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:38 pm

bluemike wrote:Did you think we hoofed it a lot on saturday ? I must confess it didn't notice it as being excessive but I may be wrong. To be honest I don't see why there always has to be a major inquest when we lose and I don't mean that in a funny way at all, sometimes it should be a case of hands up, the opposition were simply better than us and this is what I feel about saturdays game. For me Brighton played very well while we didn't, we had too many individuals have off days at the same time, I take some comfort from the fact that Brighton appear to have played at the top of their game while we were some way short of ours and still it ended up being very very close, although on chances we were outplayed.

I actually do think we have a very good squad and will be right in the mix for most of the season, I see us as serious dark horses for the top Two, we have to realise we have a shed load of injuries at the start of the season but still have had a very good month, add to that the two latest signings and things are looking very rosy on the squad front, miles better than last season.

As for the Chambers thing, yes he has had a couple of tough games and has not been at his best yet, but for me he should and almost definitely is one of the first names on the teamsheet, I really dont think we can look at everyone except Tommy Smith as being the cause of any defensive frailties although having said that he has done pretty well this season.

I keep saying to people, we lost a game, so what ?? Do the Town fans think we are going to go 46 unbeaten ? If they want and expect that they need to go support Man City, There is no major issue with the defeat to Brighton, currently they are the best team in the division, it won't last, I guarantee it. Ten points from Five games and Third in the table is more than a satisfactory start, with Bru, Bishop, Murphy and Parr soon to return I think we will be well set to kick on and be up there where we all want to be.
Well I thought we hoofed it a lot, yes. Maybe you didn't notice it so much because that seems to be the style we've played for the past few seasons.
But most times the ball was moved (or attempted to be moved) out from defence it invariably seemed to be in the air, and to me that's not a good option when you've only got the likes of Pitman as a target.

But I'd like to know what you think is wrong with the defence if none of the current back 4 are to blame, because to me shipping the amount of goals we have shipped over the past few seasons and are continuing to do this season indicates a very big problem.

Personally I do not expect to win every game, far from it. But I do expect long-standing deficiencies to be addressed.

And we are hardly in a unique position in the league of having an injury list either. I'm merely trying to be realistic - sure we've improved our squad, but so have many of the other clubs. We're even banging on about some recent acquisitions that we've never even seen play yet, so you'll forgive me if I treat claims that we're going to be top 2 with a pinch of salt. I think we'll be fortunate to finish as high as last season, but that's just my opinion, there are a lot of games still to play, and time will tell ;)

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Post by marko69 » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:54 pm

From what I've read, on here, (J4CK22) and on other sites........, my tuppence ha'penny worth is that, if the occasional to moderate hoofing DIDNT happen, then it would've been 6-2 Brighton.

I blame Tommy.

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marko69 wrote:From what I've read, on here, (J4CK22) and on other sites........, my tuppence ha'penny worth is that, if the occasional to moderate hoofing DIDNT happen, then it would've been 6-2 Brighton.

I blame Tommy.
Yeah probably, we had no choice most of the time as our backline would have lost it straight away which they nearly did on several occasions.

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Post by Bluemike » Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:42 pm

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bluemike wrote:Did you think we hoofed it a lot on saturday ? I must confess it didn't notice it as being excessive but I may be wrong. To be honest I don't see why there always has to be a major inquest when we lose and I don't mean that in a funny way at all, sometimes it should be a case of hands up, the opposition were simply better than us and this is what I feel about saturdays game. For me Brighton played very well while we didn't, we had too many individuals have off days at the same time, I take some comfort from the fact that Brighton appear to have played at the top of their game while we were some way short of ours and still it ended up being very very close, although on chances we were outplayed.

I actually do think we have a very good squad and will be right in the mix for most of the season, I see us as serious dark horses for the top Two, we have to realise we have a shed load of injuries at the start of the season but still have had a very good month, add to that the two latest signings and things are looking very rosy on the squad front, miles better than last season.

As for the Chambers thing, yes he has had a couple of tough games and has not been at his best yet, but for me he should and almost definitely is one of the first names on the teamsheet, I really dont think we can look at everyone except Tommy Smith as being the cause of any defensive frailties although having said that he has done pretty well this season.

I keep saying to people, we lost a game, so what ?? Do the Town fans think we are going to go 46 unbeaten ? If they want and expect that they need to go support Man City, There is no major issue with the defeat to Brighton, currently they are the best team in the division, it won't last, I guarantee it. Ten points from Five games and Third in the table is more than a satisfactory start, with Bru, Bishop, Murphy and Parr soon to return I think we will be well set to kick on and be up there where we all want to be.
Well I thought we hoofed it a lot, yes. Maybe you didn't notice it so much because that seems to be the style we've played for the past few seasons.
But most times the ball was moved (or attempted to be moved) out from defence it invariably seemed to be in the air, and to me that's not a good option when you've only got the likes of Pitman as a target.

But I'd like to know what you think is wrong with the defence if none of the current back 4 are to blame, because to me shipping the amount of goals we have shipped over the past few seasons and are continuing to do this season indicates a very big problem.

Personally I do not expect to win every game, far from it. But I do expect long-standing deficiencies to be addressed.

And we are hardly in a unique position in the league of having an injury list either. I'm merely trying to be realistic - sure we've improved our squad, but so have many of the other clubs. We're even banging on about some recent acquisitions that we've never even seen play yet, so you'll forgive me if I treat claims that we're going to be top 2 with a pinch of salt. I think we'll be fortunate to finish as high as last season, but that's just my opinion, there are a lot of games still to play, and time will tell ;)
What I think is wrong with the defence is that for the last two games our best defender has been missing, I also think we played a young 17 year old kid at RB against the current best player in the Championship (Lua Lua), now Emmanuel was caught out, no question about that but it was his second game and this will happen to one so young, no major disaster there, for me the second goal against Brighton was a fluke, nothing more than that, I dont blame anyone to be honest, the third, in my opinion should have been cut out by the new polish guy who had only met his teammates hours before and in reality should not have been expected to play, it may have been a error on MM's part but nothing more.

I also dont get the feel that we are shipping goals, 2 at Brentford in the space of a minute, thanks to Smith and Chambo, aside from that we defended superbly well, one each against Wednesday & Preston and a clean sheet against Burnley, so it's hardly shipping loads, we must also take into account all the facts, Berra missing, a young kid being blooded, Knudsen totally new to the team and settling in, I keep saying it but I see no issue at all just yet, we havent even mentioned Parr being unavailable all season. For all these issues I believe we have done superbly well to be 3rd at this point.

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Post by barmy billy » Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:06 pm

Mike.

It has been said for a long time that Chambers is not best suited as a right back and now it has been said that he is not a lot better at CB.

On the basis that all our defenders are fully fit, what would be your first choice back four?

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Post by Bluemike » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:00 pm

barmy billy wrote:Mike.

It has been said for a long time that Chambers is not best suited as a right back and now it has been said that he is not a lot better at CB.

On the basis that all our defenders are fully fit, what would be your first choice back four?
To be honest Billy it is hard to say until we know the level of Malarczyk, but if pushed at the moment mine would be :-

Chambers Smith Berra Knudsen

If Malarczyk proves himself in the next month or so I would have him challenging for Smith's place, for me Chambers is an absolute must for the team, like Murphy he offers so much more than just defending, which i admit is pretty key to his inclusion, but his leadership on the field is second to none, by far and away our best captain for years.

To be honest Billy there is nothing for anyone to be concerned about at all right now, we have had a very good start and are well placed, and all this with injuries, new players settling in and lets not forget a tricky set of opening fixtures.

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Post by marko69 » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:12 pm

I haven't seen ITFC this season as yet. It's quite concerning that Chambers seems to be getting bad press. (Opinion alert) From what I saw of the club last season, I thought Chambers was the most consistently solid. Very reliable. It's quite unsettling to read negativity towards him. But as I've said, not seen any play this season so can only trust what people say. Obviously hoping all new defensive signings are good ones, but (for me) they'd need to be VERY good to oust Chambers from the starting 11.

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