Mick's dire tactics aside

[marko69]

If MM emptied, and Holloway arrives, that's when I'll be relying 100% on the forum for analysis. Can't listen to Holloway. Grade A ersehole.

[barmy billy]

It's not up to fans to name a replacement. We are not qualified to make those decisions. We are what we are: simply the poors sods who pay a lt of money to be entertained: or suffer, whichever you prefer.

[marko69]

That's obvious though. It's a good way to hear people's management skills. You've already offered that MM needs to go, so if you were charge, who are you replacing him with?

[marko69]

Apologies but I'm experimenting a tad. People wanting Alan Stubbs out. But they have no clue who the replacement could potentially be. I remind people of Terry Butcher and instantly people seem OK with Stubbs. Would that work at ITFC, reminding people of Roy Bellend Keane or Paul Shagger Jewell?

[number 9]

It's a sad day in football, if ITFC can't attract any manager better than MM. I actually think now MM is hurting the club with his style of football. I really don't wanna start that argument again though. We are what we are.
(Bloody Marko stoking the fire haha)

[arana peligrosa]

It's a sad day in football, if ITFC can't attract any manager better than MM. I actually think now MM is hurting the club with his style of football. I really don't wanna start that argument again though. We are what we are.
(Bloody Marko stoking the fire haha)

We know damn well that McCarthy is not solely to blame. Evans together is causing issues and on occasion, you feel like it's Laurel and Hardy in charge of club affairs regards those two such is their blundering.

[marko69]

No one is "damn" asking what the reasons are and whether MM is to blame. YOU are in danger of "damn" starting other "damn" Mevans debate. "Damn" ersehole.

Asking who is the replacement, IF YOU, yes DAMN YOU, (the fan) is sacking MM.

[number 9]

No one is "damn" asking what the reasons are and whether MM is to blame. YOU are in danger of "damn" starting other "damn" Mevans debate. "Damn" ersehole.

Asking who is the replacement, IF YOU, yes DAMN YOU, (the fan) is sacking MM.

???... is he having a go at me??? Sorry if I've upset you, Jude.

[Bluemike]

The fact of the matter is marko and whether people like it or not, MM is a bloody good manager aty what he does, pretty no, effective yes as his promotions prove. I would dare to suggest that there is NOBODY out there that is better than MM and who could as good a job with ZERO money, nobody, play off last season and in the mix for the large part again this season, the guy is working with not one but both bloody hands behind his back.

It is all well and good wishing him gone and yes as Billy say's it is not the fans job to find a replacement but sometimes you can change for the sake of changing. Fair enough MM messed up big time in the game against Rotherham and deserved some stick, even I was pissed off with him and I am behind the guy, but you know what really gets my blood boiling is how at the first sign of a sticky spell since he arived fans turn on him and suddenly EVERYTHING is wrong when it isn't !!

I would not try to defend the style of football of late, only an idiot would, however we then start reading that nearly all the players are sh*te, that the owner has no interest in the club anymore, that the Academy is failing and producing nothing, that this campaign has been one of failure when it isn't even over yet, the list goes on and on. People say the yongsters get no chance under Mm, again that is crap, Bishop was brought through last season and would have been a big part of it this season, Clarke, Emmanuel, Kenlock and Yorwerth have all seen some first team action either at the end of last season or the beginning of this, Mick has done exactly the right hing in getting them out on loan to develop their game and gain experience, they were NOT ready for a play off assault. He has also taken Benyu, Dozzell, Robinson and Blanchfield to away games with the team to gain yet more match day experience, quite what else he is supposed to do god only knows !

[marko69]

the Academy is failing and producing nothing......................, the yongsters get no chance under Mm, again that is crap

Certainly was taken aback a little when reading that pish on another thread the other day. As you say, crap.

[marko69]

No one is "damn" asking what the reasons are and whether MM is to blame. YOU are in danger of "damn" starting other "damn" Mevans debate. "Damn" ersehole.

Asking who is the replacement, IF YOU, yes DAMN YOU, (the fan) is sacking MM.

???... is he having a go at me??? Sorry if I've upset you, Jude.

The question was, "Who to replace MM with?" ......, Judy said, "MM not blame"......., wasn't about who is to blame. There are enough threads about that. So no, he wasn't having a go at you. Was me attempting to get Judy to answer a question. But that's impossible as I'm on ignore. Which F**king damn suits me.

[number 9]

Marcus Rashford scored twice on his debut. Yeah I know we're not ManU. Sure Bishop came through...but he's been injured all season. Not MM's fault, but shouldn't there be another academy player to come in? MM might be the best answer to ME's lack of spending...but I just can't accept the sh*t football. I don't care about making the play offs or surviving by playing crap football. I don't understand why hoof ball is Mick's only option. As some have said, we have played some decent football a few games this season...why not more? Mick deserves credit for his successes, but the game has changed. How different would we play if MM ever does get financial help? I'm really not sure.

[marko69]

Well, its the tactics thread......, maybe things should be getting discussed in depth as to where and when, and why things on the field went a bit wrong, the obvious starting point being Ryan Fraser being long term injured. Reading reports, during his time on the field, EVERYTHING went through him. THAT, to me, seems to be the crucial area that has never been sorted since he went off.

[Bluemike]

Marcus Rashford scored twice on his debut. Yeah I know we're not ManU. Sure Bishop came through...but he's been injured all season. Not MM's fault, but shouldn't there be another academy player to come in? MM might be the best answer to ME's lack of spending...but I just can't accept the sh*t football. I don't care about making the play offs or surviving by playing crap football. I don't understand why hoof ball is Mick's only option. As some have said, we have played some decent football a few games this season...why not more? Mick deserves credit for his successes, but the game has changed. How different would we play if MM ever does get financial help? I'm really not sure.

MM himself said Kundai Benyu was close to breaking into the first team squad, he then got injured and has been out until recently for Four months.

[barmy billy]

That's obvious though. It's a good way to hear people's management skills. You've already offered that MM needs to go, so if you were charge, who are you replacing him with?

It's not as simple as that, is it Marko, as you know full well. Once the post of manager is made available, who knows who may apply for it. Alternatively, the club could go out and head hunt someone.

I am happy to admit that I have always thought highly of David Moyes. Apart from the Man U fiasco (which was always going to happen to Ferguson's successor) he has a pretty impressive CV.

[hallamblue]

Dont get me started on this. Trust me the response won't be good.

LMAO!! Someone get her started, PLEASE!

And you can shut yer beak!

[hallamblue]

Why isnt it black humour? Micks tactics have been going on like this for the whole season. We have heen absolutely shocking in almost all the games Ive seen , and like many other fans, have had enough of it tbh. What else can people do , but make a joke of things. It isnt actually about making the bloody play offs really, its far deeper than that. Its about the quality of footbal being dished up EVERY bloody game. Dont get me started on this. Trust me the response won't be good.

LOL, is this the same Hallam that has just renewed for Three years, you are a glutton for punishment then.

Ive bought my ST in support of my Club, this doesnt mean I like or agree with the way the manager is dealing with things right now......... Anyway, you know your best footie buddy is a muppet, so shut up!

[hallamblue]

I dont want Mick McCarthy to go. He's a bloody good manager and as honest as any ive seen tbh. I like his down to earth attitude. But what i don't like is his boring brand of football, and I just WISH he would change it , or mix it up a bit, thats all.

As I've said many times before, when he took Wolves up, they weren't ( from memory ) a hoofball outfit. They used pacy wingers and tore us to shreds at PR the year they went up. We have these types of players at Town now, so why thd hell doesnt he play a better style?

[barmy billy]

I dont want Mick McCarthy to go. He's a bloody good manager and as honest as any ive seen tbh. I like his down to earth attitude. But what i don't like is his boring brand of football, and I just WISH he would change it , or mix it up a bit, thats all.

As I've said many times before, when he took Wolves up, they weren't ( from memory ) a hoofball outfit. They used pacy wingers and tore us to shreds at PR the year they went up. We have these types of players at Town now, so why thd hell doesnt he play a better style?

Because too old, stubborn and set in his ways.

[Bluemike]

I honestly hope, no expect that the brand of football will see an improvement over the reamining 8 games, if MM plays Feeney & Pringle, and god knows he should the football will be better, it has to be.

[hallamblue]

That's obvious though. It's a good way to hear people's management skills. You've already offered that MM needs to go, so if you were charge, who are you replacing him with?

It's not as simple as that, is it Marko, as you know full well. Once the post of manager is made available, who knows who may apply for it. Alternatively, the club could go out and head hunt someone.

I am happy to admit that I have always thought highly of David Moyes. Apart from the Man U fiasco (which was always going to happen to Ferguson's successor) he has a pretty impressive CV.

I honestly dont think Moyes would take on a Championship Club BB. If we did lose MM, Id like us to try for Lambert. He's got teams promoted on a shoestring, and when in charge of scum at least played attacking football.

Other than that, I think Im struggling to think of another manager in this division who is better than McCarthy, (his brand of football aside).

[barmy billy]

That's obvious though. It's a good way to hear people's management skills. You've already offered that MM needs to go, so if you were charge, who are you replacing him with?

It's not as simple as that, is it Marko, as you know full well. Once the post of manager is made available, who knows who may apply for it. Alternatively, the club could go out and head hunt someone.

I am happy to admit that I have always thought highly of David Moyes. Apart from the Man U fiasco (which was always going to happen to Ferguson's successor) he has a pretty impressive CV.

I honestly dont think Moyes would take on a Championship Club BB. If we did lose MM, Id like us to try for Lambert. He's got teams promoted on a shoestring, and when in charge of scum at least played attacking football.

.

Other than that, I think Im struggling to think of another manager in this division who is better than McCarthy, (his brand of football aside).

[number 9]

I honestly hope, no expect that the brand of football will see an improvement over the reamining 8 games, if MM plays Feeney & Pringle, and god knows he should the football will be better, it has to be.

If we start playing good football, I'll be the first to shut up!

[Bluemike]

I honestly hope, no expect that the brand of football will see an improvement over the reamining 8 games, if MM plays Feeney & Pringle, and god knows he should the football will be better, it has to be.

If we start playing good football, I'll be the first to shut up!

You don't have to shut up, you have a right to an opinion just the same as everyone does.

[arana peligrosa]

Interesting to see Moyes labeled as a potential candidate if McCarthy were to depart. Word of warning, endured over a decade of his 'services' at Everton and in the end, despite some initial promise, he got on the wrong side of so many supporters his leaving was near inevitable. Manchester United must have been on acid to even consider taking him on after Ferguson and needless to say it didn't work out, but you live and learn.

Point being, if for say, arguments sake, Moyes were ever to come in to Portman Road, we'd be substituting one tentative, defense-minded coach for another. Maybe keep the ball at field level a little more than McCarthy but for actual progression, you'll be in for a disappointment. Put the club back several years and despite one or two finishes of merit we were never in the race to actually win anything.

Come to think of it he and McCarthy could be two of a kind, but be advised it's a scenario you would not ideally wish here.

[number 9]

I honestly hope, no expect that the brand of football will see an improvement over the reamining 8 games, if MM plays Feeney & Pringle, and god knows he should the football will be better, it has to be.

If we start playing good football, I'll be the first to shut up!

You don't have to shut up, you have a right to an opinion just the same as everyone does.

Yeah I know, I just meant I would be somewhat content if we're playing good football.

[jaykay]

he deserves another year.if he manages to get us up,it will have to be automatic promotion.as his record in plays offs is terrible,only one win in 8 games played.plus with
the republic lost 2 playoffs against turkey and belgium.his only success in any play offs was against iran.

[marko69]

Interesting to see Moyes labeled as a potential candidate if McCarthy were to depart. Word of warning, endured over a decade of his 'services' at Everton and in the end, despite some initial promise, he got on the wrong side of so many supporters his leaving was near inevitable. Manchester United must have been on acid to even consider taking him on after Ferguson and needless to say it didn't work out, but you live and learn.

Point being, if for say, arguments sake, Moyes were ever to come in to Portman Road, we'd be substituting one tentative, defense-minded coach for another. Maybe keep the ball at field level a little more than McCarthy but for actual progression, you'll be in for a disappointment. Put the club back several years and despite one or two finishes of merit we were never in the race to actually win anything.

Come to think of it he and McCarthy could be two of a kind, but be advised it's a scenario you would not ideally wish here.

All of that is wind & pish. You need to get off the fkn acid, mate........, although I do believe you "endure" things.

[barmy billy]

Interesting to see Moyes labeled as a potential candidate if McCarthy were to depart. Word of warning, endured over a decade of his 'services' at Everton and in the end, despite some initial promise, he got on the wrong side of so many supporters his leaving was near inevitable. Manchester United must have been on acid to even consider taking him on after Ferguson and needless to say it didn't work out, but you live and learn.

Point being, if for say, arguments sake, Moyes were ever to come in to Portman Road, we'd be substituting one tentative, defense-minded coach for another. Maybe keep the ball at field level a little more than McCarthy but for actual progression, you'll be in for a disappointment. Put the club back several years and despite one or two finishes of merit we were never in the race to actually win anything.

Come to think of it he and McCarthy could be two of a kind, but be advised it's a scenario you would not ideally wish here.

Can't agree with any of that I'm afraid. The Man Utd job was a poisoned chalice for whoever took it on, a la Clough and Leeds. Although not an Everton supporter, I seem to remember them playing a very different game to MM's. Perhaps you are a Liverpool red!

[Bluemike]

There is no way in a million years a manager of Moyes standing would be seen at PR or anywhere in the Championship for that matter.