Will Town resist sell off more of the Crown Jewels in Jan ?

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Will Town resist sell off more of the Crown Jewels in Jan ?

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Re: Will Town resist sell off more of the Crown Jewels in Jan ?

Post by herforder » Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:28 pm

Holding on to our Crown Jewels must be non-negotiable. (Certainly work hard to hold on to mine - which regularly come under threat from she who must be obeyed!) :wink:

Serious head on now - short of a club coming in with very serious loot, it's a no brainier that we must both hold on to, and nurture, our emerging talent. For me, they represent our future - given that we're never going to pay significant fees. And, if the youngsters are given the opportunities to gain experience and develop, then ME will be avoiding (some) of the need to.

Question is, will MM give them those opportunities? If not, and they conclude there's no prospect of getting near the 1st team, then you can understand why remaining here if another club comes knocking may not appeal. Seriously hope that doesn't happen.

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Post by hallamblue » Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:25 pm

Personally I dont think Dozzell is ready for Championship football on a regular basis yet purely on his physical capabilities/ strength. He should be used in frequent cameo roles. Problem is with the team performing as it has done this season, MM is hardly likely to chance a kid coming on, and it's not fair go expect kids to come in a pick up the gauntlet left by poorly performing seniors.

Of course there will be the "right " times when the kids come in, as Kenlock and Emmanuel have demonstrated recently, but I think they are ahead of Dozzell in development anyway.


herforder, hang to those Crown Jewels , you only get one set! :wink:

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Post by herforder » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:03 pm

Hanging on tightly!

Agree with your take - but what any employee doesn't want is to feel that, however good they become or hard they work, the door to progress remains closed. But that's just down to good management - dealing with the 'now', whilst giving those young players with clear quality and potential, a genuine belief that they're part of the manager's longer term plans.

It would be nothing short of criminal if we let Jason D slip away due to sheer mis-management, or neglect.

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Post by Andym » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:17 pm

He could face the difficult choice of not getting a game with a premier club.......or not getting a game at Ipswich. He's probably not ready for regular starts, but a few appearances as sub might not go amiss.
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Post by Bluemike » Thu Nov 03, 2016 5:57 pm

Is this by any chance the same paper that said MM was off to Villa and then Wolves ?

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Post by hallamblue » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:26 pm

don't think so. You take any paper report with a pinch of salt though doncha ya.

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Post by Andym » Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:28 am

“If we’re having to scrap for everything I don’t think those are Dozza’s best qualities. If we start playing well and winning games again that’s a better time to introduce him.”

So says MM. Translation: "We aren't getting results because we can't pass and can't create chances. So we will keep playing the same way until we start winning. It's not the right time to introduce players who can pick out a pass or move into space. "

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Post by Bluemike » Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:30 pm

I actually think MM is spot on with this decision at the momemt, his time will undoubtedly come.

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Post by Andym » Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:53 pm

bluemike wrote:I actually think MM is spot on with this decision at the momemt, his time will undoubtedly come.
I agree, he's not ready to start games yet, although I don't think it's because "we have to scrap for everything." That is just MM's mindset and approach to every game. It is a physical league and he's young and needs to strengthen up a bit. But he would still benefit from the experience of some playing time at this level.

And although I agree Dozzell's time will undoubtedly come, I will be surprised if it is at Ipswich. Without the encouragement of a few 20-minute appearances as a sub, he'll soon start to believe that he'd be better off elsewhere.

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Post by herforder » Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:01 pm

Old football saying, if you're good enough, you're old enough. Depends, of course, who's making the judgement!

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Post by Tangfastic » Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:15 pm

He's probably not ready at the moment. Not sure we're missing out if he's always on the bench.

On the subject of Dozzel , I'm a little pissed off from last year. Dozzell IMO was brought into the side at the end of last season just to sell season tickets.

His debut goal brought hope and optimism for the coming season .... maybe the promise of a new fresh era.

However, Mick has always trusted and wanted Skuse and Douglas in his midfield. Bishop getting a start last week is more than we can hope for, let alone Dozzel. Williams will be ahead in the pecking order as well. Dozzel would probably benefit in his development more from a season long loan away from Portman Road.

I agree with Andy that he would really benefit from those 20 minutes of the bench. Can't see it though. Think Mick would prefer Varney or Best as an impact sub.

He'll no doubt get a game in FA Cup Third Round and a few games at the end of the season( unless we're in a serious relegation battle), but can't see him being a major part of the team this year.

If Mick's going to be in charge long-term.... perhaps it is best to offload for the best possible price. A high price tag now could be a free transfer in a few years time if we can't develop kids. Think Bowditch.

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Re: Will Town resist sell off more of the Crown Jewels in Jan ?

Post by ipswichtownNo1 » Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:07 am

And which crown jewels would that be????? Only bart would be the player anyone would want.

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Post by hallamblue » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:17 pm

Bishop
Webster
Dozzell

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Post by Bluemike » Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:27 pm

I honestly think the aforementioned Bowditch was sh*te, lived off the back of one hat-trick and has gone on to do sod all of note.

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Re: Will Town resist sell off more of the Crown Jewels in Jan ?

Post by ipswichtownNo1 » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:27 pm

hallamblue wrote:Bishop
Webster
Dozzell
Bishop not as good as people think, bit like owen garvin and needs to improve imo.
Webster yes, he is a possibility to be sold but i doubt they would let him go so soon.
Dozzell is again unproven and not really classed as crown jewels yet, potential yes but unless mick is going to play him i guess Dozzell senior would be pushing to get him moved.

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Re: Will Town resist sell off more of the Crown Jewels in Jan ?

Post by hallamblue » Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:28 pm

I think Bishop will have to up his game now that Williams is fit again. If I had to close between the two right now, I'd go for Williams any day. Experience and creativity is an intoxicating mix for our midfield right now.

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