Recruiting the right players.....

Here you can chat about everything and anything related to ITFC and other football issues. This forum also hosts the now Internationally famous TB.com ITFC match previews which contain insightful pre-match thoughts, previous highlights, news links relating to Town, form guides and other bits and pieces. Feel free to discuss meet ups/travel plans in here as well.

Moderators: Charnwood, Bluemike

Post Reply
jeremy rusher
Posts: 897
Joined: Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:08 pm
Location: Lowestoft

Recruiting the right players.....

Post by jeremy rusher » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:14 am

Young players with talent and potential are about McCarthy !!! Maybe the kind of players with energy, pace, hunger and passion to play attacking football for a change..


Fabian Giefer-Schalke to Bristol City
Keshi Anderson-Crystal Palace to Northampton
Joe Riley-Manchester United to Sheffield Utd
Tyler Roberts-West Brom to Shrewsbury
Andre Wright-West Brom to Yeovil
Ian Lawlor-Manchester City to Doncaster Rovers
Joe MacGuire-Liverpool to Fleetwood
Antony Evans- Everton to Morecambe
Gethin Jones-Everton to Barnsley
Callum Connelly-Everton to Wigan (A young centre half who scored two goals on his Wigan debut)

jeremy rusher
Posts: 897
Joined: Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:08 pm
Location: Lowestoft

Re: Recruiting the right players.....

Post by jeremy rusher » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:12 pm

I thought recruiting good young players that are released from premiership clubs would fit into the "5 point plan" that was announced. There is something fundamentally wrong with the choice of players we are bringing to this club right now.

We need young players who have the confidence to run with the ball and more movement off the ball. We need skilful ball players allowed to express themselves and cause other teams problems with attacking football. Are we still going with the defensive and negative strategy that has seen the team camped in our own half ? Why are we not targeting good young hungry players for the future as promised ?

It may be early to predict the next 6 games but I do not feel optimistic after the transfer activity so far.

User avatar
ashfordblue
Posts: 3204
Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2003 7:52 pm
Location: Ashford Kent / was Felixstowe

Re: Recruiting the right players.....

Post by ashfordblue » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:54 pm

:roll: And so say 15000 other fans JR, until the Dino MM & TC go you wont see any changes to the negative footie played, he always will go back to his negative ways, that's why he's been sacked at Sunderland & Wolves, he turns good players into negative ones, quite a rare talent I've been told, most mangers try to get the best out of their players, :shock: not Mick , God forbid if you play well you'll be dropped like a hot potato, my only wish is he's gone sooner rather than later, AMEN

User avatar
marko69
Global Moderator
Posts: 25828
Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:16 am
Location: Somewhere between here and there.

Re: Recruiting the right players.....

Post by marko69 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:09 pm

ashfordblue wrote::roll: And so say 15000 other fans JR, until the Dino MM & TC go you wont see any changes to the negative footie played, he always will go back to his negative ways, that's why he's been sacked at Sunderland & Wolves, he turns good players into negative ones, quite a rare talent I've been told, most mangers try to get the best out of their players, :shock: not Mick , God forbid if you play well you'll be dropped like a hot potato, my only wish is he's gone sooner rather than later, AMEN
And so it came to pass, that Ashford, turned to Religion.

User avatar
ashfordblue
Posts: 3204
Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2003 7:52 pm
Location: Ashford Kent / was Felixstowe

Re: Recruiting the right players.....

Post by ashfordblue » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:23 am

:roll: Marco when someone like me supports the Jags you need a little bit of divine help, trust me :lol: it works

jeremy rusher
Posts: 897
Joined: Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:08 pm
Location: Lowestoft

Re: Recruiting the right players.....

Post by jeremy rusher » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:15 am

Why did the atmosphere at this club became such a mess before Evans and McCarthy woke up to the dilemma ?

It appears McCarthy/Evans have finally got the message and have recruited exciting players with pace. If we had got these players in before the season had started we would possibly be in the play-off position or even in the top 2. Maybe this transfer activity is to promote season ticket renewals but all the same new young talented players are desperately needed.

Lets us hope we recruit similar promising players for the start of next season to build a formidable, competitive squad. We need to sign the kind of players to produce attacking football, those kind of players are out there !! It would be nice to put the previous inconsistent seasons behind us and make a serious challenge to go up and even a cup run. Next season has to be more entertaining.

Firstly, we hope to see the signs for the rest of this season.

User avatar
ashfordblue
Posts: 3204
Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2003 7:52 pm
Location: Ashford Kent / was Felixstowe

Re: Recruiting the right players.....

Post by ashfordblue » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:59 am

I'll tell you what JR all ST holders should hold fire on renewals until the end of season, do not be fooled by these recent signings, if Mick and his team go, then that's a positive move, and if we happen to get someone like Gary Rowlett in, then I would say renew your ST

User avatar
Bluemike
Global Moderator
Posts: 32292
Joined: Mon May 18, 2009 5:26 pm
Location: Ipswich

Re: Recruiting the right players.....

Post by Bluemike » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:18 pm

I think I'll renew if it's all the same to you.

User avatar
marko69
Global Moderator
Posts: 25828
Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:16 am
Location: Somewhere between here and there.

Re: Recruiting the right players.....

Post by marko69 » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:47 pm

Never understood that phrase......., "if it's all the same to you". It's not the same ---> you are renewing, Ash isn't!

Remember my brother saying to me, "if it's all the same to you, i'll have the mushrooms."
"It's not the same. I f**king hate mushrooms."

User avatar
Bluemike
Global Moderator
Posts: 32292
Joined: Mon May 18, 2009 5:26 pm
Location: Ipswich

Re: Recruiting the right players.....

Post by Bluemike » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:21 am

marko69 wrote:Never understood that phrase......., "if it's all the same to you". It's not the same ---> you are renewing, Ash isn't!

Remember my brother saying to me, "if it's all the same to you, i'll have the mushrooms."
"It's not the same. I f**king hate mushrooms."
I don't understand it either but it sounded good.

User avatar
ashfordblue
Posts: 3204
Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2003 7:52 pm
Location: Ashford Kent / was Felixstowe

Re: Recruiting the right players.....

Post by ashfordblue » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:45 pm

:roll: Well if its all the same to you I still say wait, what's the saying, buy in haste repent at leisure, bloody true here, :shock: unless of course your a masochist and like the equivalent of getting kicked in the bollocks for fun, the owner keeps taking the p*ss with a real lack of investment, Its very easy to say oh we are putting in 6 and 7 figure sums for players, but with no real intention of paying out that amount for quality players, and comes to nothing in the end, same old same old every window, I will say what others have said, save this so called 7 figure sums, pay Mick off and get rid, I've no problem with getting in 3 Danny Rowe's :lol: or the lower and none league players, as they usually are hungry to impress and perform, but for FFS get shod of the sh*t and past it players we have on the books, and the same old tactics Manager, and lets start a new chapter at Ipswich Town FC.

User avatar
Bluemike
Global Moderator
Posts: 32292
Joined: Mon May 18, 2009 5:26 pm
Location: Ipswich

Re: Recruiting the right players.....

Post by Bluemike » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:31 pm

No not a masochist, a proper fan who supports his club through the good times and the bad, I don't support Marcus Evans, I don't support Mick McCarthy, in fact I don't support many of these rank bad players we currently have, I support ITFC the club and everything it stands for with it's proud history and tradition. If you choose to absatin from backing the club because of these individuals that is your right but you seem to have plenty to say still as to what others should do, if you are that anti it why are you even bothering to keep going on about it on places like this when people like ME & MM won't ever see your comments ?

Good luck to you if you choose to wait before commiting to supporting your so called club, I will be supporting them whatever league they are in, whoever is the owner and whoever is the manager, that is my right, I may not agree with some of what is going on but as far as I am concerned that is what supporters do. If I have something in life that I dislike so much or that causes me so much anger I simply walk away from it, I don't play at it, I do it, maybe you should try it.

User avatar
marko69
Global Moderator
Posts: 25828
Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:16 am
Location: Somewhere between here and there.

Re: Recruiting the right players.....

Post by marko69 » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:42 pm

ashfordblue wrote:....., or the lower and non league players, as they usually are hungry to impress and perform, but for FFS get shod of the sh*t and past it players we have on the books
It's cash required for investment in two or three tried and tested players.

Yes there will be some non league players hungry to impress, but for how long? They'll quickly end up needing emptied also.

The new chapter you speak of sounds more like a rebuild. But it only needs to happen if the fans have serious aspirations of making the EPL. It will remain Championship mediocrity (hopefully not lower) in the current set up. A hell of a lot more fans will be needed to do what you are doing before Milne (or whoever) sits up and calls Mevans on the "cell" phone...... "Err Mr Evans, the Season ticket sales are down, and Ipswich Wanderers are building a new 25K all seater stadium. We have a problem!"

User avatar
ashfordblue
Posts: 3204
Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2003 7:52 pm
Location: Ashford Kent / was Felixstowe

Re: Recruiting the right players.....

Post by ashfordblue » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:43 am

bluemike wrote:No not a masochist, a proper fan who supports his club through the good times and the bad, I don't support Marcus Evans, I don't support Mick McCarthy, in fact I don't support many of these rank bad players we currently have, I support ITFC the club and everything it stands for with it's proud history and tradition. If you choose to absatin from backing the club because of these individuals that is your right but you seem to have plenty to say still as to what others should do, if you are that anti it why are you even bothering to keep going on about it on places like this when people like ME & MM won't ever see your comments ?

Good luck to you if you choose to wait before commiting to supporting your so called club, I will be supporting them whatever league they are in, whoever is the owner and whoever is the manager, that is my right, I may not agree with some of what is going on but as far as I am concerned that is what supporters do. If I have something in life that I dislike so much or that causes me so much anger I simply walk away from it, I don't play at it, I do it, maybe you should try it.
BM trust me no one can support Ipswich more than I have over the many years, my company sponsored more games than I care to remember, we've ploughed £1000's into the club I love over many years, have sponsored many Golf matches for Ipswich FC charity days, and I have played golf with quite a few of my Favourite players, the reason I'm up in arms is because I think the fans have been ripped off with paying to see such crap football, and I just feel that the top management need a wakeup call, as its scrape the bottom of the barrel time with MM still in charge, he's the manager, he must take the flack and criticism from the fans, and try and get the team playing with more commitment and the winning mentality attitudes, I will always support my club that I have supported for over 65 years, from the old Divsion 3 South days and onwards, when me and my Dad used to go, and I feel I have every right to expect more from top to bottom of the club.

User avatar
Bluemike
Global Moderator
Posts: 32292
Joined: Mon May 18, 2009 5:26 pm
Location: Ipswich

Re: Recruiting the right players.....

Post by Bluemike » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:55 pm

It's very commendable Ash, supporting your club all those years and your company investing in it too, however I stiull think it is wrong to boycott the club when the obviously need your support the most. Everyone has a right to do what they think is best, i happen to think it is not and never will be the right thing to do to boycott games when things are tough. I take my hat off to those companies that continue to back the club now as opposed to when things are rosy.

jeremy rusher
Posts: 897
Joined: Wed Aug 06, 2008 11:08 pm
Location: Lowestoft

Re: Recruiting the right players.....

Post by jeremy rusher » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:42 am

bluemike wrote:It's very commendable Ash, supporting your club all those years and your company investing in it too, however I stiull think it is wrong to boycott the club when the obviously need your support the most. Everyone has a right to do what they think is best, i happen to think it is not and never will be the right thing to do to boycott games when things are tough. I take my hat off to those companies that continue to back the club now as opposed to when things are rosy.

Ipswich 0 Derby 3
Bout time Evans gets rid of the players losing this club its supporters
Bout time Evans woke up.
Bout time Evans takes interest in the people of this town and its club supporters.
Bout time McCarthy gets rid of the repetitive poor excuses
Bout time Evans employed a competent manager to sort this mess out.
Bout time serious funds are given to a competent manager
Bout time the club addressed the masses and stop fobbing them off with silly 5 point plans
Bout time you stop fobbing off supporters with the cheapest option when it comes to player recruitment
Bout time Evans explains where this club is really going under his leadership
Bout time I went to bed.
Last edited by jeremy rusher on Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.

hallamblue
Posts: 33296
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2004 3:30 pm
Location: Ipswich Town F.C.

Re: Recruiting the right players.....

Post by hallamblue » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:15 pm

But time Evans sold up a fecked off,

cos he ain't backing this manager or likely to back any future manager once Mick leaves in the summer.

User avatar
Dubai Blue
Posts: 5081
Joined: Tue Jun 01, 2004 2:18 pm
Location: Dubai, UAE

Re: Recruiting the right players.....

Post by Dubai Blue » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:59 am

Hallam, I appreciate that this is an emotional response, and I'm not trying to be sarcastic, but take a quick look at the finances of the club and then try to write again that the owner doesn't back the manager.

hallamblue
Posts: 33296
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2004 3:30 pm
Location: Ipswich Town F.C.

Re: Recruiting the right players.....

Post by hallamblue » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:22 am

DB, merely servcing the annual loss of £6m by Evans , does not (IMO) constitute "backing " his manager to any meaningful level.

IMO Evans clearly has lost interest in his "toy" and needs to sell up so we can all move on.

We , the fans are being taken for mugs by this owner, and have been for half the decade he has owned the Club. The debt in that time has almost doubled despiye the rationalization of staff both on / off the pitch in term sof numbers and quality.

We now have a large , low quality squad of loanees, who will leave come the summer and the manager will leave. Evenas will recruit a less abled manager , and back him to the same minimal level....and so the cycle goes on.

Currently we have a squad that is now totally devoid of any confidence, feel good factor, understanding of how best to play the game, and many palyers simply treading water until the end of the seaosn. They will walk away in the summer to get new contracts elsewhere, and ITFC will quite likely be in League One.

All very depressing and there isnt a thing the loyal fans can do other than vote with their feet also .

#EvansOUT

Post Reply