Mccarthy rumours

[Andym]

There is a rumour that ME was at the game yesterday, and left 10 minutes early to set up a meeting with MM after the game. Also a tweet appeared from Kenlock Jyst after midnight thanking MM for all he he done and wishing him well. ..The tweet disappeared soon afterwards. Anyone else heard anything?

[Bluemike]

Only heard that MM & ME did not even talk after yesterdays game, by all accounts MM left the ground alone but this is probably due to the fact that he has connections in Barnsley where I believe he still has a home ?

To be honest we were hearing loads of rumours on the way home from the game yesterday and I believe them all to be nonsense, hopefully not but I bet it is a load of old bull. After all on a day we bring 2 new players in the manager is gone ? Nah not for me.

Kenlock probably read all the crap and jumped in quick with his Tweet then removed it when he realised it was crap or was told as much from someone else. I hope I am wrong but I believe he will be here a while longer yet.

Can't remember who it was cus I heard so much drivel yesterday but somebody told me on the way up to Huddersfield that a bookie had actually told someone they had received a raft of bets on MM going IF we lost the next Three games, Huddersfield, Preston & Derby. Again I take it all with a pinch of salt.

[Tangfastic]

Nope. Thought Mick said afterwards that he'd never met ME yesterday as he had media commitments post game.

Drunken midnight tweet? Maybe someone dreamt it? Maybe Kenlock's got a transfer away? Or maybe Mick has got sacked in the evening?

[hallamblue]

.....he's reportedly at Anfield today, watch the U23s in action.

Sacking rumours clearly all a load of crap.

[herforder]

Wishful drinking! Although the ship may be slowly sinking, don't think ME has any intention of flinging MM out of the lifeboat any time soon. The risks and cost - as he will see it - are just too great.

[arana peligrosa]

Someone was fired from a championship club not too long ago and the money it entailed was ridiculous. Possibly Pardew at Crystal Palace. The way we go about our spending and taking on board the debt the club carries it would seem unlikely that McCarthy's contract would be terminated so the individual could pick up a considerable paycheck.

Unless I see some tangible evidence that the manager's departure is imminent,will not subscribe to any rumor from any source. Best guess people with too much time on their hands orchestrating some fancy story that is devoid of any real substance.

[jeremy rusher]

.....he's reportedly at Anfield today, watch the U23s in action.
Sacking rumours clearly all a load of crap.

By all accounts the U-23,s were not that much "in action" as you suggest. They were beaten quite comfortably and the score could of been 6-0.

[hallamblue]

steep learning curve or maybe young U23s, ? dunno

[Tangfastic]

.....he's reportedly at Anfield today, watch the U23s in action.
Sacking rumours clearly all a load of crap.

By all accounts the U-23,s were not that much "in action" as you suggest. They were beaten quite comfortably and the score could of been 6-0.

If he's at Anfield .... he could be tying up a new signing, since the game was at Tranmeres ground. Get in there, Mick!!

Maybe he managed to get across from Anfield to see the rest of the game. Only 0-3 ... so that's kind of acceptable.

[Bluemike]

See how easy rumours start LOL.

[Tangfastic]

Rumours? I've already ordered my Sturridge ITFC shirt!!!!

[herforder]

He's telling Jurgen Klopp just how effective the Skuglas duo is; and how they should form the midfield creative engine of the team when he takes over next week!

[Charnwood]

If the young uns only lost 3-0 to Liverpools U23's they did exceptionally well. At this level Liverpool are one of the top teams in the country behind only Everton and Manchester City.

[jeremy rusher]

If the young uns only lost 3-0 to Liverpools U23's they did exceptionally well. At this level Liverpool are one of the top teams in the country behind only Everton and Manchester City.

.....and there are a wealth of good young players at these clubs we should be targeting. We are missing a trick there. Even Westham bought an Everton U-23 player .

[Charnwood]

If the young uns only lost 3-0 to Liverpools U23's they did exceptionally well. At this level Liverpool are one of the top teams in the country behind only Everton and Manchester City.

.....and there are a wealth of good young players at these clubs we should be targeting. We are missing a trick there. Even Westham bought an Everton U-23 player .

I guess at that age most still have aspirations to play in the Premier League. The other old chestnut is not wanting to live in an outpost such as Ipswich, many prefer the City life or whatever they're used to and often end up signing for clubs not far from their current location. I noticed your list the other day which showed a few young Liverpool based players all moving to clubs still in the North West e.g., Fleetwood, Morecombe & Wigan. I spent a lifetime in Retail Banking and it was always difficult to get up and coming talent to move to East Anglia to further their careers, however once there they often chose to stay. I guess this problem still exists to some degree, exacerbated by our current style of play and lack of success.

[herforder]

The young lad, Izzy Brown, who scored 'Udders first goal, is one of a huge number of Chelsea players on loan across U.K. and wider afield - total value around £170M! Neither he nor his club found any difficulty in agreeing to Huddersfield's approach; not a particularly 'fashionable' northern club, but one with an excellent progressive manager, able to develop the lad's potential. For younger, hungry, players I don't think location is as big an issue as is the case for older players with families etc. Getting regular, good quality, football is the higher priority.

Interesting that following young Maitland-Niles period with us, there appears to have been no interest from Arsenal in sending us anyone since. Whilst Ryan Fraser's comments regarding the fundamental differences between Eddie Howe's and MM's approach to the game might also partly explain why some clubs might be reluctant to send their youngsters here.

[Charnwood]

Some very good points you make there herforder. After reading your post I looked up the number of Chelsea players out on loan and at a count earlier this season there were 38 of them with 6 playing in the Championship the most successful being Tammy Abraham who is Bristol City's leading scorer with 15 goals from 27 appearances. As you say if hungry youngsters are happy to go to places like Bristol, Huddersfield, Rotherham & Doncaster etc we shouldn't have a problem. To be honest thinking back, I don't ever recall any Chelsea player ever coming to Ipswich on loan although we have had players from Arsenal, Spurs & West Ham although not many. Maybe as you say it has something to do with our style of play or type of management. Certainly some interesting points you make which should prompt further debate.

[number 9]

It doesn't take a genius to figure out why prem managers don't want to send their creative players here, but you'd think they would at least send their more defensive players? If there's anything MM is good at it's defensive tactics, so why don't we get those type of players? And if your answer is we have plenty of defensive options...do we? I mean are they good defensive players? Judging by our goals conceded this season, I'd suggest we need to strengthen our defence...yes I know, again.

[Bluemike]

With all due respect, everyone is talking about why certain clubs are not "sending" their kids to us, it isn't up to them !!! It is up to us to approach them, clearly we haven't for whatever reason.

[number 9]

With all due respect, everyone is talking about why certain clubs are not "sending" their kids to us, it isn't up to them !!! It is up to us to approach them, clearly we haven't for whatever reason.

Well if we can't afford to buy players, and we're not willing to bring in players on loan...how are we going to add to the squad?

[Bluemike]

No I agree, all I am saying is there is no mystery as to why clubs are not sending their kids to us, it doesn't work like that, we actually have to show an interest in taking them.

All I keep hearing and reading is how many Town fans are fed up with always relying on loans and how we should utilise our own kids over someone elses (which I agree with by the way), now when we are seeing some of our kids getting game time I am reading and hearing how we should be looking to bring someone elses kids in. As the Evening Star says tonite, we are at that point now where everything MM and the club do will now be wrong in many peoples eyes, for instance young Dozzell, he started saturday and had a pretty tough time of it, anonymous was the word I used and so have the press, Mick was absolutely right to take him off but to hear some of the moaning you would think we had sold him.

We have no problem whatsoever bringing loans to the club, it is just that MM clearly realises that we may be in for a tough few weeks and that will not be the time to take risks, Kenlock, Emmanuel & Dozzell is quite a lot in terms of blooding youngsters, add to that Bishop when fit and that is a Third of the team. People need to realise that not everything we do is wrong. I was disappointed when I saw Emmanuel was dropped saturday but Jordan Spence was our best player by far and is a more natural wing back than Emmanuel. It is good to have options.

[number 9]

No I agree, all I am saying is there is no mystery as to why clubs are not sending their kids to us, it doesn't work like that, we actually have to show an interest in taking them.

All I keep hearing and reading is how many Town fans are fed up with always relying on loans and how we should utilise our own kids over someone elses (which I agree with by the way), now when we are seeing some of our kids getting game time I am reading and hearing how we should be looking to bring someone elses kids in. As the Evening Star says tonite, we are at that point now where everything MM and the club do will now be wrong in many peoples eyes, for instance young Dozzell, he started saturday and had a pretty tough time of it, anonymous was the word I used and so have the press, Mick was absolutely right to take him off but to hear some of the moaning you would think we had sold him.

We have no problem whatsoever bringing loans to the club, it is just that MM clearly realises that we may be in for a tough few weeks and that will not be the time to take risks, Kenlock, Emmanuel & Dozzell is quite a lot in terms of blooding youngsters, add to that Bishop when fit and that is a Third of the team. People need to realise that not everything we do is wrong. I was disappointed when I saw Emmanuel was dropped saturday but Jordan Spence was our best player by far and is a more natural wing back than Emmanuel. It is good to have options.

Yes, I completely agree with you there. My remarks are aimed at the Berra's, Chambers and Skuglasses in the team. If they can't carry their weight, they need to be benched (which is an old argument). And, if there are better, younger experienced players available on loan, let's have a look. I'm completely fine, and happy with the likes of Emmanuel, Kenlock and Spence getting in the team.