Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Here you can chat about everything and anything related to ITFC and other football issues. This forum also hosts the now Internationally famous TB.com ITFC match previews which contain insightful pre-match thoughts, previous highlights, news links relating to Town, form guides and other bits and pieces. Feel free to discuss meet ups/travel plans in here as well.

Moderators: Charnwood, Bluemike

Post Reply

Candidates for Next Manager

Cowley
15
15%
McClaren
4
4%
Grayson
1
1%
Mowbray
14
14%
Davies
0
No votes
Bilic
7
7%
Curbishly
3
3%
Clarke
6
6%
Burley
8
8%
Warburton
12
12%
Hurst
27
26%
Redknapp
2
2%
Pardew
3
3%
 
Total votes: 102

User avatar
Bluemike
Global Moderator
Posts: 32292
Joined: Mon May 18, 2009 5:26 pm
Location: Ipswich

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by Bluemike » Sun May 06, 2018 4:59 pm

barmy billy wrote:
Bluemike wrote:I agree Charny, the bloke can hardly bloody walk these days let alone manage a club. For months people have craved change and yet want same old same old again. Not for me and it won't happen anyway.
I agree with your comments about not wanting Burley as manager, Mike. Am I being thick though in thinking that one has to be able to walk properly to make a good manager? :roll: That could make ME's interviews very interesting.
Indeed not mate, i was just emphasising how much I don't want him lol and by the time I get up from my garden chair I doubt I will ve walking that great lol, bloody alcohol

Tangfastic
Posts: 4935
Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:52 am

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by Tangfastic » Mon May 07, 2018 2:41 pm

Sherwood now. Apparently already been interviewed. :(

Seeing that ME hinted that the season has to be wrapped up totally (ie play-offs) before a decision is made, then hope this rules Sherwood out as a serious contender.

Hopefully, this is just only for a bit of interview practice :) .

Sherwood comes across as a self-publicising, self-important tool.... big-mouthed disaster waiting to happen.

User avatar
arana peligrosa
Posts: 10875
Joined: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:41 pm

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by arana peligrosa » Mon May 07, 2018 4:03 pm

Lo and behold Roy Keane now being mentioned amid the candidates. No lie, at 25 / 1 with some bet companies although the chances of a return here seems so distant it's hard to even put to word.

Cowley, who was one of the favorites in recent time is far behind at around 33 / 1 odds while Hurst has pushed clear at the front.

I don't want any of the aforementioned names here, is there a date when we can expect disclosure of a new appointment or approximate time, I don't mind waiting a while, it adds some "drama" to not much else going on (within the club) but remain wary regards the way some of these names come to the fore and the wide range of individuals linked. (Many of which remain arguably unsuitable)

User avatar
Charnwood
Global Moderator
Posts: 20807
Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:25 pm
Location: Moraira, Spain.

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by Charnwood » Mon May 07, 2018 9:32 pm

Bluemike wrote:
barmy billy wrote:
Bluemike wrote:I agree Charny, the bloke can hardly bloody walk these days let alone manage a club. For months people have craved change and yet want same old same old again. Not for me and it won't happen anyway.
I agree with your comments about not wanting Burley as manager, Mike. Am I being thick though in thinking that one has to be able to walk properly to make a good manager? :roll: That could make ME's interviews very interesting.
Indeed not mate, i was just emphasising how much I don't want him lol and by the time I get up from my garden chair I doubt I will ve walking that great lol, bloody alcohol

.....exactly that by all accounts was GB’s downfall.

User avatar
derick_ipsw
Posts: 3376
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:59 pm
Location: CHESTER

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by derick_ipsw » Tue May 08, 2018 11:24 am

tangfastic wrote:Sherwood now. Apparently already been interviewed. :(

Seeing that ME hinted that the season has to be wrapped up totally (ie play-offs) before a decision is made, then hope this rules Sherwood out as a serious contender.

Hopefully, this is just only for a bit of interview practice :) .

Sherwood comes across as a self-publicising, self-important tool.... big-mouthed disaster waiting to happen.
TOTALLY AGREE!! We don't want this big headed Pri*k.

User avatar
number 9
Posts: 6747
Joined: Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:35 pm

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by number 9 » Tue May 08, 2018 1:54 pm

Sherwood has connections with Redknapp, Klug and Pleat. I'm not liking the sound of this one. Sherwood seems a bit under qualified in my opinion. However, I can see ME choosing Sherwood before many of the other names mentioned. :astroll:

charlton837
Posts: 1029
Joined: Tue May 20, 2008 11:53 am

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by charlton837 » Tue May 08, 2018 3:55 pm

cant see Sherwood happening to be honest, his track record isn't good and he can be a bit of a fiery character, I think Evans knows that this would not be universally popular with the fans either.

Think hes probably just sounding out loads of people and interviewing quite a few, but I cant honestly see him deciding to give Sherwood the job at the end of the process...

Tangfastic
Posts: 4935
Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:52 am

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by Tangfastic » Tue May 08, 2018 4:09 pm

number 9 wrote:Sherwood has connections with Redknapp, Klug and Pleat. I'm not liking the sound of this one. Sherwood seems a bit under qualified in my opinion. However, I can see ME choosing Sherwood before many of the other names mentioned. :astroll:
I’m not making Klug out to be some holier than thou person, but he seems sensible, humble, introverted and cares a lot for this club. I don’t know Sherwood, but he seems the complete opposite. Just because Klug worked with Sherwood at Spurs..... not sure that means he would give him the thumbs up. I look back at some of my ex-colleagues and by working with them you absolutely know they are grade A tits. On the other hand.. I can see Arry giving Tim not so nice but dim a leg up.

User avatar
number 9
Posts: 6747
Joined: Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:35 pm

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by number 9 » Tue May 08, 2018 4:13 pm

tangfastic wrote:
number 9 wrote:Sherwood has connections with Redknapp, Klug and Pleat. I'm not liking the sound of this one. Sherwood seems a bit under qualified in my opinion. However, I can see ME choosing Sherwood before many of the other names mentioned. :astroll:
I’m not making Klug out to be some holier than thou person, but he seems sensible, humble, introverted and cares a lot for this club. I don’t know Sherwood, but he seems the complete opposite. Just because Klug worked with Sherwood at Spurs..... not sure that means he would give him the thumbs up. I look back at some of my ex-colleagues and by working with them you absolutely know they are grade A tits. On the other hand.. I can see Arry giving Tim not so nice but dim a leg up.
I hope you're right, mate

User avatar
Bluemike
Global Moderator
Posts: 32292
Joined: Mon May 18, 2009 5:26 pm
Location: Ipswich

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by Bluemike » Tue May 08, 2018 4:46 pm

tangfastic wrote:
number 9 wrote:Sherwood has connections with Redknapp, Klug and Pleat. I'm not liking the sound of this one. Sherwood seems a bit under qualified in my opinion. However, I can see ME choosing Sherwood before many of the other names mentioned. :astroll:
I’m not making Klug out to be some holier than thou person, but he seems sensible, humble, introverted and cares a lot for this club. I don’t know Sherwood, but he seems the complete opposite. Just because Klug worked with Sherwood at Spurs..... not sure that means he would give him the thumbs up. I look back at some of my ex-colleagues and by working with them you absolutely know they are grade A tits. On the other hand.. I can see Arry giving Tim not so nice but dim a leg up.
I'm often keen for a grade A tit on the other hand, come to think of it both hands !!

User avatar
Bluemike
Global Moderator
Posts: 32292
Joined: Mon May 18, 2009 5:26 pm
Location: Ipswich

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by Bluemike » Tue May 08, 2018 4:55 pm

Paul Hurst 4/7 with sky bet, that is small odds, fingers crossed

User avatar
Charnwood
Global Moderator
Posts: 20807
Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:25 pm
Location: Moraira, Spain.

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by Charnwood » Tue May 08, 2018 10:41 pm

I must admit I don’t really understand the excitement over the recruitment of a manager with a couple of years experience in the lower divisions of the football league and a few more managing in the National League jointly with his mate. I know i’m out of touch a bit but I don’t quite get it, am I missing something or am I looking at the wrong Paul Hurst ?

User avatar
marko69
Global Moderator
Posts: 25828
Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:16 am
Location: Somewhere between here and there.

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by marko69 » Wed May 09, 2018 8:24 am

Judging by the season they’ve had, Shrewsbury Town and Paul Hurst “should” really be winning the League One Play-offs. It’s going to be a massive test for Hurst these next (potentially) three games. It’ll be a test to see if he can play his part in getting these guys motivated for the occasion. Obviously we all know that players shouldn’t need too much motivation but some do need spoon-fed and some need kicked up the a$$ at times. They’ve chucked it a bit over March/April and they handed promotion to Blackburn really, ......, but hopefully he can inspire them to Play Off victory. Hopefully it’s on TV, I’ll be watching.

Tangfastic
Posts: 4935
Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:52 am

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by Tangfastic » Wed May 09, 2018 12:16 pm

Charnwood wrote:I must admit I don’t really understand the excitement over the recruitment of a manager with a couple of years experience in the lower divisions of the football league and a few more managing in the National League jointly with his mate. I know i’m out of touch a bit but I don’t quite get it, am I missing something or am I looking at the wrong Paul Hurst ?
I guess everyone has a favourite type of manager.

I just think if we get an established older type manager the only ones which would be available would be like the Pardews or the McClarens.... who have kind of disaster and failure and yesterday’s men written all over them. Also, IMO we’ve got rid of a decent established manager in Mick.... we just need to have someone younger with a bit more ambition and not neccasarily telling us every week that we can’t do any better because of our finances. If we’re going to buck the trend, then we need someone who at least can believe we can succeed ... and not be too overly pragmatic.

I just feel we need to try that route of a younger, more ambitious manager ... less baggage to weigh down and hold back the team and someone who can pass on their belief to the players.

Hurst seems to have earnt the right for consideration by taking over a lowly club with no money and taking them to third.

It may be riskier to get a young manager if relegation is the major concern, but midtable mediocrity is a guaranteed slow death.

User avatar
Ricco
Posts: 3513
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:05 pm

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by Ricco » Wed May 09, 2018 12:23 pm

tangfastic wrote:I guess everyone has a favourite type of manager.

I just think if we get an established older type manager the only ones which would be available would be like the Pardews or the McClarens.... who have kind of disaster and failure and yesterday’s men written all over them. Also, IMO we’ve got rid of a decent established manager in Mick.... we just need to have someone younger with a bit more ambition and not neccasarily telling us every week that we can’t do any better because of our finances. If we’re going to buck the trend, then we need someone who at least can believe we can succeed ... and not be too overly pragmatic.

I just feel we need to try that route of a younger, more ambitious manager ... less baggage to weigh down and hold back the team and someone who can pass on their belief to the players.

Hurst seems to have earnt the right for consideration by taking over a lowly club with no money and taking them to third.

It may be riskier to get a young manager if relegation is the major concern, but midtable mediocrity is a guaranteed slow death.
Nail hit thumb head!!

User avatar
Charnwood
Global Moderator
Posts: 20807
Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:25 pm
Location: Moraira, Spain.

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by Charnwood » Wed May 09, 2018 1:36 pm

To be honest every time I feel concerned I just think of Eddie Howe.

User avatar
herforder
Posts: 2764
Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:34 am

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by herforder » Wed May 09, 2018 1:56 pm

Paul Cook now appears out of contention, having signed a new - and presumably improved - contract with Wigan. Pity, because I think he might have been right for us - still relatively young, some decent experience and proven success, good communicator able to unite club and supporters. Fills the gap between ‘young and upcoming’, and one of the older brigade off the managerial merry-go-round.

So with the Cowleys, Mogga, Cook, Gerard(!), Steyn(?) off ME’s potential shortlist, his room for manoeuvre becomes that bit more restricted, and increases the pressure to make the right choice from those who are - realistically - left.

Certainly Hurst must be in the mix.

Tangfastic
Posts: 4935
Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:52 am

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by Tangfastic » Wed May 09, 2018 2:05 pm

herforder wrote:Paul Cook now appears out of contention, having signed a new - and presumably improved - contract with Wigan. Pity, because I think he might have been right for us - still relatively young, some decent experience and proven success, good communicator able to unite club and supporters. Fills the gap between ‘young and upcoming’, and one of the older brigade off the managerial merry-go-round.

So with the Cowleys, Mogga, Cook, Gerard(!), Steyn(?) off ME’s potential shortlist, his room for manoeuvre becomes that bit more restricted, and increases the pressure to make the right choice from those who are - realistically - left.

Certainly Hurst must be in the mix.
It should make it easier to choose if there aren’t many options.... and then focus on the effort trying to prise that person away. I truly get your point, though..... it could be that we’re left with the scraps.

We’re looking at Hurst more closely..... but if he’s available- who knows - there could be 5 other Championship clubs who may want him.... with a better salary and a better budget.

Leeds appointed a manager 3 months ago, so I’m sure it’s time for them to change manager again.

User avatar
herforder
Posts: 2764
Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:34 am

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by herforder » Wed May 09, 2018 3:18 pm

Indeed they did - about four days after he’d signed a new contract with Barnsley! Have to be careful what I say about Leeds since I dislike them intensely!

Wouldn’t surprise me one bit to see MM ending up there: a coming together making great bedfellows!

RRanger
Posts: 155
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:28 am

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by RRanger » Wed May 09, 2018 4:05 pm

ME may be operating on a tight budget so far as the playing staff/transfers are concerned but I suspect if he feels he is getting the right man (Hurst??) as manager he will be very competitive regarding the new manager's salary. I believe MM was on one of the highest salaries in the Championship.

User avatar
Charnwood
Global Moderator
Posts: 20807
Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:25 pm
Location: Moraira, Spain.

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by Charnwood » Wed May 09, 2018 4:38 pm

It all depends on the new managers priority, salary or operating budget or both ?.... a decent operating budget is more likely to improve his chances of success and career prospects.

An older hand like McCarthy was probably more interested in his personal salary and terms of employment as his reputation was already made.

Whereas Arsenal have stated their intention to make an appointment pre World Cup i’ve Not seen or heard anything about our timescales, has anything been said or published locally ?

User avatar
Shed on tour
Posts: 8672
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:21 pm

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by Shed on tour » Wed May 09, 2018 4:44 pm

Charnwood wrote:It all depends on the new managers priority, salary or operating budget or both ?.... a decent operating budget is more likely to improve his chances of success and career prospects.

An older hand like McCarthy was probably more interested in his personal salary and terms of employment as his reputation was already made.

Whereas Arsenal have stated their intention to make an appointment pre World Cup i’ve Not seen or heard anything about our timescales, has anything been said or published locally ?
Think Evans said that the appointment of a new manager should be made around the end of May, beginning of June.

Tangfastic
Posts: 4935
Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:52 am

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by Tangfastic » Wed May 09, 2018 4:45 pm

Charnwood wrote:It all depends on the new managers priority, salary or operating budget or both ?.... a decent operating budget is more likely to improve his chances of success and career prospects.

An older hand like McCarthy was probably more interested in his personal salary and terms of employment as his reputation was already made.

Whereas Arsenal have stated their intention to make an appointment pre World Cup i’ve Not seen or heard anything about our timescales, has anything been said or published locally ?
ME was talking end of May or more likely early June. Guess that is in line with play-off matches being finalised by then.

Tangfastic
Posts: 4935
Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:52 am

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by Tangfastic » Wed May 09, 2018 4:54 pm

Ive just read that QPR have lined up Steve McClaren to replace Ian Holloway. It was the Daily Mail so unsure how solid that news is. Good news .... we can forget about Stevie Mack coming here..... and since Ian Holloway was one of Micks hundreds of mates who uttered the phrase ‘ be careful what you wish for’ to us Town fans, he wouldn’t put his name forward for the Town job here based on his lofty scruples.

User avatar
herforder
Posts: 2764
Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:34 am

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by herforder » Wed May 09, 2018 5:24 pm

tangfastic wrote:Ive just read that QPR have lined up Steve McClaren to replace Ian Holloway. It was the Daily Mail so unsure how solid that news is. Good news .... we can forget about Stevie Mack coming here..... and since Ian Holloway was one of Micks hundreds of mates who uttered the phrase ‘ be careful what you wish for’ to us Town fans, he wouldn’t put his name forward for the Town job here based on his lofty scruples.
Interesting. Recall IH was interested in the job here when Jewell was appointed. Said something to the effect that he’d walk to Ipswich if he thought he’d be appointed. Might be digging out his walking boots and map!

As for timing, interviews apparently taking place now; but process unlikely to be completed until play offs are completed - which should tell us something. What isn’t clear, though, is what ME meant by ‘we’re going to try something different’. Also, apart from the next manager having to work on a similar budget, whilst adhering to his 5 point plan, ME’s other personal/professional criteria remain unclear.

User avatar
Bluemike
Global Moderator
Posts: 32292
Joined: Mon May 18, 2009 5:26 pm
Location: Ipswich

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by Bluemike » Wed May 09, 2018 7:12 pm

Apart from Cook I am over the moon that the rest of those names are now not in the running, didn't want any of them. Let's not forget ME saying on his interview that "we are trying something different" that surely has to dismiss the likes of McLaren, Grayson, Pardew, Burley, etc etc as they are not different in any way, shape or form, it has to be a younger man, maybe even with a director of football or something, failing that a foreign coach, those routes would be different.

Tangfastic
Posts: 4935
Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:52 am

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by Tangfastic » Wed May 09, 2018 8:19 pm

Grayson and Warburton have risen to 8/1 and 10/1 respectively from nowhere.

I wouldn’t put these names out of the picture just yet.

User avatar
herforder
Posts: 2764
Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:34 am

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by herforder » Wed May 09, 2018 8:46 pm

Where do the bookies/media etc get their info from? Do they look across the potential runners and riders and make educated guesses? Or are they fed inside info? If the latter, then from ME’s perspective it would be a subtle way of gauging suppoerters’ reactions to names that get bandied about. For example, he would certainly have got the message regarding Sherwood!

I suppose what goes on has been that way forever. Keeps the bookies in profit, and helps the media attract attention and sales.

User avatar
Ricco
Posts: 3513
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:05 pm

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by Ricco » Wed May 09, 2018 9:55 pm

Bluemike wrote:Let's not forget ME saying on his interview that "we are trying something different"
I'm not reading anything in to that at this point, "trying something different" is something that excites people, hence Brexit and Trump, I think he was just trying to sell season tickets. He wouldn't have had anyone lined up at that point, he may have had some ideas, but when it comes down to it, he'll just pick whoever is in his opinion the best whether it's new, different or vegetable.

User avatar
number 9
Posts: 6747
Joined: Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:35 pm

Re: Next Manager Rumour Thread (Poll Added 2/4/2018)

Post by number 9 » Wed May 09, 2018 10:18 pm

Don't be surprised if it is a foreigner...someone we've never heard of.

Post Reply