Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

[marko69]

If you don't pay good money there is a host of other clubs who will….

That is the problem with football in a nutshell. MILES behind in terms of fair competition.

……. Feeling like a bit of a c**t today, fearing a thread hijacking coming on……. The only sport in the world that doesn’t stop the f**king clock when ball is out of play! ….. they make up the ending. Teams relegated due to goals on 90mins + 14

Anyway…….. everyone looking fwd to the euros? Cannot wait!

But throwing it back on track……. I think you no doubt are well supported in your thinking Shabba re lots of £££££’s required, but can’t help but think the risk is huge. Yes there is reward ——>> finishing mid table forever more and getting SKY money and NOT playing Cheltenham……. But, as Wilf says….. £20M Joe Bloggs and the busted calf after first training session….. makes ye feel

[Dubai Blue]

I'd consider myself to be very good with money and certainly know the value of it in my own person life - I have no issue spending money but like to get max value from it.

Its just my view but I stick by what I've said, we will spend 50-70m this summer and one or two players may end up costing 20m or so.

If you are interested more in football finances then take a look at Kieran Maguire, he is an expert in this area and can maybe better explain things.

Feel free to also do some research on the subject - look at PL wages across the squads etc. It's VERY difficult to buy players cheaply and pay them low wages, its kind of a case of if you want to sit at the table you need to pay the bill. Not saying it's impossible but it makes your chance of success lower if you opt against it.

I think we will try and be careful but there'll end up having to pay some players 50k per week possibly, at least if in the prem, they'll try and have wage cut clauses etc if relegated. If you don't pay good money there is a host of other clubs who will (i.e your direvt competition). Again its simple supply and demand logic.

Agree with all of this and personally I think we will spend as Rossi said, as much as we can whilst staying within FFP rules. Promotion from Champ to Prem is not like promotion from L1 to Champ IMO. It's a much bigger step up. I'm sure KM will stick with his system and will look for the right players to add quality while fitting with that system. I don't watch much Prem football but watched quite a few games towards the end of the season. The level of skills and pace is well above what we had last season. Some players will improve once again and some just won't have it in them. Those that don't will be upgraded and IMO there are some key positions to be filled there that would need 2 or 3 15m players.

Hutchinson improved really fast last season and is young enough and dedicated enough that maybe could improve just as much again this coming season. But is he one of those 2 or 3 15m players that we need to plug holes? I'm not so sure. Would love to see him continue his development with us though.

[Cabanas Blue]

Frank on YouTube ( yes I know ) just said Town double swoop for Sarmento and Rushworth for around 6 and a half million what a bargain that would be absolutely no chance.

[hallamblue]

I know one thing, I wouldn’t want to be in Mark Ashtons shoes this summer

[Blue Wilf]

I'd consider myself to be very good with money and certainly know the value of it in my own person life - I have no issue spending money but like to get max value from it.

Its just my view but I stick by what I've said, we will spend 50-70m this summer and one or two players may end up costing 20m or so.

If you are interested more in football finances then take a look at Kieran Maguire, he is an expert in this area and can maybe better explain things.

Feel free to also do some research on the subject - look at PL wages across the squads etc. It's VERY difficult to buy players cheaply and pay them low wages, its kind of a case of if you want to sit at the table you need to pay the bill. Not saying it's impossible but it makes your chance of success lower if you opt against it.

I think we will try and be careful but there'll end up having to pay some players 50k per week possibly, at least if in the prem, they'll try and have wage cut clauses etc if relegated. If you don't pay good money there is a host of other clubs who will (i.e your direvt competition). Again its simple supply and demand logic.

I am not sure you did say 50-70m but if you dod then I stand corrected. Even if you did, 2 at 20m plus wages of 50k/week does not buy you many players out of that number. Also, if you think spending 20-30 on Hutch is getting value then we will differ there. We don't know and I am happy to be wrong but for me, the Luton model (plus a bit) with KM earning his new contract is more realistic for me.

[ITFC2024]

It’s my understanding Premier League clubs are only allowed two loans, right? Is there an emergency loan stipulation if a player like a goalie gets injured mid-season?

[shabba]

It’s my understanding Premier League clubs are only allowed two loans, right? Is there an emergency loan stipulation if a player like a goalie gets injured mid-season?

I believe its 2 domestic loans, you can have more from abroad but only 5 loans in the matchday squad.

You can also only sign upto 6 u21 foriegn players.

[shabba]

One thing that may mean we spend more this season is the fact we might be looking more at the domestic market, as I'd suspect our recruitment team is not fully developed in terms of having a more global reach just yet.

There can be more value in europe but alot of premier league teamd will have more established global scouting networks, it takes alot of time to really build and develop that, i.e where your tracking players for years from a young age.

Random but I heard Tammy Abraham might be up for sale, would not be cheap and likely he will have interest from clubs above ipswich, plus high wages. Could be a good player for someone.

[ITFC2024]

It’s my understanding Premier League clubs are only allowed two loans, right? Is there an emergency loan stipulation if a player like a goalie gets injured mid-season?

I believe its 2 domestic loans, you can have more from abroad but only 5 loans in the matchday squad.

You can also only sign upto 6 u21 foriegn players.

Ah, interesting that! Maybe a loan from Fenerbahce?

[shabba]

It’s my understanding Premier League clubs are only allowed two loans, right? Is there an emergency loan stipulation if a player like a goalie gets injured mid-season?

I believe its 2 domestic loans, you can have more from abroad but only 5 loans in the matchday squad.

You can also only sign upto 6 u21 foriegn players.

Ah, interesting that! Maybe a loan from Fenerbahce?

Work permits can be an issue but there is something called ESC slots which can be used if needed.

https://www.capitallaw.co.uk/news/back- ... al-talent/

[RRanger]

I just have this feeling that Omari will be playing for us next season unless ,of course ,Maresca seriously sees him as regularly playing at Chelsea. Omari has on more than one occasion said he'd love to come back - he's obviously a bright lad with his head in the right place,likes playing for KM and the club and knows the fans love him. I just can't see him going abroad if he has any choice in the matter (language problems etc)
I'm pretty sure KM will be backed and allowed to spend the maximum he can under the rules.
All the squad will be getting considerably more in wages and bonuses than they received in the Championship and will accept I'm sure that for their own financial well being surviving in the Premiership is crucial and thus if we do manage to get a Nketia for instance ,they will understand that that sort of player will be receiving quite a bit more than most of them.
As far as Omari is concerned ,IF he stays with us either on loan or preferably as our player because he wants to ,then I'd think his salary would be nearer the median of our squad than the much higher level of one of the possible "star"names we may get.
I would certainly like to see a top central defender and/or a right back of similar pedigree added to the squad.Whatever happens it's going to be an exciting pre-season.

[ITFC2024]

Let’s be honest, Omari is not worth the numbers that are being thrown out. He’s physically small, and has no vision for passing. He scored a few clutch goals for us, but he wasn’t even a regular starter. 30-mil! Yeah whatever, if you think that’s a good deal I have some property I’d like to sell to you. Thanks for the memories Hutch, but move on down the road.

[shabba]

Let’s be honest, Omari is not worth the numbers that are being thrown out. He’s physically small, and has no vision for passing. He scored a few clutch goals for us, but he wasn’t even a regular starter. 30-mil! Yeah whatever, if you think that’s a good deal I have some property I’d like to sell to you. Thanks for the memories Hutch, but move on down the road.

You are of course right that he is not a 30m player…..currently.

But if he develops well he could be a 60m player….. so you are buying the potential, the fact he is home grown/English (helps squad registration rules).

I’d not be comfortable with 30m either though. If we could get him for 15m plus some add ons that’ll be good business.

[ITFC2024]

Let’s be honest, Omari is not worth the numbers that are being thrown out. He’s physically small, and has no vision for passing. He scored a few clutch goals for us, but he wasn’t even a regular starter. 30-mil! Yeah whatever, if you think that’s a good deal I have some property I’d like to sell to you. Thanks for the memories Hutch, but move on down the road.

You are of course right that he is not a 30m player…..currently.

But if he develops well he could be a 60m player….. so you are buying the potential, the fact he is home grown/English (helps squad registration rules).

I’d not be comfortable with 30m either though. If we could get him for 15m plus some add ons that’ll be good business.

He’ll never be a 60-mil player. Too small and lacks vision

[shabba]

Let’s be honest, Omari is not worth the numbers that are being thrown out. He’s physically small, and has no vision for passing. He scored a few clutch goals for us, but he wasn’t even a regular starter. 30-mil! Yeah whatever, if you think that’s a good deal I have some property I’d like to sell to you. Thanks for the memories Hutch, but move on down the road.

You are of course right that he is not a 30m player…..currently.

But if he develops well he could be a 60m player….. so you are buying the potential, the fact he is home grown/English (helps squad registration rules).

I’d not be comfortable with 30m either though. If we could get him for 15m plus some add ons that’ll be good business.

He’ll never be a 60-mil player. Too small and lacks vision

I’m sure messi was told he was too small to make it

Given you can’t exactly tackle in todays game I don’t think being small and nimble is a major issue for forward players now. He was really looking good at the end of the season, I’m sure with good coaching he will keep getting better as his attitude seems good.

[ITFC2024]

You are of course right that he is not a 30m player…..currently.

But if he develops well he could be a 60m player….. so you are buying the potential, the fact he is home grown/English (helps squad registration rules).

I’d not be comfortable with 30m either though. If we could get him for 15m plus some add ons that’ll be good business.

He’ll never be a 60-mil player. Too small and lacks vision

I’m sure messi was told he was too small to make it

Given you can’t exactly tackle in todays game I don’t think being small and nimble is a major issue for forward players now. He was really looking good at the end of the season, I’m sure with good coaching he will keep getting better as his attitude seems good.

You’re comparing Hutchinson to Messi, really? Sorry mate, Hutch never will be comparable to Messi. I understand your stance, but Messi is not only exceptional as an all-round player, but his vision is also far above most players. He knows how to control defences and create space. He is an unbelievable player! Hutch isn’t anywhere near him! Now come on Shabba, that’s not a good comparison, is it? (Just giving you a hard time. )

[Charnwood]

I think we have to trust McKenna and Ashtons ability to identify players that fit McKenna’s intended style of play. I suspect our signings will also be players with further potential to improve and increase in value. Omari Hutchinson is a perfect example as when he joined us on loan I’d estimate his value at circa £5m which McKenna’s coaching more than tripled in one season.
As long as our signings aren’t reckless there’s no reason why we should lose lots of money. Our main objective has to be to survive next season without getting relegated and I can’t see that being achieved without a few significant signings to strengthen last years squad which has already been weakened by the return of loanee’s back to their parent clubs.
With promotion said to be worth £130m, why would anyone not expect to invest at least half this sum on strengthening the team ?
As for following the Luton spending model, I just don’t think that will be enough. Firstly Luton had 3 seasons in the Championship to strengthen their League 1 squad compared with our one which leaves us promoted with primarily improved League 1 players. Secondly, Luton had to spend more than £10m on essential ground improvements to comply with EPL minimum standards, I think our necessary spend is closer to £1m. Finally our gate revenue with regular attendances of close to 30k will be significantly more than Luton’s income from their average crowd of less than 12k.
Of course all commercial revenues will be scaled accordingly and the same applies to Bournemouth’s revenue generation which is what FFP spending rules relate to. Eg Total Incone Generation.
In fact our fan base will probably allow us to generate more income than any of Luton Town, Burnley, Fulham or Bournemouth and more on a par with Nottingham Forest.

[ITFC2024]

You’ve been holding that all in, have ya?

You make some very good points.

[marko69]

He’ll never be a 60-mil player. Too small and lacks vision

I’m sure messi was told he was too small to make it

Given you can’t exactly tackle in todays game I don’t think being small and nimble is a major issue for forward players now. He was really looking good at the end of the season, I’m sure with good coaching he will keep getting better as his attitude seems good.

You’re comparing Hutchinson to Messi, really? Sorry mate, Hutch is and never will be ever comparable to Messi. I understand your stance, but have you ever played football? Messi is not only exceptional as an all round player, his vision is far above most players. He knows how to control defences and create space. He is an unbelievable player! Hutch isn’t anywhere near him! Now come on Shabba, that’s not a good comparison is it?

You brought up "stature", IT24. ...., Shabba is letting you know that Messiah Messi is SMALLER, yet world class.
It's an absolutely fantastic comparison to the question of "stature"....., which you initiated.

[K L Blue]

https://sportmoves.co.uk/?p=32323&fbcli ... vCKKdOXHLd

Anyone else seen this?
probably BS but £45 million for a 19 year old, I'm thinking click bait

KL BLUE ?? Great to see you post, buddy. Not seen your name for AGES!! Hope you and the "Jambo Family" are doing well.

Hey Marko How you doing? The Jambo's side ain't doing well mate, I lost my cousin last weekend. it was a bolt out of the blue.
As for posting, well it's been quite sometime, but have been able to get to a few matches this season, the Southampton one was one that'll not be forgotten, especially as I was with my son and grandson that day. pure magic at the end.

[marko69]

https://sportmoves.co.uk/?p=32323&fbcli ... vCKKdOXHLd

Anyone else seen this?
probably BS but £45 million for a 19 year old, I'm thinking click bait

KL BLUE ?? Great to see you post, buddy. Not seen your name for AGES!! Hope you and the "Jambo Family" are doing well.

Hey Marko How you doing? The Jambo's side ain't doing well mate, I lost my cousin last weekend. it was a bolt out of the blue.
As for posting, well it's been quite sometime, but have been able to get to a few matches this season, the Southampton one was one that'll not be forgotten, especially as I was with my son and grandson that day. pure magic at the end.

Aw no, sorry to hear that KL. Hope time is the healer for the family after that. Thoughts with you all.

Happier news getting to have that bounce with your son AND grandson. Must've been an awesome day out. Great that you're all going to see your beloved ITFC back in the BIG TIME next season. Especially the grandson....., going to assume he was no where near being around the last time Ipswich were in the top flight.

[ITFC2024]

I’m sure messi was told he was too small to make it

Given you can’t exactly tackle in todays game I don’t think being small and nimble is a major issue for forward players now. He was really looking good at the end of the season, I’m sure with good coaching he will keep getting better as his attitude seems good.

You’re comparing Hutchinson to Messi, really? Sorry mate, Hutch is and never will be ever comparable to Messi. I understand your stance, but have you ever played football? Messi is not only exceptional as an all round player, his vision is far above most players. He knows how to control defences and create space. He is an unbelievable player! Hutch isn’t anywhere near him! Now come on Shabba, that’s not a good comparison is it?

You brought up "stature", IT24. ...., Shabba is letting you know that Messiah Messi is SMALLER, yet world class.
It's an absolutely fantastic comparison to the question of "stature"....., which you initiated.

Not sure if you’re for or against me? Seems like you’re cutting through the cake to see where you stand. Where do you stand? Hutchinson or Messi? Just wondering.

[ashfordblue]

Well, we know that Mark Ashton is working his nuts off to bring in the players KM wants to build a squad similar to Brentford that has kept them in good stead and a good middle-to-top premiership club.
We must build from the back and 2 centre backs and wing-backs to cover all eventuality possible injuries and maybe 2 midfielders, then bring in another 2 strikers like Sarmiento, and Hutchinson, also talk of a Chelsea striker RUMANIAN player Braga ?? I think that's his name he's been on loan at Fulham but mostly on the bench but KM likes him so I still believe we will see Omari Back here and it will be for around £30 million

[marko69]

You’re comparing Hutchinson to Messi, really? Sorry mate, Hutch is and never will be ever comparable to Messi. I understand your stance, but have you ever played football? Messi is not only exceptional as an all round player, his vision is far above most players. He knows how to control defences and create space. He is an unbelievable player! Hutch isn’t anywhere near him! Now come on Shabba, that’s not a good comparison is it?

You brought up "stature", IT24. ...., Shabba is letting you know that Messiah Messi is SMALLER, yet world class.
It's an absolutely fantastic comparison to the question of "stature"....., which you initiated.

Not sure if you’re for or against me? Seems like you’re cutting through the cake to see where you stand. Where do you stand? Hutchinson or Messi? Just wondering.

YOU brought up stature. Shabba answered your "stature" issue by using Messi. Was a great comparison.

Ability? You f**king seriously asking me that question?

[ITFC2024]

Not sure I even want Omari for that price! He scored 8 goals right? That’s more than a million per goal!

[ITFC2024]

You brought up "stature", IT24. ...., Shabba is letting you know that Messiah Messi is SMALLER, yet world class.
It's an absolutely fantastic comparison to the question of "stature"....., which you initiated.

Not sure if you’re for or against me? Seems like you’re cutting through the cake to see where you stand. Where do you stand? Hutchinson or Messi? Just wondering.

YOU brought up stature. Shabba answered your "stature" issue by using Messi. Was a great comparison.

Ability? You f**king seriously asking me that question?

Haha great debate! But, size has nothing to do with football knowledge or ‘stature’.

[marko69]

Well, we know that Mark Ashton is working his nuts off to bring in the players KM wants to build a squad similar to Brentford that has kept them in good stead and a good middle-to-top premiership club.
We must build from the back and 2 centre backs and wing-backs to cover all eventuality possible injuries and maybe 2 midfielders, then bring in another 2 strikers like Sarmiento, and Hutchinson, also talk of a Chelsea striker RUMANIAN player Braga ?? I think that's his name he's been on loan at Fulham but mostly on the bench but KM likes him so I still believe we will see Omari Back here and it will be for around £30 million

Headline, Ash.....

"RUM-ANIAN RAISIN' ROOF AT PORTMAN ROAD"

[marko69]

Not sure if you’re for or against me? Seems like you’re cutting through the cake to see where you stand. Where do you stand? Hutchinson or Messi? Just wondering.

YOU brought up stature. Shabba answered your "stature" issue by using Messi. Was a great comparison.

Ability? You f**king seriously asking me that question?

Haha great debate! But, size has nothing to do with football knowledge or ‘stature’.

The Oxford English has listed as meaning number 1 for stature......, "Natural height of a person in an upright position" (So, plenty to do with size)

The second meaning is, "Status by achievement"

Let's sum this up......., Omari wins the first stature, Messi win the second stature.

[ITFC2024]

YOU brought up stature. Shabba answered your "stature" issue by using Messi. Was a great comparison.

Ability? You f**king seriously asking me that question?

Haha great debate! But, size has nothing to do with football knowledge or ‘stature’.

The Oxford English has listed as meaning number 1 for stature......, "Natural height of a person in an upright position" (So, plenty to do with size)

The second meaning is, "Status by achievement"

Let's sum this up......., Omari wins the first stature, Messi win the second stature.

So you’re saying Hutch is worth 30-mil, then?

[marko69]

Haha great debate! But, size has nothing to do with football knowledge or ‘stature’.

The Oxford English has listed as meaning number 1 for stature......, "Natural height of a person in an upright position" (So, plenty to do with size)

The second meaning is, "Status by achievement"

Let's sum this up......., Omari wins the first stature, Messi win the second stature.

So you’re saying Hutch is worth 30-mil, then?

I think it's lights out time I think. Going to Berlin in the morning. Looking forward to it, never been to Denmark before.