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Re: NOW FOR PROMOTION

Post by Andym » Tue May 07, 2019 1:35 pm

Bluemike wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 1:32 pm
Glad someone has finally mentioned the move for our second goal, absolute quality football.
It was, started by Skuse's first touch pass. He had his best game since injury.

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Re: NOW FOR PROMOTION

Post by tangfastic » Tue May 07, 2019 3:02 pm

Andym wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 1:18 pm
hallamblue wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 9:00 am
I see the suggested players to keep etc , but I think Lambert will be culling the squad even more than that. I’m sure I heard somewhere a squad size of around 20. Now we still need some defenders and strikers to come in so space has to be made for these newbies. So some players suggested to keep , I can see being released. We need fresh blood in to freshen squad up, and the strikers we have had haven’t been up to the task. No place for sympathy I’m afraid.
I agree. And I think the whole style of play / player mentality needs to be looked at.
On the few occasions I've managed to watch Luton on tv this season, they have achieved success by going at teams. It's not uncommon for them to have had 20 or more shots in a game. Their mentality has been to put the emphasis on attack, and if they concede it doesn't matter because they'll score more than they let in. I think it will let them down next season - as I think Norwich will find it similarly difficult in the prem. Neither side is good enough at the back for their new division.

I was delighted with the performance and the result on Sunday. But watch the highlights and hopefully you'll see what I mean about the style of play / mentality of our team.
Our first goal came about because we had players in the box from a free kick and Downmes got on the end of a loose ball. This only happens for us from set plays. Compare that to Leeds' second goal. It came from open play and they got 5 players in the box. For their first goal, the ball went down the wing and 3 of their players burst into the box.
Look carefully at our second goal. A lovely move. But. Chalobah and Quaner are both involved in the build up. Both of them stop moving the moment they have delivered their final pass. Only Judge makes an effort to get in the box to folow up. This has been opur problem for many years; the midfield don't get up inot the box in support.

So yes, we need to trim the squad. But we need to change atttudes. And i know everyone hates Knudsen and he doesn't want to play for us, but look where the goals came from on Sunday. We need a left back as well as a right back.
Im going to stick up for Kenlock on this one. :) He’s got to improve his defending and awareness, but due to the fact Judge isn’t really a left sided player( only on paper... he goes everywhere), Kenlock doesn’t get much help down the left side. Knudsen had more assistance usually from Sears tracking back, for example.... and still we leaked goals. And that Dozzell second goal was really started from Kenlock, where he twice passed the ball out from defence, whereby Knudsen would have wellied it up to no-one.
I agree we have to change our mentality, but it might mean we have to have to have a bit of patience with some players who are more likely to make mistakes if they’re more positive and take risks.

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Re: NOW FOR PROMOTION

Post by Andym » Tue May 07, 2019 4:33 pm

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Im going to stick up for Kenlock on this one. :) He’s got to improve his defending and awareness, but due to the fact Judge isn’t really a left sided player( only on paper... he goes everywhere), Kenlock doesn’t get much help down the left side. Knudsen had more assistance usually from Sears tracking back, for example.... and still we leaked goals. And that Dozzell second goal was really started from Kenlock, where he twice passed the ball out from defence, whereby Knudsen would have wellied it up to no-one.
I agree we have to change our mentality, but it might mean we have to have to have a bit of patience with some players who are more likely to make mistakes if they’re more positive and take risks.

I agree with a lot of what you say. Overall I thought Kenlock had a decent game. And he will improve hopefully. And he doesn't get much support. But he was at least partly responsible for both goals, and not for the first time. I just think sometimes there's a "He's one of our own" mentality that excuses poor play or substandard players. He (Kenlock) is probably a better passer of the ball and gets forward better than Knudsen. But if we are going to succeed next season, we have to have the midfield getting in the box in support of the striker(s), so I'd orefer a defender who can defend, and I believe Knudsen does that better than Kenlock.

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Re: NOW FOR PROMOTION

Post by derick_ipsw » Tue May 07, 2019 4:38 pm

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Today's the day when the players will be told if they are staying or going. The squad has got to be trimmed we just have to many players. There may well be some shocks.
I thought we might of heard by now who was staying and who was not. :?

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Post by Bluemike » Tue May 07, 2019 7:23 pm

Maybe they've all gone ? :D

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Post by derick_ipsw » Wed May 08, 2019 8:50 am

Bluemike wrote:
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Maybe they've all gone ? :D
Hopefully there will be a announcement today.

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Post by tangfastic » Wed May 08, 2019 10:49 am

There’s usually a ‘transfer rumour’ thread in pre-season.... would it be more suitable to have a ‘squad trimming’ thread?

Can’t help feel it’s going to be a 2 or 3 out... and 1 in sort of situation.

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Post by derick_ipsw » Thu May 09, 2019 6:05 am

https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-new ... -next-week Town are going to announce there retained players list next week.

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Post by tangfastic » Thu May 09, 2019 12:08 pm

I would have thought it would be best to offload players like Ward, Gerken, Adeyemi without a thought.

Playing devils advocate, maybe the changing room atmosphere is healthy and full of decent blokes, but we still got severely f*cked over this season and maybe it was too chummy. Get some new faces in who aren’t either plagued by a doomed relegation season or spent too much time in the physio room. Gerken had the best opportunity at the club to take his chance against Bart and wasn’t up to it. Get rid. Whether they’re Championship quality or not, they need to add something rather than just fit in with Chambers or changing room harmony.

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Post by tangfastic » Thu May 09, 2019 4:36 pm

derick_ipsw wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:33 pm
Who out of the current squad (Not loans)do you think would leave or be sold if we were relegated? For me it would be:

Bart
Knudson
Chambers
Ward
Dozzell
Huws
Adeyemi
Sears.
Congrats to Derrick in the Don Cup.... but could he be looking long-term for the longest running thread?

This started out as the Relegation thread, but Maybe in a years time this thread will have been re-named “ Champions” ... and then “ Double-promotion”. Keep it going.

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Post by derick_ipsw » Thu May 09, 2019 4:50 pm

tangfastic wrote:
Thu May 09, 2019 4:36 pm
derick_ipsw wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:33 pm
Who out of the current squad (Not loans)do you think would leave or be sold if we were relegated? For me it would be:

Bart
Knudson
Chambers
Ward
Dozzell
Huws
Adeyemi
Sears.
Congrats to Derrick in the Don Cup.... but could he be looking long-term for the longest running thread?

This started out as the Relegation thread, but Maybe in a years time this thread will have been re-named “ Champions” ... and then “ Double-promotion”. Keep it going.
Thanks Tang. Started this November 12th 2018 just wish we could of changed it earlier to the staying up thread. :o

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Post by Bluemike » Thu May 09, 2019 6:32 pm

Derick could keep this going f**king years if Chambo hangs around :lol:

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Post by marko69 » Tue May 14, 2019 1:05 pm

Lee O'Neill: "Obviously there is an area for that market, you might be in a situation to look at a free transfer but the player will still demand wages and things like that."

:lol: Really? You don't say, Lee. "Wages and things like that!" :lol:

Might be free transfers but they ain't playing for free.

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Post by tangfastic » Tue May 14, 2019 1:18 pm

It would be a pleasant change if we get players in early as per O’Neill statement. Always think we’re usually a bit sluggish. I guess that depends on Evans’ negotiations..... like f**king around for weeks over Tilt last year which came to nothing.

Conversely, if players get sold - let’s hope it’s early, too.

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Post by marko69 » Tue May 14, 2019 1:27 pm

"Fking around for weeks over Tilt"........ I thought that was a new expression. Ipswich fans waited for Fking weeks over tilt for the season to end! :D

Then remembered there was a player called Tilt.

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Post by derick_ipsw » Tue May 14, 2019 2:44 pm

marko69 wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 1:05 pm
Lee O'Neill: "Obviously there is an area for that market, you might be in a situation to look at a free transfer but the player will still demand wages and things like that."

:lol: Really? You don't say, Lee. "Wages and things like that!" :lol:

Might be free transfers but they ain't playing for free.
Reminds of a old "Not the nine o clock news" sketch when the unions making there demands. My wife's recipe, my 14 year old daughter to be fazed in over the next 2 years, comfy chair taken home at weekends and some money. Brilliant.

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Post by nicscreamer » Tue May 14, 2019 3:01 pm

derick_ipsw wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 2:44 pm
marko69 wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 1:05 pm
Lee O'Neill: "Obviously there is an area for that market, you might be in a situation to look at a free transfer but the player will still demand wages and things like that."

:lol: Really? You don't say, Lee. "Wages and things like that!" :lol:

Might be free transfers but they ain't playing for free.
Reminds of a old "Not the nine o clock news" sketch when the unions making there demands. My wife's recipe, my 14 year old daughter to be fazed in over the next 2 years, comfy chair taken home at weekends and some money. Brilliant.
Awesome sketch!

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Post by derick_ipsw » Wed May 15, 2019 6:02 am

nicscreamer wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 3:01 pm
derick_ipsw wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 2:44 pm
marko69 wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 1:05 pm
Lee O'Neill: "Obviously there is an area for that market, you might be in a situation to look at a free transfer but the player will still demand wages and things like that."

:lol: Really? You don't say, Lee. "Wages and things like that!" :lol:

Might be free transfers but they ain't playing for free.
Reminds of a old "Not the nine o clock news" sketch when the unions making there demands. My wife's recipe, my 14 year old daughter to be fazed in over the next 2 years, comfy chair taken home at weekends and some money. Brilliant.
Awesome sketch!
Cant find it on YouTube anywhere which is strange.

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Post by tangfastic » Wed May 15, 2019 4:40 pm

.... and for Derick and his thread.

https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-new ... completion

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Post by tangfastic » Fri May 17, 2019 8:47 am

I see that Sunderland are through to the PO final beating Pompey.

Must admit, if Sunderland don’t make it up this year, I can see them being bigger favourites to go up next year. If we are genuinely among the top sides next year - big if - then I’d prefer Sunderland to get promoted as one less big fish. TBH.... there seems to be a trend in the last few seasons of clubs coming down who are competitive at the top end of League 1. And less of clubs spiraling downwards ( Coventry, Pompey, Blackpool).
League 1 and their play-offs has suddenly become a bit more of an interest to me for some reason.

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Post by derick_ipsw » Fri May 17, 2019 11:22 am

tangfastic wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 8:47 am
I see that Sunderland are through to the PO final beating Pompey.

Must admit, if Sunderland don’t make it up this year, I can see them being bigger favourites to go up next year. If we are genuinely among the top sides next year - big if - then I’d prefer Sunderland to get promoted as one less big fish. TBH.... there seems to be a trend in the last few seasons of clubs coming down who are competitive at the top end of League 1. And less of clubs spiraling downwards ( Coventry, Pompey, Blackpool).
League 1 and their play-offs has suddenly become a bit more of an interest to me for some reason.
Totally agree Tang. Much prefer to get Sunderland out of League 1 this season.

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Post by marko69 » Fri May 17, 2019 2:38 pm

A nice visit to the very posh and stylish Fratton Park next season, chaps? :shock:

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Post by Bluemike » Fri May 17, 2019 3:54 pm

Superb, long weekend at Hayling island holiday park where we used to holiday with the kids, can't wait !!!

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Post by Shed on tour » Fri May 17, 2019 8:38 pm

marko69 wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 2:38 pm
A nice visit to the very posh and stylish Fratton Park next season, chaps? :shock:
Don’t know if you still do but you used to have to go down a alley-way to get to the away entrance.
Let’s say on occasions it could get quite lively.

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Post by derick_ipsw » Mon May 20, 2019 11:05 am

https://www.itfc.co.uk/news/2019/may/to ... ined-list/ Gerken to Leave Town along with Ward, Knudsen,Dawkins, Adeyemi and Spence. James Collins has been released to.

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Post by derick_ipsw » Mon May 20, 2019 11:14 am

derick_ipsw wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:05 am
https://www.itfc.co.uk/news/2019/may/to ... ined-list/ Gerken to Leave Town along with Ward, Knudsen,Dawkins, Adeyemi and Spence. James Collins has been released to.
Very pleased with that.

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Post by tangfastic » Mon May 20, 2019 11:17 am

Makes sense.

Goodbye & Good luck, gents, just dont go and become too much of a success elsewhere like Didsy and embarrass us.

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Post by tangfastic » Mon May 20, 2019 11:19 am

derick_ipsw wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:14 am
derick_ipsw wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:05 am
https://www.itfc.co.uk/news/2019/may/to ... ined-list/ Gerken to Leave Town along with Ward, Knudsen,Dawkins, Adeyemi and Spence. James Collins has been released to.
Very pleased with that.
You’re having conversations with yourself, Derrick. :)

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