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Re: Transfer Rumours - New Signings for Towns Premier League Squad 2024/25

Post by Ricco » Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:57 pm

hallamblue wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:34 pm
Andre Dozzell joins Pompey having been released by QPR ...... never really happened fior him did it.
If he can make a career for himself in the Championship, that can't be a bad thing?

It's a brutal sport, I wonder how many 35 year old ex pros wish they could be 18 again and do it all again with what they know now. Not saying he's gotten it wrong or his attitude is to blame, more a thought I've pondered, probably from seeing the literal and very fine line between career success/failure at the Olympics. At least footballers have a 500 odd game career to prove themselves, not a single race or event every 4 years on a pitiful wage.

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Post by hallamblue » Mon Aug 05, 2024 8:48 pm

I think AD was / is a gifted player but like Dyer, his body isn't up to the rigours of pro footie at the higher level. I do t think gecevervrdcivered ftom the ACL injury. He was flying in his profession when he sustained that. But he was just about to make that step up to senior football then the injury happened.

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Post by Mariner67 » Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:05 pm

hallamblue wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:16 pm
Rumours starting to pop up that Szmodics deal is done
This is dragging on for far to long, Blackburn are a joke of a club to deal with,he wants prem football, no way is he worth 20 million, think we need another striker, Delap looks like a bit heavy handed to me, we need a good striker ASAP with all the injuries we have.

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Post by Cabanas Blue » Mon Aug 05, 2024 11:25 pm

Alan Nixon reporting that we offered £800k for de Lange, Go Ahead wants £1.25m for him.

He also reports that Rovers and Ipswich are £500k apart on the guaranteed fee for Sammie Szmodics. If that's the case, I'm sure the deal will get done this week.

De lange is a keeper so if that's right it looks like Walton is on the way out.

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Post by hallamblue » Tue Aug 06, 2024 11:06 am

Anyone else getting slightly uneasy / peed off that we get linked with a player, but then absolutely nothing happens?!

Forget the sh*t fest surrounding SS. What about the Birmingham midfielder, the foreign striker, Sunderland’s Clarke? Nothing, absolutely nothing. It’s been 2-3 weeks now. We take so bloody long.

It’s now just 11 DAYS to our game with LFC. Our squad is incomplete and what we do have is weak.

There’s so little news re Town that the local rag and twtd is now reporting on ex Town players moves. It’s a joke….

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Post by shabba » Tue Aug 06, 2024 11:30 am

hallamblue wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 11:06 am
Anyone else getting slightly uneasy / peed off that we get linked with a player, but then absolutely nothing happens?!

Forget the sh*t fest surrounding SS. What about the Birmingham midfielder, the foreign striker, Sunderland’s Clarke? Nothing, absolutely nothing. It’s been 2-3 weeks now. We take so bloody long.

It’s now just 11 DAYS to our game with LFC. Our squad is incomplete and what we do have is weak.

There’s so little news re Town that the local rag and twtd is now reporting on ex Town players moves. It’s a joke….
Well no - as a link could be rubbish, so therefore I don't expect any sort of rumout to then transition to official news/or even more unofficial news.
If you read the BBC transfer gossip section probably only 20% of those come to anything.

I think all of us are just desperate for signings, and Im sure the club are doing their best, but its best we try and stay calm and get the right signings for the right price rather than panic buys. Im OK, we still have weeks to go before the window closes and we just about have enough in house to start the first 3 games.

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Post by hallamblue » Tue Aug 06, 2024 11:38 am

We’ve been trying to sign players before the Championship play offs were even played, so hardly “ panic buying” is it.

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Post by The Odious Mr Rossi » Tue Aug 06, 2024 12:12 pm

hallamblue wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 11:38 am
We’ve been trying to sign players before the Championship play offs were even played, so hardly “ panic buying” is it.
Maybe the football world observed the Gallagher debacle, and decided that we are a club that can be pissed about in deals inasmuch as they can keep us hanging on and hope that a better offer comes in? This has probably been strengthened by the ongoing Sammy Smegma debacle.

MA needs to learn quickly at this level and grow some balls - make a decent offer and if nothing materialises after a day walk away and go elsewhere.

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Post by Bluemike » Tue Aug 06, 2024 12:21 pm

I also hope it's a case of ITFC not being held to ransom and taken for mugs with Ashton standing firm on what we are able to spend with FFP rules in his thinking, that for me would be a perfectly acceptable explanation which I agree with.

That said I am a bit uneasy after KM stated we need a "lot more signings" it's that which kinda makes you concerned, add to that unexpected injuries to Two important players and the situation suddenly looks even more precarious.

Personally I reckon a couple will arrive before the Liverpool game, followed by a couple on season long loans and maybe one or two more by the close of the window on 31st.

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Post by Ricco » Tue Aug 06, 2024 12:23 pm

rossi wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 12:12 pm
Maybe the football world observed the Gallagher debacle, supplemented by the current Sammy Smegma debacle, and decided that we are a club that can be pissed about in deals inasmuch as they can keep us hanging on and hope that a better offer comes in?
I'd find that hard to believe rossi, I can't imagine Ashton and by extension, his team, are the type to suffer fools gladly. It would be idiotic if they didn't have many irons in the fire in case a deal doesn't materialise, or even as a bargaining chip in that deal. If they haven't backed out of the Szmodics deal, it's because they really want the player and expected it to be a drawn out process.

What does surprise me, is that we haven't recruited from Europe yet. We have been linked with a few, and there has to be plenty of talent up for grabs, so why is it not happening. We will only be interested in the best players at clubs in the Championship, so naturally those teams will be desperate to hold on to them, and other Premiership sides won't want to sell to a competitor, so they will also whack on a premium. Therefore Europe or even further afield has to present better value, I can only think that the club sees it as imperative that players coming in to the club are perhaps very fluent in English and are used to/proven in the English game and can therefore hit the ground running. Who knows.

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Post by shabba » Tue Aug 06, 2024 12:43 pm

IMO the problem is we are in a challenging pool, i.e a Prem club but with 'better' prem clubs as compeition alongside us, making it harder to convice players to join us over an established Premier league team

EU players are tricky as we likely don't have an established scouting network, and would need to put things in place to allow these players to settle into the country, its riskier as you need to settle players, families, help with alot of admin stuff etc - takes time and means more time for them to show their best.

Additioanll if we look at existing prem players we aren't in a position to attact them due to being newly promoted but also not being able to match their very high existing prem wages.

IMO its why its SO challenging and why we dont have an endless list of targers we can just move on to everytime someone messes us around.

I suspect transfers this summer are a case of easier said than done!

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Post by Ricco » Tue Aug 06, 2024 1:00 pm

I think there must be a bucket load of quality players that aren't attractive to established Premier teams right now, but who would love the opportunity to put themselves in the shop window by performing at Ipswich. It's only something like a third of the players in the division are English, the other two thirds had to have gotten over here somehow. If Town haven't got a good enough scouting network covering more than just Britain, then that's a huge oversight, even if they didn't seem promotion coming so soon. Maybe I'm wrong, probably I'm wrong...

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Post by Bluemike » Tue Aug 06, 2024 1:13 pm

Ipswich Town and Brentford have included Napoli’s Jens Cajuste in their list, according to Tuesday’s edition of Corriere dello Sport.


The midfielder joined the Serie A side from Stade de Reims in August 2023, and was mainly used as a substitute as he made 11 league starts last season.

Cajuste’s contract lasts until 2028, but the report says he has no future at the Naples club under Antonio Conte.

It’s claimed the 24-year-old is ‘on his way out’ of Napoli, and Ipswich Town and Brentford can offer him an exit route.

Corriere add the Premier League duo have already asked about Cajuste, likely to sign him on a loan deal this summer. It’s not specified whether the Kieran McKenna’s side or the Bees contacted Napoli, the player’s camp or both.
As well as Ipswich Town and Brentford, the newspaper mentions Leicester’s interest. It’s not made clear whether the Foxes wanted him in the past or in this window.

Galatasaray have shown interest, but the Sweden international has turned them down. He hopes to make a switch to the Premier League, where Ipswich Town and Brentford are interested parties.

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Post by hallamblue » Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:09 pm

rossi wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 12:12 pm
hallamblue wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 11:38 am
We’ve been trying to sign players before the Championship play offs were even played, so hardly “ panic buying” is it.
Maybe the football world observed the Gallagher debacle, and decided that we are a club that can be pissed about in deals inasmuch as they can keep us hanging on and hope that a better offer comes in? This has probably been strengthened by the ongoing Sammy Smegma debacle.

MA needs to learn quickly at this level and grow some balls - make a decent offer and if nothing materialises after a day walk away and go elsewhere.
I’d add that Hull City winger to that list of protracted dealings. Biggest load of crap going. We should have walked away from thst much earlier than we did. In fact, I don’t think we did walk away gif we. The player just negotiated a deal with Villa and “screw us”.

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Post by valleyroad » Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:12 pm

shabba wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 12:43 pm
IMO the problem is we are in a challenging pool, i.e a Prem club but with 'better' prem clubs as compeition alongside us, making it harder to convice players to join us over an established Premier league team

EU players are tricky as we likely don't have an established scouting network, and would need to put things in place to allow these players to settle into the country, its riskier as you need to settle players, families, help with alot of admin stuff etc - takes time and means more time for them to show their best.

Additioanll if we look at existing prem players we aren't in a position to attact them due to being newly promoted but also not being able to match their very high existing prem wages.

IMO its why its SO challenging and why we dont have an endless list of targers we can just move on to everytime someone messes us around.

I suspect transfers this summer are a case of easier said than done!
Managed to get Ben Johnson in so its possible and i'm sure there are others of a similar ilk out there. Doesn't need to be Premiership, can be European player who has played at top level.
At the moment for me as i've said before the signing are players in the main who are untried at Premiership level. Would like to see at least 3 who are tested at that level.

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Post by hallamblue » Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:15 pm

We might loan that caliber of player, but I don’t think we could afford to buy that experience just yet. We’re trying to rebuild the current squad ( for the future) rather than this season I think. Players with PL experience will cost a whole lot more.

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Post by Charnwood » Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:39 pm

Ricco wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 12:23 pm
rossi wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 12:12 pm
Maybe the football world observed the Gallagher debacle, supplemented by the current Sammy Smegma debacle, and decided that we are a club that can be pissed about in deals inasmuch as they can keep us hanging on and hope that a better offer comes in?
I'd find that hard to believe rossi, I can't imagine Ashton and by extension, his team, are the type to suffer fools gladly. It would be idiotic if they didn't have many irons in the fire in case a deal doesn't materialise, or even as a bargaining chip in that deal. If they haven't backed out of the Szmodics deal, it's because they really want the player and expected it to be a drawn out process.

What does surprise me, is that we haven't recruited from Europe yet. We have been linked with a few, and there has to be plenty of talent up for grabs, so why is it not happening. We will only be interested in the best players at clubs in the Championship, so naturally those teams will be desperate to hold on to them, and other Premiership sides won't want to sell to a competitor, so they will also whack on a premium. Therefore Europe or even further afield has to present better value, I can only think that the club sees it as imperative that players coming in to the club are perhaps very fluent in English and are used to/proven in the English game and can therefore hit the ground running. Who knows.

Given we were in League One only two seasons ago I suspect our scouts / recruitment network across Europe is pretty non existent or at best thin on the ground. It’s probably as simple as that.

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Post by valleyroad » Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:51 pm

hallamblue wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:15 pm
We might loan that caliber of player, but I don’t think we could afford to buy that experience just yet. We’re trying to rebuild the current squad ( for the future) rather than this season I think. Players with PL experience will cost a whole lot more.
I get that, but Ben Johnson was found ?
I'd be very surprised if Ashton and McKenna don't know the European market well also.
There are still a number of weeks to go so it will all change fairly rapid as we get close to the window shutting.
There may be an element of building for the future but the ambition will definitely be to stay up and it should be.

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Post by Charnwood » Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:52 pm

I don’t think we need panic yet as we’ve still almost 4 weeks of transfer window left to trade in. Given our opening two games aren’t exactly must win fixtures, leaving it late to close the right deals might not be too costly. In truth our budget will probably only stretch to two more permanent players coming in and maybe two on loan who most likely have already been lined up.

I know it’s frustrating us all but the cost of these deals is massive making due diligence checks more important than ever before in the history of our football club.

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Post by Denny61 » Tue Aug 06, 2024 2:55 pm

I think deals will be done a lot lot closer to season kick off and even a few weeks in to it..whether its sales or loans to us...a lot of clubs won't know for a while yet as they still like us negotiating on players or sniffing around. So in affect won't let players be released till others are more or less in the door....

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Post by shabba » Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:22 pm

Ben Johnson was a rare free agent with Prem experiecne, and we did well to get him.
There simply aren't very many of those at all.

Anyone at a prem club is probably on higher wages than we would want to spend, they are either not wanted for a reason or priced highly. So it makes it VERY hard to get anyone with prem experience.

When brentford first got promoted they had zero prem expericed players in their first season.

I hate saying it but it annoys me when people say 'just get someone with prem experience' - OK then WHO, go and look for people, they really aren't many out there. Its like when someone says 'X should cost X' - yet they cannot find any real world examples.

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Post by valleyroad » Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:47 pm

shabba wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:22 pm
Ben Johnson was a rare free agent with Prem experiecne, and we did well to get him.
There simply aren't very many of those at all.

Anyone at a prem club is probably on higher wages than we would want to spend, they are either not wanted for a reason or priced highly. So it makes it VERY hard to get anyone with prem experience.

When brentford first got promoted they had zero prem expericed players in their first season.

I hate saying it but it annoys me when people say 'just get someone with prem experience' - OK then WHO, go and look for people, they really aren't many out there. Its like when someone says 'X should cost X' - yet they cannot find any real world examples.
I said top league experience i.e Europe or Prem.
These players are there. Just because you and me don't know who they are doesn't mean they aren't there.
I had no idea of Ben Johnson's status and there will be others.

Brentford are a quite unique club , yes try and emulate but you really want to be following your own process.
Unless it changes rapidly over the next few weeks and i think it will then Ipswich are going straight back down.
The current squad as constructed is not near good enough.

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Post by shabba » Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:55 pm

valleyroad wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:47 pm
shabba wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:22 pm
Ben Johnson was a rare free agent with Prem experiecne, and we did well to get him.
There simply aren't very many of those at all.

Anyone at a prem club is probably on higher wages than we would want to spend, they are either not wanted for a reason or priced highly. So it makes it VERY hard to get anyone with prem experience.

When brentford first got promoted they had zero prem expericed players in their first season.

I hate saying it but it annoys me when people say 'just get someone with prem experience' - OK then WHO, go and look for people, they really aren't many out there. Its like when someone says 'X should cost X' - yet they cannot find any real world examples.
I said top league experience i.e Europe or Prem.
These players are there. Just because you and me don't know who they are doesn't mean they aren't there.
I had no idea of Ben Johnson's status and there will be others.

Brentford are a quite unique club , yes try and emulate but you really want to be following your own process.
Unless it changes rapidly over the next few weeks and i think it will then Ipswich are going straight back down.
The current squad as constructed is not near good enough.
I went through all the prem squads ahead of the June 30th release date, there really aren't many options.

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Post by valleyroad » Tue Aug 06, 2024 4:09 pm

shabba wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:55 pm
valleyroad wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:47 pm
shabba wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:22 pm
Ben Johnson was a rare free agent with Prem experiecne, and we did well to get him.
There simply aren't very many of those at all.

Anyone at a prem club is probably on higher wages than we would want to spend, they are either not wanted for a reason or priced highly. So it makes it VERY hard to get anyone with prem experience.

When brentford first got promoted they had zero prem expericed players in their first season.

I hate saying it but it annoys me when people say 'just get someone with prem experience' - OK then WHO, go and look for people, they really aren't many out there. Its like when someone says 'X should cost X' - yet they cannot find any real world examples.
I said top league experience i.e Europe or Prem.
These players are there. Just because you and me don't know who they are doesn't mean they aren't there.
I had no idea of Ben Johnson's status and there will be others.

Brentford are a quite unique club , yes try and emulate but you really want to be following your own process.
Unless it changes rapidly over the next few weeks and i think it will then Ipswich are going straight back down.
The current squad as constructed is not near good enough.
I went through all the prem squads ahead of the June 30th release date, there really aren't many options.
Fair enough i wish i had the time and enthusiasm to do that :)
I think Ipswich overachieved last season with a squad that for me is way short of Premiership level.
The quality recruited so far for me will not be good enough IMO.
It may be that the club is looking long term and may go down to come back up but i doubt it.
Lets see where we are in a few weeks. I'm hoping for a bit more quality once the market starts to move otherwise I can't see Town staying up bar McKenna working another miracle.

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Post by Bluemike » Tue Aug 06, 2024 4:56 pm

Agreed, as it stands now there's zero chance of survival, however 2 quality loans and 3 or 4 more additions changes everything, especially with Hirst & Broadhead regaining fitness, it's weird cus atm we are a long way away and yet in reality we aren't very far off it at all, that's how quickly it would change, fine margins, come on Ashton, work your magic once more.

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Post by hallamblue » Tue Aug 06, 2024 6:25 pm

When do Clubs have to name their 25 man squads?

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Post by shabba » Tue Aug 06, 2024 6:46 pm

hallamblue wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2024 6:25 pm
When do Clubs have to name their 25 man squads?
Day after transfer deadline day

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Post by Bluemike » Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:02 pm

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Tue Aug 06, 2024 6:25 pm
When do Clubs have to name their 25 man squads?
I think all the criteria is explained here mate.

https://www.givemesport.com/premier-lea ... explained/

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Post by ITFC2024 » Tue Aug 06, 2024 9:02 pm

Wasn’t too long ago, fans were setting off fireworks and waving banners at Lambert’s training ground. Yep, I like everyone else wants immediate reinforcements for our post 20 years Premier League debut, but we may have to accept what the gods of football are giving us. It’s been a meteorological rise for ITFC, maybe we should sit back and relax. Remind me I said this if things go on the sour.

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Post by hallamblue » Tue Aug 06, 2024 9:11 pm

Camara leaves Town for Crawley on a 2yr deal…

https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-new ... ns-crawley


Just never happened for him did it.

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